I'm confused. Is he saying his name is Jo and he's a rapist, or is he telling someone named Jo that he's a rapist and there's a comma missing?
Spoiler tag is killing me ...Girl go read wetsand
He did unconsensual stuff to someone unconscious from having consensual sex with him. Calling him a full on rapist is a stretch if you compare what the male endgame did to him but author likes that stuff and it's sexual assault.
At the end it's up to the reader.
Better if you read it and form your own opinion.
Nah it's downright sexual assault he was unconscious yall get on here and lie to save your dadas ahh
Lmao that was an accident.
'author likes that stuff and it's sexual assault.'
That's what I said????
But if the reader normalize what the male endgame did everytime he was with the mc then is fair they normalize what Jo did. Which is pretty fucked up either way. Hypocrites.
Girl you're trying to be morally righteous on a site where we're all reading manga porn illegally. Stfu
Damn like author like fans I guess
Sorry I don't excuse sexual assault no matter which platform it is if that make me morally righteous than I am I guess
Yes and that's how they got that kind of endgame where abuse is normalize. Happy that you get it.
if thats the case then do you also fault tj for everything he did to ian or no?
That’s literally rape?? istg everyone on this website is just so braindead . Rape is non consensual sex so wdym “it’s not even bad” get your morals checked
Please for of the love of... check what assault assault means. Do yourself a favour and get educated.
Yes, it takes many forms. It could be rape or attempted rape. Unwanted touches, threats, unwanted sexual contact without consent.
He did touched him without his consent. It's sexual assault, never saying the contrary. But like I said too, people normalize what the male endgame did so it's fair they normalize what Jo did. Hypocrites.
Sexual assault*
Like really.
Well sorry your grammar in the first post really sucked and I was trying to comprehend what you were even talking about as I haven’t even read Wet Sand. And I do know what sexual assault stands for so you saying I don’t is extremely weird. Like what does “ He did unconsensual stuff to someone unconscious from having consensual sex with him. ”?? This sentence makes zero to no sense so sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say but you stating I’m uneducated in something so severe as Sexual Assault is weird & maybe you should try rereading what you commented instead of getting offended and pressed when someone replies to it.
Sure...
'“ He did unconsensual stuff to someone unconscious from having consensual sex with him. ”
This means that one individual agreed to have sexual relations with another person but at some point the initial person fainted. So what happened when that person was unconscious is considered in legal terms 'sexual assault on a unresponsive body'. But not always equally as rape. Sexual assault takes many forms like I said. And the separation and understanding of that is when the control of the label 'rapist' is in order. That's why, it's a responsable thing to use the terms with the correct name.
But I also said, at the end of the day, it's up to the readers what they want to call it because everyone is free to do whatever.
Also, I do apologize from assuming that you knew what you were talking about and not considering that you could be a random commenter.
Omfg you idiot, reading manga porn is not going to make anyone "normalize" sexual assault. These are works of fiction with unnaturally beautiful men having insanely unrealistic sex, the opposite of anything that mirrors real life. If you are confusing your porn with real life, maybe you need to see a therapist. You sound like someone who can't separate fantasy from reality.
I was talking about the endgame that story got... To explain myself, it normalized the abuse the Mc went through at the hands of the male endgame, disguised as true love and in two chapters, important moments that affected the mc to the point of wanting to die because he couldn't with the emotional manipulation and physical abuse, he didn't beat him but there are other ways to inflict physical damage, of the male endgame were forgiven and forgotten in a time skip... And the mc said he wasn't going back to him. He lied I suppose, such an unreliable character I guess. The male endgame did change but anxiety make him really and it wasn't shown except some bits about decisions about his way of living and the fear he got when the mc wanted to stop with what they have and escape.
I didn't said anything about reality. Or if that would make anyone normalize sexual assault. Only in fiction one could ever dream of going back to the lover (not really) who was the direct cause of... Spoiler I guess, one of your limbs being broken and shattered your dreams of freedom because selfish desires. I know how to distinguish one thing from the other but it's a fact that domestic abuse happens in real life and the victim should never go back to his abuser... But they mostly do go back for different reasons, including fear and survival instinct, and sadly one of them it's because they love their abuser.
And no, like you can't separate an author from their works, you can't really separate fiction from reality. Real life experiences, ideas that comes to us from what we saw, learn, hear, ignore, accept, etc; combined with imagination and inspiration is what makes the line that separate them very fluid. Of course, I'm talking in general terms and not about something concrete before you jump on this too and said that dragons are real then or whatever. The only real thing is facts and how people conduct themselves around them. And the fact is that there are many insensitive people about themes likes this and act like it's the norm that everyone that consume fantasy material stuff should accommodate to their ideas of things. Especially things than involves ethical decision-making, morals and response to that.
It's not about your personal feelings or what you find enjoyable. And seeing a therapist is big deal for many people so maybe you shouldn't undermine it in a talk about yaoi as an attack.
And I will stop because this is not the fandom for this but funny thing... it's about abuse too.
Bye.
This is a mediocre manhwa with some really good aspects. The art is not one of them. I can tell in the sex scenes that for some of them, the artist used images of women as references for Hyun because of how he looks. There's also like a dozen panels of the seme from the back standing dead center, just in different clothes. The story is kind of tropey due to a lack of communication, Hyun has trouble expressing himself because of trauma and the other guy is more stable, but sometimes he punches people, and he did poorly in school but then he was #1 so I guess he's smart? Honestly his character never felt as fully fleshed out, he mostly plays the honest, compassionate bf who always expresses himself.
Also, homophobia sucks. And the way it's handled in this manhwa is definitely not the most satisfying. But it is realistic.
As soon as they came across the bodies, we all knew who had come through.
literally my thought process
This is probably the stupidest BL I've ever read. Imagine a man marrying his bf, and moving in with him to his father's gigantic mansion, but the father-in-law hates him, so he takes over all the duties a typical daughter-in-law would to win him over. It works, but his husband suddenly divorces him and marries a woman none of them have seen before and disappears. All of this happens in like the first 5 chapters.
Somewhere along the way, the man (who the father-in-law makes the heir and director of his company) starts banging the old man. Then the ex comes back into the picture and he starts banging him too. Which makes about as much sense as everything else that happens in this manhwa. Even the ending is just kind of "I guess I'll keep banging these 2 guys." I found myself skimming a lot because most of it was just so incredibly dumb. This is not a manhwa to read for plot.
How the hell is the novel this is based on written by the author of The Rose Garden? Like WTAF?
The “I guess I’ll keep banging these 2 guys” is so real and so accurate LMFAO. great summary, you didn’t miss a thing
It's so fucking funny and I don't think we need to take it seriously
I wonder if "Hikaru" and Yoshiki will merge into one entity. Yoshiki is already "mixed" and not fully human, and even his own family is going to forget him. Maybe they will become one and repair that giant hole.
HELP THEYRE GONNA FUSE LMAOOO
Not even any fucking? (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
let dan's poor hole rest he deserves some affection after the trials and tribulations bro went through
So "Hikaru" was set free by real Hikaru's father, only to forget it didn't have to grant wishes anymore? But it still came down from the mountain? I guess it makes sense that it would respond to wishes if it believed it HAD to, but even against its will?
I took it as Hikaru’s dad freed ’Hikaru’ from the shrine and the previous identity of Nounuki-sama but he wasn’t specific enough to affect the wish-granting. That’s why ‘Hikaru’ was able to roam around and take on a new body but still felt the need to fulfill Hikaru’s dying wish. Like ‘Hikaru’s’ sense of self was gone but the compulsions remained.
Totally agree, there's people getting confused about it but being free doesn't stop it from wanting to grant wishes. Specially when the entity takes things way too literally.