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I was dead serious when I was reading the chapter, but when sunhwa said my ass is not your dating app these crack me

Does that mean that jiwook actually hurt others too? Not just juhyeon?

That is I been SAYING

Not sure about that but Jiwook was a raging bully + had extreme anger issues to the point everyone around him was scared of him. Even in the first chapter he was making crude jokes about raping juyeon with his only friend. Personally I think thats enough reason to not want him roaming freely on the streets.

Yes, he did

He deserves to live in the blue house for that tbh. I know he did it to get his nut but Korea is finally safe /j

Nooooo.. I thought it was going to be a week. TwT shit then we have to wait for chapter 33

is it really karma if he doesnt remember what he did to begin with

Ah i think it is because just cuz he doesn't remember anything doesn't mean the things he did will disappear or forgotten

right like hes doing too much

Well none of them are innocent but I don't hate the ml as much as the mc cuz he had done Farr worse things to the ml and the thing i hate the most is that the ml was 14 at that time and I think I heard someone said that the mc recorded everything and sent it to the ml's mom and I think she died because of that since she was already sick idk but I'm not saying what the ml is doing okay but the mc did far worst stuffs to him

yeah but karma is about redemption right?? if the person doesnt matter, they wont feel bad for the actions cause they dont even remember said actions, it would just be the other person satisfying themselves because in actuality, they arent any less worse then the person who deserves the karma

In this case yeah, cause even after losing his memories he kept acting like he always did. Juyeon was not the only person he hurt.

A reaction will always be different from an action. Attacking an innocent 14 y.o vs being the victim that gets back to your abuser that even after losing his memories kept acting like a pos will always be different.

Getting back at your abuser by raping them

Yeah, a victim reaction will not always be moral. Basic psychology I fear

You all care a lot about rapists well being...

Don’t be so narrow minded. No one should rape for any reason? Do you know the motive for rape? I would at least understand murder

Honestly I hate this story so much though. People don’t just forget shit like that, It’s so unrealistic in a story has such heavy topics like rape and abuse. especially with how the MC was acting during the start. he was an asshole, but I would never suspect serial rapist type of asshole. But for this to be only introduced once he’s been tortured and raped seems so redundant to me. It’s like the author was trying to excuse the ml behaviour but it’s just not it… I understand the ml went through worse treatment when he was younger, but that doesn’t change the fact he’s a rapist. Idk who knows, maybe that part in the story won’t event be introduced in the manhwa

Nobody should rape, but we dont live in a sugar world. I dont care if a rapist or a pedo get raped, sorry. You can advocate for their rights all you want tho. For me even if they were tortured, i dont give a damn. Just dont touch children and rape people? That easy

You are the narrow minded one to not understand the psychology behind a victim wanting to torture their abuser, it is actually a very normal reaction. You high horsing is blocking you from analysing the complexity of human reactions to trauma

If that was the case, wouldn’t more people be raping their abusers? Except they don’t cause to rape is an action so evil, you would have to be evil to do it.

Because it’s simple, a person who rapes their abuser would then become a rapist. In a world where even murder can be legalized, rape still isn’t. I’m not trying to act on my high horse, I just think it’s something pretty obvious

No? Lmao what is this type of narrow thinking to think there is only one reaction to abuse? Some people wanna kill their abusers, some people wanna torture them, some people get afraid of intimacy and just cause they have the urge to hurt their abusers doesnt mean they will? A lot of things play in that scenario. Humans dont feel only one emotion or urge. Can you understand this basic ?

Maybe for other, but let’s just agree to disagree. I don’t understand any motive to rape, I’m sorry if that’s the case for others

You are entitled to your way of thinking, that is normal. Just that saying a victim is outright evil for raping their rapist is kinda weird to me since that victim can often times be for exemple a kid that has been pushed to the limits of sanity and had their life destroyed by their act. Trying to high horse wont help anyone, honestly. I feel worse for the victim doing that to themselves when they commit that crime, than i will ever feel for a rapist / pedo receiving it

Oh don’t even think I feel bad for the original pedo/rapist, I just don’t think such an action makes sense to take place

I have so many questions since reading this manhwa I swear. It’s testing my humanity i feel

Makes total sense when you consider how devasting sexual assault is to a child psychological state. Some people will develop fear of intimacy for an indefinite tine, some will turn agressive, some will get in a loop of abusive relationships, some will even try to emulate the abuse. That is the human mind, it is complex and it tries its best to deal with stuff it cannot peocess

Are you for real? Just because the abuser forgot what they did to the victim doesn't mean the victim has forgotten what was done to them. Jiwook had that karma coming. Sure, he got it tenfold, but he deserved it even if he didn't remember. It's always easier for the abuser to forget than it is for the victim. You can feel sorry for what happened to him now while still acknowledging that he hurt someone and those actions had consequences.

Not involved in this argument but I really like watching people argue unironically about Juyeon’s ethics. You have people who defend Juyeon and people who think rape is bad no matter what. Both are calling each other rape apologists. I think the guy had it coming, but Juyeon is a fucking weird guy lol. I think it’s important to remember that his mentality is “Some of you will get raped. But that is a sacrifice I am willing to make” and I’m not even kidding. There’s a part in the story where he straight up considers kidnapping some big buff guy who looks like Jiwook and raping him. He rapes Soohyuk purely out of jealousy. There’s the whole deleted dog extra that paints a grotesque portrait of both of their depravity. Bonus for him and Jiwook both exposing their bizarre sex life to nonconsenting parties in the side stories. I defend Juyeon online because it’s fun, but everything he does can’t just be chalked up to traumatized victim teaching his abuser a lesson. It’s way more complicated than that. He was hurt in the worst possible way by his first love. But just as much as he felt hurt, he felt fucking jilted. Not only did Jiwook rape his body, but he took Juyeon’s heart with him before having the audacity to forget him and move on. But Juyeon has to be that raped, heartsick fourteen year old boy for another painful eight years. He organizes gang rapes to prove to himself that he can be as disconnected as Jiwook was to him, and flies off the handle when Jiwook tries to leave. The idea that he will always feel more about Jiwook than Jiwook feels for him pisses him off soooooooo bad. Plus there’s the fact that he chooses Jiwook over his mom multiple times lol. He’s huffing the copium that he’s doing it to avenge himself and his mom but the canister is empty, poor baby.

Yupp exactly

i think you got the best idea but at the end of the day, why didnt he just kill jiwook like TT

easy, juyeon can't be satisfied with just that

bru