i always see the misogyny coming everytime a female character somehow acts even a tiny little bit antagonistic. and damn do yall prove me right everytime.
noona is just being protective. she and jooin have been friends for so long, she's seen him and been with him at his worst, and she's helped him through that not just emotionally but also financially (she runs their business with him). so to see her depressive best friend get imprisoned because of his fked up family situation that she knows is a huge trauma for him, her reaction is very understandable.
and her treatment to mittens is understandable too. jooin barely opens up, not to mention he's barely kept a solid r/s, so all she knows of their relationship is that he and mittens are somewhat seeing each other. she doesn't know how deep their r/s has become, so to her, of course mittens just looks like someone who complicated the fked up family situation even more. and where is the lie? crazy bro literally kept mittens like a pet toy, his candy. and now he's mad cause he sees the situation like jooin took that from him.
yeah it's unfair for mittens to have to go through this confusing situation like this, but it's unfair for yall to call noona a btch for being a good friend. yall are the antagonistic bitches you hate so much. jumping to your own conclusions and throwing slurs out cause you think you're in the right lol look in the mirrorrrr
For real! I expected the comments to shit over the glasses guy but not the woman?! Calling her the bitch in this situation is so uncalled for. Glasses guy is the culprit but yall rather insult the woman who is protective over her FRIEND? She is allowed to be angry
They both suck idc that shes a woman or not she a bitch fr and so is the ugly brother
SAY IT FKN LOUDERRRR
Bro yall are more shitting over that girl who is rightfully mad for her friend instead of dragging the mf who is ruining the boys lives? Was she harsh? Yes she could have said thing in a nicer form. But I don't think anyone would be calm when your long time friend (who she saw at his lowest) is getting dragged. She is allowed to feel mad. Mitten's situation sucks. WE know that he is also hurt. But red hair girl doesn't know him, she is friend with his bf. Anw calling her a bitch bc she want to protect her friend. Yall are cooked.
this feels like it could have been a klance AU. like if i stitched up different klance fanfics with similar enough premises, i would get this. the asian and mexican character alignment is there too. love it. wish it slowed down a bit and expanded more.
complaining about a webtoon that barely even covers plot in a single chapter, a webtoon that only has 58 chapters... very telling that yall don't actually read anything outside of picture books :D
and complaining about the creator ending the season on a cliffhanger (which is yknow a super effective marketing tool) AND for taking a necessary break for their hard work none of yall are even paying for... fking spoiled and entitled.
Can you let the people whine in peace lmao
Why are you being so saltyyy
Let's find the difference between the SA shown in this work and a lot of the braindead BLs you yourself probably consume.
Braindead BLs will normalise and romanticise unnecessary SA to progress their plot, often showing the couple falling in love with each other with little to no retribution from what they've done.
The SA shown here was an expected and logical development. Does that make SA good? Does it mean the author is romanticising or normalising SA? Why don't you try thinking about it? Answer in 3... 2... 1...
Answer: No. Seoan is mentally ill with crazy emotional trauma who felt his relationship threatened and needed to quickly validate and reinforce said relationship, his reaction is expected. Excused? No. Expected. Yes.
How did the author portray it? Upi shows how destructive his behaviour is, shows him coming to a realisation. Shows a very accurate representation of people with mental illness reacting to their issues. Adds nuance to the situation.
Notice how it's the act of SA that is bad and not necessarily the topic/discussion/portrayal of it that is bad??????
Homework for everyone as we go into a new week of updates!! How are the dark themes portrayed in this work I'm reading
Homework for everyone as we go into a new week of updates!!
How are the dark themes portrayed in this work I'm reading? Is it normalised? Romanticised? Does it make me uncomfortable? Why? Do I like it? Why? Please never stop asking yourself why.
I myself like dark works. Braindead BLs are fun even when they don't make sense. Does that mean I condone everything that happens? No. I will never enjoy or SA someone irl. I am asexual and a recluse. The last time I saw the sun was in a manhwa I read at 2AM last night. Oh and also cause I am a victim of CSA. I will also never normalise or downplay SA if it happens to anyone around me irl. Why? Because I can separate fiction from reality, and understand that these people are real and have their own experiences.
There are people that enjoy and consume dark works exactly because it is in the realm of fiction. There are also people that are outliers and are genuinely fked up, but that's why we develop critical thinking skills so we can differentiate between a real pedophile abuser and Jenny who jacks off to smutty BL she's reading on an illegal website that infringes on creators' hard work. Stay safe and get educated!
i think everyone has questionable side but okay
Yes but puritan culture is a huge thing nowadays esp amongst young people. They're all going "not doing bad" = "everything must be good". They need to seriously reflect about themselves because nothing is a 100% green flag. And even the ones who enjoy questionable things don't even understand themselves or how they should enjoy it safely.
I think I'm okay with a lot of dark things, but again it comes down to separating fiction and reality. And that means acknowledging that yeah what I'm seeing is bad irl, but this is fiction.
There are rare cases where fiction and reality do intertwine, like pedophile mangakas or audiences ero-ing child-looking characters. But that's why it's so important to be able to distinguish these incidents, instead of just lumping it all up together as one big bad thing.
And look at what happened to the Rurouni Kenshin mangaka. Nothing in their works ever suggested they were a pedophile, then turns out they had TERABYTES of child porn, and he didn't even get a heavy punishment and there are fans still consuming his works cause people only want to shout at fictional things but don't actually put the work in when it matters. For comparison, most phones nowadays only go up to a max of 512GB or in some very expensive phones 1TB.
I'm just generally saying btw not @ you, but yeah, this comment will ultimately get lost and forgotten on this site, but /gen for whoever reads this, just understand yourself and these kind of nuanced topics better.
i agree that not everything is green flag tbh most people on this site loves to mix fiction and reality i find it bothersome. u did a great job in explaining . XD couldnt put it in anymore words as u did.
People when authors show the typical "acceptable" symptoms of mental illness: omg yassss representation, mental health is important guys :((((
Same people (who probably only know mental illness from what they see in mainstream media) when authors show the destructive and harmful symptoms of mental illness: omg wtf eww eww eww so toxic red flag boooooooo, go back to having panic attacks then i can sympathise and baby you >:((((((
Yall need to chill and complain about the actual authors romanticising and normalising rape/SA cause pretty sure this illegal hellsite is full of works like that. Whatever Seoan is doing, Upi is clearly showing it's bad for him AND the people around him. If you can't see that and come to your own conclusion instead of wanting FICTIONAL works to always reflect the good ethical things in life, then maybe you shouldn't be reading these works.
Whether you think it's rape or not, you guys clearly don't understand that unlike all the normalised SA scenes in a lot of BL, where do you see Upi NOT showing this is a bad development???
The problem with works including dark themes and scenes, is about how the creators portray those dark things. Another problem is that the readers all heavily lack critical thinking skills that the only conclusion yall can come up with is oh that thing bad so author bad >:(
Seoan felt that his romantic-sexual relationship with Woowon was being threatened, so he did the most intimate thing he knew could validate their relationship. Was that the right choice? Obviously not. But when do we ever make good decisions when we're emotional? And the man's EQ is fked from all his trauma. This is a logical and expected development and again, does that make it good? No. But use your brain!!!! What matters is how Upi handles everything after.
Yall need to learn how to criticise properly instead of using all your bullshit fallacies cause yall in the comments are either villifying mental illness or justifying SA.
Right!
I like both the MLs. It's not just the art style, the character tropes are very reminiscent of old school Kdrama vibes with the "toxic" Go Junpyo kinda ML, and the "Mr. Perfect-Imperfect" Sunbae 2nd ML.
Eunsung has that very despicable yet charming energy to him. The kind you just love to hate and makes you want to root for him to change. Idk but for me, he's not the worst ML out there. At least he knows he's shit, but that makes his potential development interesting.
Jiho I just love him more and more. I thought he was just going to be the boring perfect 2nd ML that is obviously the better "choice" but he has realistic character flaws.
Youngsoo is... Hmmm, he's not bad. I like that he's not just a plain dumb blank slate self-insert, and his pushoverness is consistent with his personality and not just cause the author needs him to be stepped on over to progress the plot. He's in a shit situation but it's something he chose to be in to fight for his beliefs.
I think the ppl hating on this have very different expectations but if you apply some critical thinking, you can tell the author leans very much into campy storytelling (which is not a bad thing and is just another style of writing). Even with the theme of a 'Homophobic Society', it's meant to be satirical, "Look at this shit world where police officers can commit homosexuality but their socks are on so they can arrest the real gays, hah."
So don't go into this so seriously and expect some "good, pure" romance. This is a very controlled mess of romcom goodness with a touch of horny. Adapt accordingly.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T JUST FLAT OUT HATE THE CHARACTERS
these are super good points, can't wait to see where the story goes!!
Your description was golden and hilarious. GG GG (≧∀≦)
being a germophobe myself, i wasn't mad at the inaccuracies of josh's triggers and reactions. maybe cause we have different triggers and concerns anyway? but i was absolutely screeching and scratching myself when i saw them get on the bed with their outside clothes. contaminating my clean safe place with outside germs is probably my biggest trigger and i just... i literally scrolled through the horny because i couldn't handle it...
but that resolution was cute and nice tho TT wish i could find my angel that could "cure" me lol cause i've definitely scared off and pissed off people from coming to my house cause of how imposing i could be on them. that part of josh is accurate at least XD
SAMEEEE Biggest ickk really :’) wearing outside clothes then getting on the bed, I’d probably change sheets the same day someone tries to even sit on my bed with one :’)
Yeah v true but they wanted to fuck REEEALLLYY bad and were at angels house