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Creepy af, I know

I am a survivor of SA.

It’s important to address misunderstandings calmly. The story does not involve rape, though it has complex or problematic elements. Accurate discussions about sensitive topics are crucial. Misunderstandings can occur, but resorting to personal attacks is unhelpful. If you have concerns, it’s better to discuss them respectfully and factually. Attacking others for their opinions on a story, even if you find it problematic, doesn’t contribute to constructive conversation. Accusations should be based on the actual content of the story, not on personal viewpoints that do not align with the facts.

I find comments like yours contradicts what you are saying because what you are accusing people of reflects in your message. It was sick to read what you said.

Screw yourself cause to me it sounds like you read it

Otherwise you wouldn’t know jack shit about book （￣へ￣）

I fw this comment heavy! I will never read this bl

You do you boo

They chewed my ass after I said people who read this were weird

With all the gaslighting and misinformation on this page I wonder if that is something taking out of context? You attack people for reading a story. That is unfair and wrong.

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Your comment appears to be an attempt to deflect from the actual discussion and seems more like trolling than a meaningful contribution. This approach suggests that you might not have valid points to address the issues raised.

For the record, I am employed, and it's crucial to focus on the content of the discussion rather than resorting to personal jabs. Your comment reflects more on your own priorities and behavior than on the topic at hand. It’s important to engage respectfully and constructively.

So people are just fucking pathetic

ur right i dont know shit about the book, its just that fucking infamous for r8pe and sa stop tryna defend this shitty manhwa

so should we congratulate you for reading stories that romanticize sa and r8pe?

if you're a survivor of sa, seek a goddamn therapist don't use this crazy stuff as a coping mechanism. Regardless, do you think romanticizing r8pe is justifiable because you're a survivor of sa? How do you think other survivors feel having people romanticize it? They feel fucking horrible.

Are you a survivor? If not then shut hell up. You haven’t even read the book meaning you don’t know what actually happens in it. Yet you’re saying that people who read should go screw themselves. Also that a dick move you made. You don’t shit about what’s going on in their head yet you wanna say that they’re using this book as a coping mechanism. Go fuck youruself

Your comment is a weak insult and a baseless assumption. The story doesn't romanticize anything, and it's important to remember that Jinx is a fictional narrative, not reality. I hope that in time, you’ll be able to distinguish between the two and treat others with respect, rather than resorting to overused insults. It’s ironic that you're suggesting therapy when your comments are more toxic than the story itself. It is fictional. I am real person.


You’ve used what I shared as a weapon, and you’re accusing the story of romanticizing rape and sexual assault when there is none. In doing so, you’re becoming the very thing you claim to hate. If you can't engage in a respectful discussion, maybe you should take your own advice and step away. It’s clear that you’re reacting to online narratives rather than the actual content of the story.

calling it a romanticized version of abuse and rape is a subjective interpretation that the actual story does not support.

The relationship between Jaekyung and Dan is complex and transitional, and they were never portrayed as lovers or boyfriends.There is no romance in the first 53 chapters.

Little reality check 4 you.just because someone is an SA survivor does not mean they have an upper hand to define what rape is.

Bro you are so full of it you're this close of calling 911... Lmao

baby, have you? I've been both groomed and sa'ed yet you freaks have the audacity to romanticize this shit but sure promote bad coping mechanisms and tell sa survivors to fuck themselves. but of course, I should respect people who don't take sa seriously and have to put up with your bullshit of an excuse to read r8pe

you're proving my point, they never loved each other nor did the goddamn victim want to be r8ped. If he didn't like what was happening its considered fucking r8pe.

bye- you're exaggerating my words but go off!

You are assuming too much. I disproved your claims. There is no rape depicted. They never loved each other? Both are falling for each other. Dan is aware of his feelings. No. If you don’t like sex with X that is not rape. And Dan does like sex with him.

I understand your anger and the hurt that comes from being both groomed and assaulted—it’s beyond unfair to have to endure that kind of trauma. It's valid to feel upset about how people sometimes romanticize or trivialize these experiences but that is not happening here.

However, I’d encourage you to be careful about becoming consumed by that anger. Sometimes, the things we hate can shape us in ways we don’t expect. It’s important to channel your emotions in ways that allow you to heal, rather than become the very thing you're fighting against.
You are becoming what you hate. You are talking about yourself.

are you some kinda therapist or something? stop acting mature if you read this shit cuz it only makes u look silly. Anyways, you keep denying that there's sa and r8pe in Jinx yet you say it includes sexual coercion. hate 2 break it 2 ya but sexual coercion is just as bad as r8pe and sa

also please elaborate on 'you are what you hate' r u calling me a r8pe lover...? T0T

Lying about my friend and dismissing their perspective isn’t constructive. They’re discussing the complexities of coercion and consent, which are important themes in the story. It’s unfair to label them as silly; that feels more like self-projection. They’ve acknowledged sexual assault multiple times and clarified that while you believe there’s rape, the story and legal definitions don’t support that.

If you read their posts, you’d see they’ve consistently pointed out that sexual coercion is a form of sexual assault and that both are present in Jinx. What you did was a strawman argument. Rape is indeed worse, but not all sexual coercion is illegal—it’s still a serious issue.

Let’s focus on the actual content of the discussion instead of trying to discredit each other.

They’ve made their points clear in the thread you responded to, emphasizing the distinction between sexual coercion and rape. It's essential to engage respectfully and factually in these discussions.


https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/17076355/?page=2

They said here. twice. One was about 12 hours ago.

"It's important to remain factual and use accurate terminology in discussions like this. Let's ensure we're engaging in a respectful manner. Sexual coercion is a type of sexual assault, and the examples provided on this site clearly distinguish between sexual assault and rape. Only one of the examples is classified as rape.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion#is-it-abuse

“Sexual coercion is when a person pressures, tricks, threatens, or manipulates someone into sex. It is a type of sexual assault because even if someone says yes, they are not giving their consent freely.”

Sexual coercion is sexual assault.

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They have posted a few times. It is from a friend of ours. this has been posted a few times over the months. It is clear they are saying Jinx has sexual coercion which is SA, not rape. So why use a strawman and change what they said?

My friend pointed out that your comments are becoming toxic, which can lead to harmful attitudes. They emphasized the importance of separating fiction from reality. Jinx doesn’t romanticize rape, and calling it a 'romanticized version of abuse' is a subjective. The relationship between Jaekyung and Dan is not portrayed as romantic. While you have not read this Dan left and the fake relationship is over.

Also, it’s worth noting that many people enjoy fantasy content without condoning real-life abuse. Sexual fantasies are a normal part of human sexuality, and they don’t equate to endorsing harm in reality. It’s important to recognize this distinction rather than projecting hatred onto others. Let’s focus on having a respectful discussion about the actual content of the story.

Hey, I watched this video about jinx, and I think it explains the book well, https://youtu.be/VUj7l68y7eM?si=IvfXXJJLNF7ws8XZ
Obviously you dont have to watch it, but if you do, I hope you realize why you shouldn’t be defending this book

We've read the book many times. Is my friend defending the book? That is a strawman argument.

However, anyone can defend any story. I hope you realize that you shouldn't be changing someone's words to make that statement or spreading misinformation.

We know that video is from a hater and misleading everyone; this story does not contain rape. We're part of the audience that the creator ignored - the middle.
It’s a biased video—my friend thinks it’s trash https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/17068741/?page=2

That person tagged this comment. I don’t think acknowledging valid criticisms or explaining the story is the same as defending the book. Cautioning someone against letting their anger consume them isn’t defending the book either. You seem to be defending readers, but remember, people are not books. Using misinformation from a hater to discredit someone is unfair, unproductive, and overused on this page

Womp womp! I was trying to be nice but atp IDGAF

Womp womp? They deleted that profile—that’s makes that more suspicious. It’s ironic to call it 'being nice' while using gaslighting and strawman arguments. Spreading misinformation from a hater and presenting it as fact isn’t helpful.

Let’s focus on a genuine discussion instead of dismissing valid concerns.

it is r8pe when you threaten someone to having sex? what do you not understand he wasn't being 'touchy' they both were having sex you baffoon nonconsensual sex IS r8pe

the fact you read a book about romanticizing SA and r8pe is concerning but you read it numerous times? even worse. you admitted you know it's sa yet you ignore it and attempt to change the topic to "being disrespectful". you could say its biased if there's only one or two videos bashing the manhwa, except numerous videos are addressing how this manhwa romanticizes r8pe and if anything you and you're friend are trash

yeah, sexual fantasies of being sexually assaulted and sexual coercion. you're acting as if it's not a big deal this stuff actually happens to people it's not fiction and yet you say they don't equate to endorsing harm in reality? and when you say I shouldn't project hatred onto others it's ignorant, how do you think I feel having been sa'ed yet people romanticize it saying 'wow I wish I was dan" if you wanna talk about respect then stop being disrespectful yourself and be mindful of real sa victims

Who are you to judge ppl?

Let me guess you read this nasty shit too... the audacity you have to even reply again after telling me to stfu because since I'm 'not' a victim of sa I shouldn't have a say. Keep in mind that I AM otherwise why would I be triggered? Now I'll ask you the same, who are you to argue with a sa victim because you yourself fantasize about it?

This argument has been going on for long enough. You obviously don’t want to listen or understand what their saying, so just go rant about something else somewhere else.

Do you show up on metal concert music or horror movies shouting "his stuff actually happens to people it's not fiction"? Lol and what about Light Yagami fans ? Are they normalizing murder?

are you seriously gonna compare death note to a literal r8pe manhwa that's funny. the difference is that none of us were killed we're we? what kind of dumb comparison is that. but then again you also read smut about grooming which just makes you even worse of a person :/

Lol what do you know about me? I'm a victim of r@pe and sa too but I don't shout it bruh coz this has nothing to do with what I read u ape

Literally said nothing in this reply, just stupidly

i doubt it lol...you're saying you're a victim but you don't have any trauma and your completely fine with watching other people get sa'ed. oh please stop throwing around those words its annoying for people who actually had to go through that.

Wow is this really your reply I still can't believe lmao

one day haters will learn that using insults doesn’t strengthen their argument—it just shows a lack of maturity and a moral compass. They’ll realize that toxicity isn’t the way to have meaningful discussions. Maybe they'll also learn it’s not right to silence others for speaking the truth. Open dialogue is crucial, especially on important issues.

Also how would you know? you did not read the story to know. Thanks for proving my point that you are here to only cause troubles.

About your other claims with facts.

Threats = Sexual Coercion = Sexual Assault.


Rape is non-con but not all non-con is rape but explain how molestation is rape?
Jinx is non-con but it is not rape. Jinx has sexual coercion but it is not rape.


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"It's important to remain factual and use accurate terminology in discussions like this. Let's ensure we're engaging in a respectful manner. Sexual coercion is a type of sexual assault, and the examples provided on this site clearly distinguish between sexual assault and rape. Only one of the examples is classified as rape.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion#is-it-abuse

“Sexual coercion is when a person pressures, tricks, threatens, or manipulates someone into sex. It is a type of sexual assault because even if someone says yes, they are not giving their consent freely.”

Sexual coercion is sexual assault."


Examples of sexual coercion
A person may try to sexually coerce someone through:

Threats to the relationship: A person may threaten to leave a relationship if someone does not consent to sex. Alternatively, they may play on their partner’s insecurities, such as by suggesting they are boring or unattractive if they say no, or that they will start being unfaithful.



Threats = Sexual Coercion = Sexual Assault.


Rape is a form of sexual assault. However, not all forms of sexual assault will be considered rape.
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The University will not tolerate rape, sexual assault, or other forms of sexual violence or nonconsensual sexual activity."

Why is a university separating rape and nonconsensual?

"Any actual or attempted nonconsensual sexual activity including, but not limited to:sexual intercourse, or sexual touching, committed without physical force, coercion, threat, or intimidation; exhibitionism or sexual language ofa threatening nature by a person(s) known or unknown to the victim."

Sexual touching is non con? touching?


https://legalvoice.org/nonconsensual-pornography/

“Nonconsensual pornography” is when a sexually graphic image of you is shared without your consent.

https://www.youthpower.org/youthpower-issues/topics/non-consensual-sex

Non-consensual sex takes many forms, including forced sex, transactional sex, cross-generational sex, unwanted touch, and molestation.

I read the book to analyze it. What book are you referring to? Jinx does not romanticize sexual assault; there is no rape in it. Your use of strawman arguments undermines your position. That last sentence reflects poorly on you and suggests some self-projection here.

Strawman and gaslighting

I don't think it is an an argument when one is only here to cause troubles. You are right.

and because your are a victim you think it's ok for you to read a manhwa that romanticizes it? no, it's still wrong in general that someone even thought of writing this. you don't only count for the millions of people who've suffered.

so you're saying you're gonna continue reading sa smut because I'm being rude? what is your point about me being aggressive I don't understand why its necessary to point out.

how am i gonna gaslight you with your own words please elaborate.

lol, so you won't address the fact you read smut about grooming children?

oh dear...not only that but you read incestuous yaoi as well???

if it's not an argument then quit responding. if you won't I will cuz y'all are js getting boring and tiresome.

Tell me why 95% of these comments is just you being a hard headed bitch . Go start a fight somewhere else. Also you have no right to say that someone doesn’t have trauma when you don’t even fucking know them, just another example as to why you should just end this argument. Hell this isn’t even an argument, this just you getting pissy over a book you’ve never read.

looks whos talking LOL have you no shame enjoying yaoi about incest and grooming please quit embarrassing yourself and quit interfering <3

i can have my doubts afterall you just claimed to have been sa and then just brushed it off, hell you even used the fact you've been sa'ed as an excuse to read a manhwa that LITERALLY romanticizes sa but ok call me a hard headed bitch incest lover :3

keep in mind whether you're a victim or not IT DOESNT JUSTIFY SHIT ABOUT THIS MANHWA!!! -.-

LMAO you even removed the incest and grooming from your read glad you're aware it was bad, I applaud you !!!

You got the wrong person, i didn’t say shit about being sa’ed or anything

You hit the nail on the head. I think you indirectly explained attention-seeking, trolling or both.

OMG UR RIGHT HELP. my bad gang

bye they blocked me ;-; they dont wanna adress sa anymore

can i not reply anymore

That’s honestly fucking crazy

As your 'critiques' focus on themes of rape and sexual assault in a story you haven’t read.

I decided to block you. My friends and I often disengage when conversations become unproductive or devolve into personal attacks. When someone makes false assumptions about our comments or misrepresents what we've said, it understandably raises our guard.

I feel my comments are being dismissed and misrepresented, along with factual information.

I want to emphasize that my goal here is to engage in meaningful discussions, not to attack or be attacked. It’s clear your approach has devolved into personal attacks and strawman arguments, which only derail the conversation. This behavior reflects more on you than on those you target. I encourage you to find something productive to do instead; it will be more fulfilling than harming others

Are you going to tell me what to read bruuuuh shut ur trap and get out of this section comment, u have nothing to do here

LMAOOOO yes then what XDDDD bruh checked my account ?? Creep find something else to do in your free time like find a life

I am not. I hoped I would bear more credibility in denying Jaekyung of being a rapist. I already tried that with another account but was caught using alts.

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