Fuck you mean they gave the guy a copy to his apartment key!?!?!? Not only is that highly illegal (even if he can't do anything abt it considering his family has influence), but it's super dangerous too for both Oto and Akane, like what if the guy wants to murder them or sum shit. I know he prolly wouldn't do that he seems like the manipulative type, but STILL?!?!?
THE WAY OTTO DEFENDERS HAVE BEEN BRUSHINF PAST THIS AND OTHER RED FLAGS FROM THE FIANCE DUDE IS CONCERNINF AF
*BRUSHING (my bad for the misspell)
IK RIGHT!?!?!? like I understand they don't wanna assume bad things since he js appeared, but honey the signs are literally EVERYWHERE; and rn i'm stressing over both Oto and Akane (our son). Like not only is the ex-fiancee blatantly pushy, he's using a tactic where he's speaking kindly and giving an order in a soft manner so the recipient would feel pressured to agree, I mean he didn't treat Akane badly, but that doesn't mean he's a good person.
Also i want to talk abt the fact that even if the fiancee accepts Akane as his kid, Akane will prolly get discriminated as an illegitimate child and shunned (cus we all know how it goes) by both Oto and the fiancee's family, but I don't think ppl should blame Oto, not only is he justified for not wanting to ruin the future of the person he loves knowing he is smn w an important family, but he's trying to find the best choice for his kid (yes, he's not looking at the possibility his kid might suffer like he did, but don't forget he's conflicted by emotions and under severe pressure from his family since even after cutting ties w them they still sell him off without telling him anything. Add to that the fact he was raised to listen to what he is told and to only act on that, he alr did amazing until now and it's not like the ppl who are criticizing him would've done better in his situation. Also we know he's not gonna through w it anyways so idk why everyone's complaining)
Exactly man. The fiance's way of talking is very soft coercion. He's presenting all that he wants from Oto as the most beneficial thing ever without asking Oto what his situation is. He could even suggest rekindling their relationship from zero yet here he is offering demands masked as what's best for Oto and Akane. And then you have Oto who's just an idiot cz God forbid he tells the man he doesn't want to go back home cz the man is a representation of everything wrong with his ex home. What if that man goes back on his promise and turns Oto into a baby making machine???
I agree w everything, and yes Oto is being rlly dumb rn, but keep in mind ppl who are raised oppressed very rarely have a high esteem of themselves and when they get the courage to leave their home they can be easily guilt tripped and manipulated so honestly the fact he's acting like that is prolly due more to his past situation than anything. But I do agree he's an adult w a child now and if he decided to leave he should uphold his decision and not act like a coward, that's the key to standing up ro ur past and he HAS to understand that.
Ooooohhh the girls are fighting again
Anyhow I like how they're building the emotional suspense, it's likely that they'll be like that until they find the Mirror who'll reveal what they all truly want and that's how Kay will discover he likes Zigril and afterwards he'll prolly tell him Schuman was trying to betray him but won't be able to in time and when Zigril's gonna be on the verge of death he'll finally admit that he likes him and vise versa or the Mirror will break and they won't know till Zigril boutta die (Schuman will prolly stay alive and get sent to that white haired dude who has a crush on him bcs he'll be bought or sum shit)
Lol, I am not I love how Kay is unconsciously actually knows how to handle Zigril's little games. Although Zigril is sharp, Kay also seem to know him well enough. But, he is a little oblivious to certain things. And their dynamic doesn't help the communication . This is probably the only toxic plot I found interesting in a while. I do hope things progress for the better. Kay grew up having to adapt to alot of things including loss. He knows loss since he was young and thats why he learnt to let things go, especially since he feels he cannot control anything. So I get him to some extend. However I love howahwa is able to mix up serious moments with comedy.
No bcs fr, this toxic relationship has a lot of plot potential and it's very interesting considering how the characters are acting as well as their way of thinking. And I agree abt the fact that the humor mixed w srs moments rlly helps tie everything together
I love your idea. I will manifest to this… and they live happily while fu*king each other (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Let's manifest it 2gether bro ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Hi i'm the auntie and I think it's gonna be twinssss
This whole manhwa is a fever dream istg...
Also the story was good, but then they had to add chapters by making Kay basically indifferent to Zigris' love (rightfully so btw but they could've either js made them not be together or make him fall in live w Zigris, wich i assume that's what they're gonna develop rn), but atp it's js him being dense abt what he's feeling.
Seeing how it's going i assume Kay will realize he loves Zigris after the later nearly dies during the coup and by that point they'll have found the mirror of Targo, and he'll prolly see that he loves him and he'll see that Zigris likes him the most. (in another case the mirror does smt else and Zigris confuses it and they have a lowk divorce arc that makes them (Kay) realize he likes him) anyways it's too bad that they made the story so painfully long.
I HOPE Schuman was bluffing cus his and Zigris interaction are so funny and I don't want him to die, and I need him w Noel.
In all this is a pretty fucking funny manhwa w a good artstyle but I lowk wonder if the author was high while writing it (cus w.t.f is that. In a semi- bad way /not talking abt the characters' personality, but the concept in general wich was amazing although this was more suited to be a comedy then anything too serious w how everyone is acting.)
I disagree with the story being good, it was ass from the beginning. But at least it was entertaining, but now it’s overstaying its welcome.
I disagree it’s fun and I need more.
I agree, i need more 2
Masochists but who am I to judge
Yet, you are.
Lmfao u're right
(y'all i feel like the switched at birth theory is valid, as you can see Okaya looks a LOT like Maria while Nagare looks like Okaya's mother.)
And i feel like Okaya prbly really considered Nagare his friend but smh he managed to discover the truth, he might have had feelings even before discovering it , feelings that w his personnality evolved into the most messed up f up obsession wich he either doesn't realise or refuses to acknowledge
yes it's highly possible that Okaya felt love for Nagare in a despicaple, psychopatic way, i had this theory before bcs of his perspective even at the start i mean look carefully at what he says it's ovious as hell.
Also the fact that bullying is done w no concern towards the victim; even if the bully is smart just like Okaya they dc abt their victims, but this lack of care differ in each person who performs the act depending on how they perceive the victim:
like in the panel were he raised cockroaches to make Nagare eat them he does that and preserves Nagare bcs "he wants to keep him alive enough to torment him", he is interested in the fire that burns in Nagare he doesn't understand it and wishes to get rid of it he DOESN'T care abt Nagare but those are his words, his POV in reality he is attracted to Nagare's personnality wich annoys him and prbbly makes him want to hurt Nagare to proe to himself most of all that he doesn't care bcs he can't comprehend the emotion of care or love he hates but loves him in such an unhealthy amount and is so deep in denial he feels the need to remind himself constantly of his death and how he regrets it not bcs Nagare died but bcs now he can't have fun wich is i think a lie to himself bcs if he did not care he would not still have pictures under the pretext that he regrets not preventing the truck from killing him to hurt him more mentally(yes he would have but keeping the pictures is not for that i don;t think so) he also wouldn't have stayed stuck on it for years, i think that will be the plot twist but better explaied in the manga
also look at the other works the genres will say a lot on how this might end smt when you look at the other works you might notice a pattern be it a character or smt else it still will show you how other unfinished stuff might evolve
Maria had extensive plastic surgery, she changed her face so much that her own husband doesn't recognize so I don't think okaya actually looks like her enough to be her son
Still there? In c.51 Okaya has the same eyes as MarÃa but the love part... It seems that Okaya view nagare as a cockroach and himself as the god that will love the filthy animal
Omg so I am not the only one who thinks this?! Especially when that kindergarten picture part like bruh "Are you sure they are not switching at birth?!"
Still, I had no idea why he bullied him...could be pissed off because he took his 'biological' parents?!
Okay I really want to say smt abt I understand that everyone is mad over the fact that Caesar r@ped Lee won rightfully so but like you do know that saying "even If it's fiction it's bad" is kind of hypocrisy in a way because you're all taking the crimes he committed into accountancy as real and as bad wich is normal and right but you all forget that Caesar stays a psychopath his upbringing wich was devoid of human touch love and affection made him not yearn for those things he was basically taught to never know them so he wouldn't need them and since birth he was brutally taught that only the strongest survived and that if you were the strongest you can do as you please and that you should never feel bad abt it since this is how things work in the world growing like that made him unable to understand basic human emotions that actually are learned through situations like hurting smn and being told off abt how bad it was that would make the person feel bad but his education was based into forging him to be strong a weapon basically unbreakable under any kind of pressure especially the one that made humans weak psychological wich means conditioning him into being a psychopath and a sociopath through a harsh learning environment wich means that when he finally felt love for Lee Won he probably thought that this emotion that made him feel so good was due to LW to be able to feel it more Lee won should stay with him but also because he learned that if his bf isn't with him it feels horrible he discovered love and all the emotions that comes with being in a relationship proccurs and ofc since he doesn't have basic moral codes and no knowledge of love or relationships for that matter that involves more then s$x the emotion grew more towards desperate obsession
All that to say that if you take his crime as a matter of real life again rightfully so you should also stop forgetting that the man has genuine psychological problems caused by a fierce and violent and traumatic life without rest and treat this as if it was reality just as you do with his crimes I'm not defending what he did he should be held responsible but the man despite being aware of how bad it is doesn't get it in it's entire extent and rn even LW finally understood that
Facts, that's the main reason I can never hate Caesar his just raised that way...leewon accepted that part Caesar so there's nothing y'all can do about that.
Being raised that way doesn’t excuse it, hes lived long enough to realise that he was raised wrong, there are tons of people in his universe telling him hes mad it should be obvious enough to him by now that he is in fact mad.
wow he had a bad childhood so sad must mean its okay for him to completely ignore everyone telling him hes in the wrong every time he does something wrong. Hes a grown ass adult almost a middle aged man he has had enough time to realise what he went through was wrong and what he is doing isn’t normal.
Ngl so true bestie, its like saying I cant like a character if they committed arson or smth like its FICTIONAL, its something burning in a FICTIONAL world. Oh my god guys in the big 25? Wake up gang..
Honestly, support this statement. Like not every story should be sunshines and rainbows happily ever after disney princes type shi- like if they’re triggered in these kinds of things move tf on and find like a Slice of Life genre. Easy as that. I want some fucked up shit in my story, I just find some overly sweet plot kind of stale sometimes.
True ; ; like c’mon. It doesn’t even violate anything ethically irl. If you can’t separate fiction to reality or project some issues into these stories that’s a you problem.
Yess amen to thattt...
If they dont like that the ml is a rapist or the story then DONT READ ITTTT... end of the story righhttt.... thats what i do.. theres a lot of manga/manhua i want to read.. but dont cause they been raped by many men or whoring their self so pass for me..haha
we just have different preference...
and i prefer that the ml is using force/rape to the mc but they will end together at the end.. than the mc will be rape by anyone other than the ml...
Im sick in the mind
U can judge if u want...
Hahahah
LOVE this paragraph bruh you understand
Bro who’s reading allat
i actually have a theory for what's happening maybe Katisha in the original work appeared before the og FL due to the granda dying (he's awesome btw) and she got the family's love and Aikal's too but the og FL killed her or smt like that then she might have tempered with everybody's memories so that they forget our FL after that she brought back Aikal to the church lying and telling him Katisha abandonned him then she went and stayed in the manor so that she can inherit everything but the people might have thought there was smt wrong especially the fam and they hated her
our FL (Katisha) in the og work she's reading is dead what i said could be the reason that might explain why he (the og ML) said that og FL lied to him and that Katisha is dead
I think something similar happened too!
This comment section is highk woke y'all