To all the Ecles haters, he is far better then our fl. Dude was a slave, bought, and was MANIPULATED by our FL and not once was he ever given true love or affection. She always had an agenda with him. He grew twisted because his heart wanted love. His heart wanted closure because our FL left everything so open ended because she was looking at her options. Don’t get me wrong I love the story but our FL is not a good guy. She ruined this man. My heart aches for his story the most but I still ship her with Callisto.
She wanted a slave. She's bought him and used him, that's what a slave is. She didn't seduce him or had a physical relationship. How's she to blame for him to fall in love her? If men do something, why is it always a woman's fault?? She's trying to survive in the game where she died multiple times already. Is she supposed to play Saint??
Agreed. Besides, they live in a society with hierarchy. Although FL was thought to be an orphan, she's still part of a noble house. She's using all cards laid out to her to survive. Yeah, she isn't innocent, but Ecles' motivations are his alone.
How are we making her innocent for buying a slave from a fallen kingdom? It’s her fault because she held him hostage and put a collar on him, what he’s experiencing is most likely Stockholm syndrome so it is completely her fault she fell in love with him. Him falling in love was literally her objective when she got him
No one is saying she has to a be a saint but that doesn’t absolve her of being wrong
Yeah that comment caught me off guard, the one you responded to. Talking about the world or hierarchy and slavery. Just because it's normal doesnt make it okay doesnt absolve Penelope of her crimes. I dont like anyone who tries to make slavery seems likr a means to an end. Given our world history its icky seeing certain commengs.
Super yikes to the first two comments justifying him being a slave and his own actions. Ecles was literally GROOMED by her for her escape. Her situation was absolutely terrifying but to being blame him when all he wanted was her to be free and to smile? He wasn’t given education other than sword training. He was molded into her tool and given no other talents to survive in his own. If she cared for him she would have freed him. Let him truly live how he wants. Before she got him tangled in her web. The female leads growth is recognizing how she mistreated him but the author then glossed it over. Ecles is truly a victim of everyone’s schemes.
Anyone else tired of the Mass Deletes? I demand an explanation from Mangago. If someone else has the manga there needs to be a way to prevent others from uploading or something becuase this isn't the first time nor is it the 7th time. Enough with the crappy upload/deletions. Don't let it upload if you're going to delete. Everyone like the comment so it gets seen by the heads. Or don't i don't care, i may look for another cite if this doesn't get fixed in a month max.
Me also tired with this kind of things now. We demand some explanation here （￣へ￣）
More like fixes. We all know that other translators are posting on other turf or bad translations. Mangago needs to make it so this doesn't happen.
Totally agree with u, hopefully we can see some changes here for better
Made a comment on another story about this. Don’t worry. There’s no way mangago admin doesn’t know how pissed off people are getting. This crap, since the upload button, has gotten worse and worse. Within the last few weeks this has affected no less than 15 stories I’m reading. We have:
1. Mass uploads of shit translations
2. Mass deletions of shit translations
3. Double uploads of chapters
4. Deletion and re-uploads of those same chapters
5. Spam half chapter uploads by hacks baiting you to their ad heavy questionable sites.
6. Chapters that have panels from other chapters mixed in
7. Hack uploaders leaving notices, but use the next chapter number for the notice. So the next uploader thinks that chapter has been posted and uploads the following chapter…..therefore skipping a f****** chapter
8. And today…..for the first time, a MANGA I’m reading had several chapter updates of the damned Webtoon Color version which is WAY behind the manga version.
I love Mangago. There’s no other site that has this great level of community interaction. I’ve also found no site that gives us so many options for tracking our stories, keeping track of topics, etc. This is the best. But, I’m going to start looking around for the second best because this is getting so frustrating. That’s a worst case scenario. I’m hoping now that these complaints are getting to be more and more all across mangago and on tons of stories, admin will take a serious look at this mess and find a solution. Whew…..sorry, y’all. Just had to vent.
I mean I wish there was more organization and better quality control too but as far as I know no one is getting paid to upload these or maintain the site so I think its a bit unrealistic to expect much change from volunteers who are vaguely breaking the law to even post these here
I don’t. I’ve been here for years. Before mangago put in the upload button this didn’t happen. Sure we got mass releases of crap, but enough of us flagged it, like S2Manga and admin deleted it. DONE DEAL. Eventually the original translation group posted their high quality chapters one at a time. This chaos started with the upload option button. It’s gotten progressively worse. So, yeah, they can make things better by going to back to their original upload format.
I see another old timer like myself has appeared and it warm my heart. Like you, I'm looking for another cite to read manage as close as this one. The administration have the power to fix it so hopefully they will have a better management of uploads from now on.
Lol, let me know if you find one. After that second time this site went down I found two sites that, between the two of them, had all my stories. I saved everything. They are my back up sites. Unfortunately, there’s no comment interactions, nothing social whatsoever, no options to put things on Read Later, any kind of lists, etc. All I can do on those sites is mark the stories I’m reading. But after Mangago went dark twice in 2 months, I'm thankful for at least that much. Fingers crossed they fix this mess.
Yeah. I do not know if mangago were sleeping. But now they are awake. Kun manga and the likes took so many manhuas from uploaders. And the OG translators left. Now mangago have deleted them but we have a vacuum of translations on many manhwa.
Anyone else tired of the Mass Deletes? I demand an explanation from Mangago. If someone else has the manga there needs to be a way to prevent others from uploading or something becuase this isn't the first time nor is it the 7th time. Enough with the crappy upload/deletions. Don't let it upload if you're going to delete. Everyone like the comment so it gets seen by the heads. Or don't i don't care, i may look for another cite if this doesn't get fixed in a month max.
it's not the sites fault. people started promoting other sites and servers using m/angago. just crapy people thinking that they are doing something. I've seen this happen to multiple stories lately, for example, yesterday around midnight someone uploaded a fake chapter of solo leveling with the title chapter 159 even tho it was just the raws for 158 promoting their discord server saying that you can read chapter 159 there. The link didn't work so I couldn't talk to any of them, chapter 159 wasn't even out to begin with. Just asshole playing around ig.
That's where your wrong. They need to reupdate their site so there has to be an approval posting first. Called cite or project management. People posting others work is pretty shifty but at the end of the day it's been a thing for thr past month now and they'll lost people to other servers that don't let this happen
Anyone else tired of the Mass Deletes? I demand an explanation from Mangago. If someone else has the manga there needs to be a way to prevent others from uploading or something becuase this isn't the first time nor is it the 7th time. Enough with the crappy upload/deletions. Don't let it upload if you're going to delete. Everyone like the comment so it gets seen by the heads. Or don't i don't care, i may look for another cite if this doesn't get fixed in a month max.
sawateam is uploading this one.. but I've joined like 5 dc servers just to get proper uploads bc here they just.. DELETE :( man this is all illegal why delete
I NEED HIM TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING TO HER!!!! HE"S BEEN LIED TO FOR 3 YEARS!!!
OMG THIS STORY IS SO DEEP AND AMAZING!
sameee i rly want him to see how she's treated and then treat his wife better,,
Maybe because I've read to many other author reborn novels, but this just seems lacking. waits till second chapter to reveal shes the auther than spills the story. The so-called important item that brought them together is just that, an excuse. It had no actual plot value. it's cute but not for me.
clearly the spoilers are in depth, that measn one of ya'll are hiding the novel. hand it over and no one gets hurt..... please T.T
Ladies and gents, you won't be disappointed with this story. Not one bit.
Omg really..... Thanks duud I'm dying now to see the end ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
I'm cool with the male leading making such a huge mistake. One because there would be no development and being a black dragon he certainly hasn't been acting like one. 2 I'm tired of perfect male leads and female leads. This is something that he'll have to mature on and fix and i'd like to see the process. i also feel like maybe her magic power just sky rockted. 3, be real guys, her personality is stubborn off the deep in and this was the type of push that should help her deal with her emotions that she has 100% avoiding. Every time its been "that" man. I'm interested in seeing how the plot developed and i like the author making the ML not a push over, but having a flaw that is species related. I also like how this makes the story so much more interesting.
What really bothers me was ML giving his heart to MC which means shes no longer "human" without asking for her consent since shes gonna have to live with it her whole life from now on. But considering her personality she wouldnt have accepted it anyways and would have abandoned him at the spot and the end, manhwa completed lol. So yeah I have mixed feelings about it
but this isn't a mistake. The lying was shitty af but kinda more normal for someone. But that literally altered her whole life, that isn't a simple 'mistake'. It disgusted me seeing how he blatantly disregarded his partners choices and opinion for his lame satisfaction. That isn't a mistake, it's toxic. I'm happy to see actual people in manga who have actual emotions and aren't perfect. But this guy is a dragon dude, image of perfection.
Dragon's are in no sense perfect beings, which is why he made a choice above a human to give her his heart. In some sense i think its romantic but altering her lifespan is a huge move. However she has nothing but the magic tower tying her down. No family she is close too, no people. Toxic traits in mangas are meant to be fixed but he wasn't thinking like a human but as a dragon. Again, the story has to go on and he's been wayyyy to docile for a black dragon that was supposed to be insanely hard to handle. This isn't a human / human relationship but becuase he has a human form everyone is using the standard toxic. It doesn't apply quite like thzt in mangas where its a species difference. But everyone has there drawking the line point and its just easier for some to accept then others. I personally will still keep reading cause he's finally acting like a Black Dragon and not a push over. As well as i want to see how they overcome this.
nah that shit ain't romantic. Its toxic af. Even if there is nothing tying her down, still doesn't make it right. I meant perfect in a sentient way, dragons are stronger live longer and that gives a huge power imbalance in the relationship. If she had consented yeah all goes well. But it is a act of violence and cuz he's a dragon doesn't excuse it (it may be a factor to the decision) and it shouldn't be excused cuz it's "romantic" or he's hot. Way too much shit in manga gets brushed away cuz the guy hot
i excused it slightly due tot he fact that he is a BLACK dragon. His species is not really the consent type from what they fortold in the story so far. Either way, plot and story development.
This is crazy reading the comments about wanting the empress to have a redemption arc. She has not only sexually assaulted him, but literally if there is something precious to him either kills or burns it. She is psychotic. I get the comments of wanting a strong female lead and such but the pure toxic that she is of raping, imprisoning, and mental damage to the king who has only ever tried to help his younger brother. If you all want him to be happy, fucking wish a gentle lover for him or let him die with the ghost of his past lover. Even though she confused him with his father she was a 1000 times better than the current empress. The current empress is one hell of a ruler but also gives the spoiled child troupe next level and she’s a great villian who is unhinged but there is no justifiable reason for her way of loving someone.
Right? When she told Enoch he was ignoring Juliet's will and she personally wouldn't stand for the same to be done to her, my brain screamed, "You don't respect the Emperor's will, though! You can't believe in it for yourself, ignore it for everyone else, and expect things to go your way."
I too get the strong female lead undertones but this story focuses on idol and ire. Her actions towards those she's close to matter the most. If she didn't find out within a few breaths that girl was his niece, she would have been dead before the next morning. The more actions she takes towards her husband, the more he pushes her away. I get being backed into a corner emotionally but she put it best herself when it dawned on her she was begging for his attention and affection. I can't wait to see if she figures out she's the reason he's ill.