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Kivomo shared experience about question
As a gay man I’m so damn tired. You can clearly see the pattern: suddenly everyone has so much to say… but only when it comes to BL. Wish you’d bring THAT exact same energy you use to nitpick BL and demand changes and apply it to GL too! Like "we need men in GL who are actual characters and people… NOT just plot devices, rivals or annoyi......
Kivomo created a topic of Secret Relationship

Why are Secret Relationship K‑BL live‑action fans so annoying on Twitter now that a Thai remake’s happening?? Let’s be honest, their version was just mid, same as most K‑BL adaptations anyway. Only ones that actually slayed were Semantic Error and Love for Love’s Sake.

Wish they’d just shut up already, acting like K‑BL is flawless and way above everything else, trashing Thai BL like it’s worse… hello?? Thai BL has SO many actual top‑tier gems, unlike K‑BL . Thai bl doesn’t deserve all that hate, way more variety, and studios really put real effort into it, not cheap low‑quality messes. Companies like Domundi, Be On Cloud set the standard high.

Kivomo created a topic of Dear Anti-Fan

I thought the brown haired one is the top ╥﹏╥ i got catfished.Immediately a mid.

Im fcking tired. Its always bottom mc. I know women authors want to self insert so thats explain it but why is this also the case for thai gay men director ( ̄へ ̄)

Kivomo created a topic of One room TA

Why’d this even get an anime again?? Fr don’t get the hype at all Honestly I’d be way more into it if the main pair actually had chemistry y’know black‑haired + blond like all those clips I see everywhere instead of this boring zero‑spark duo. There are so many way better stories that deserved it first! Like 11th School Trip, Necromancer’s Survival Guide, I Don’t Want This Reincarnation, Love History Caused by Willful Negligence, Love Games… and loads more man. They skipped all the good stuff for this? Really??

Kivomo created a topic of Bleach

Bleach is coming back and lets fcking gooo. Just saw it in twitter and immediately come here to comment.

Also mid sakamotodays will be ending which is another W, freeing a magazine slot for the goattt

Kivomo created a topic of The S-Classes That I Raised

Hyunjae and Yoojin shippers will say anything to justify their delusions. Clear once and for all: NOT‑BL ≠ CAN’T HAVE REAL GAY REP. absolutely they can! But huge difference between intentional rep vs vague vibes used just as queerbait for marketing and fandom growth and no confirmation from authors which just show its just queerbait.

Real rep in non‑BL is written so clearly you almost can’t call it friendship. Either romance/attraction is shown openly… or if subtle, THE AUTHOR CONFIRMS IT.

Perfect example: Asoiaf, in the past people were worried characters were being retconned gay but nope. GRRM confirm it years ago that they are gay. Books don’t spell it out fully only cause no POV chapters, so some book readers still read friendship… but we accept it as rep because AUTHOR BACKS IT UP. That’s my standard: respect “implied” queerness only when author confirms it, shows they care about rep, not just playing “maybe‑maybe‑not” to get attention without committing to please their homophobic fans. Leave it hanging forever? Means it was always just friendship… bait for engagement and cash.

Also once again GRRM grew up in way more conservative times than The S‑Classes That I Raised author. His reply to a fan asking
about his choice of including so many gay
characters in Game of Thrones: “Well I noticed there were gay people in the world.” Even back then he acknowledged and more progressive and confirmed openly. THAT’S how real rep works. Not whatever you all delulu is.

Now once again compare to The S‑Classes That I Raised. All those “suspicious moments”? EVERY ONE reads perfectly as deep loyalty, brotherhood, found family, always open to interpretation. YEARS running… author NEVER confirmed romance/queer feelings. THAT’S NOT REP, that’s textbook queerbait and marketed bromance. Deliberate trick: tease us enough to keep us hooked, keep vague enough for mainstream audience to see only friends.

You guys keep saying “shippers keep fandom alive art, trends, sales!” EXACTLY the problem. This blurry dynamic is built ON PURPOSE: max engagement + profit, never alienate anyone. Win‑win for author’s wallet, huge loss for anyone wanting actual queer respect. Years of silence = crystal clear: meant to be close friends all along, bait from day one.

Kivomo created a topic of The S-Classes That I Raised

Since Pride Month’s almost over, time to face it, Hyunjae x Yoojin isn’t canon and never was, never will be a gay pairing. Shippers really need to learn the difference between actual canon and just their own headcanons, yet they act like their ship is 100% real and undeniable. And Then they go and call anti‑shippers homophobic just ‘cause we say what’s true, that this whole thing’s just queerbaiting done for attention and profit. They keep saying shippers keep the fandom relevant, yeah right… it’s nothing more than straight‑coded bromance played up for views. Sorry but your ship isn’t gay content at all, and calling people bigots just ‘cause they use basic common sense? That’s wild.

This isn’t one of those non BL stories that actually has confirmed gay characters, it never was meant to be.

Not being officially written as such means, can be seen as friendship, no author confirmation for yead is NOT representation, simple as that. Also, vague hints don’t equal good rep… they’re just cheap queerbait to make money.

Kivomo created a topic of The S-Classes That I Raised

We really gotta stop letting Hyunjae x Yoojin shippers and shippers in general gaslight us into thinking their whole thing is “just harmless fun” and never hurts the gay community. I wouldn’t even care that much if not for how loud and aggressive they get, cause their behavior doesn’t stay with just them. It feeds straight into bad stereotypes and ends up bringing unnecessary hate toward the whole community.

First off they regularly harass and attack creators just cause the story doesn’t match whatever headcanon they made up. Famous writers like Horikoshi from MHA, the author of Gachiakuta, and loads more have all gotten hate and pressure exactly for that. And when people simply call out their delusions or tell them to just go support actual confirmed gay stories instead? They tell us to go d!3, lash out hard, treat anyone who sees differently like an enemy. This isn’t just one small group in one fandom, it’s the same pattern over and over everywhere. Honestly it’s ironic how their own toxic behavior proves exactly what we keep saying: shipping like this is never just innocent fun like they claim.

They act entitled, pushy and hostile, so when they get called out or face backlash? That’s fully earned. The unfair part is outsiders see all that mess and wrongly lump it together, thinking this is how gay people act. They paint the whole queer community with the same ugly brush just cause of one loud, problematic minority. This shipping culture is honestly one of the most damaging things we deal with. It sidelines and disrespects real proper representation just to feed delusions, strengthens unfair stereotypes, and drags our whole name through the mud for absolutely nothing.

Kivomo created a topic of Tower of God

Dang I forgot about this. I remember it because my tiktok just now suddenly pop up aka showing the anime again for no reason at all. So just gonna read from the start again since I don't have anything to read.

Peakkkkk. Gonna marrinate for moree(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

Kivomo created a topic of The S-Classes That I Raised

Let’s stop letting Hyunjae x yoojin shippers and in general shippers to gaslighting us into believing their shipping is “just harmless fun” and doesn’t hurt the gay community. I wouldn't have gaf if weren't for the fact their aggressive reactions don’t just reflect on them, they fuels stereotype the whole community. Thus bringing hate to the community.

For starters, they regularly harass and attack creators just because the story doesn’t align with their personal delulu. Well-known mangaka like Horikoshi (mha), the author of Gachiakuta, and many others have all faced hate because of shippers. They also tell people who simply call out their delulu behavior and told them to simply just support actual gay stuff to “go die,” and lash out aggressively at anyone who doesn’t see things their way. This isn’t just a small group in one single fandom, it’s a pattern that repeats everywhere. Honestly? It’s almost funny how their own toxic actions only prove our point: shipping is never just for fun harmless as they keep claiming.

They’re entitled, overbearing, and hostile, so when they face hate, it’s completely deserved. The unfair part is that people watch this behavior and wrongly generalize it, assuming all gay act this way. They end up painting the entire queer community with the same negative brush, all because of the actions of this loud, problematic minority. In many ways, this kind of toxic shipping culture is one of the most harmful things we have to deal with, it neglect the genuine representation for deluluness, fuels unfair stereotypes, and gives all of us an undeserved bad reputation for no good reason

Kivomo created a topic of The S-Classes That I Raised

Hyunjae and Yoojin shippers will always doing anything to justify their delulu. Let me make this crystal clear again and for all so there’s no confusion: I never said non‑BL stories can’t have proper, real gay rep, of course they can! But there is a massive difference between actual, intentional gay rep and using vague vibes as queerbaiting for marketing and fandom growth.

Real gay representation in non‑BL stories is framed so intentionally that it leaves almost no room to be misread as “just friendship”. It's either the narrative explicitly shows gay romantic feelings and attraction, or if it’s "implied" the author confirms it themselves.

Take A Song of Ice and Fire as the perfect example. We all remember the worry years ago when Game of Thrones was starting out, with people concerned that this is another changing the sexuality of originally straight characters to gay. But that not the case because straight from the source: George R.R. Martin confirmed years ago that he wrote gay characters. The books don’t spell it out in every detail simply because we never get their POV chap, so it remains implied that can be seen as friendship, but the reason WE accept it as proper gay rep is because the author himself confirmed it. That is the standard I hold: I only take “implied” queerness in non‑BL works seriously when the creator actually backs it up with clear confirmation, it shows they care about genuine gay representation, not just playing with so called "implied" to get attention without ever committing, and obviously leaving it unconfirmed forever which just proves they intend it to be nothing more than a platonic bond between best friends (just want money and fandom relevancy)

Keep in mind too: GRRM is an older writer who grew up in a far more conservative, anti‑LGBTQ+ era than the author of The S‑Classes That I Raised. When asked why he chose to include gay characters in his work, he famously said: “I looked around the world and noticed that gay people were in it.” Even back then, he acknowledge their identity and confirm it directly. That’s how genuine gay rep works.

Now compare that to The S‑Classes That I Raised. All those so‑called “suspicious moments” you all love to point out? Every single one can easily and reasonably be read as deep platonic loyalty, brotherhood, or the strong bond of found family, there is always room to debate it. And it’s been years since the series started, yet the author has never once confirmed any romantic or queer feelings between Hyunjae and Yoojin. That is not representation, that is textbook queerbaiting and marketed bromance. It’s a deliberate choice: play with our desire for good queer stories to keep us hooked, while keeping it vague enough that everyone knows the author actually intends them to be straight friends.


You all keep repeating the same line about how “shippers are the lifeblood of a fandom” and how shipping drives fanart, commissions, trending tags, and sales, and that’s exactly the problem! This sus dynamic is created on purpose: it generates all that engagement and profit, while never alienating the larger audience that prefers to see them as just straight platonic friends. It’s a total win‑win for the author’s earnings, but a huge loss for anyone looking for actual respect for queer stories. This is exactly why we don’t take those “suspicious moments” seriously: years go by with zero confirmation, which makes it crystal clear they were always meant to be just close friends, this is nothing more than queerbaiting. To repeat: I only accept representation in non‑BL works if either the character explicitly states they are gay, their feelings for another man are so clearly romantic there’s no way to twist it into friendship (looking right at Hyunjae and Yoojin once again), or the author directly confirms it instead of leaving it up for debate forever. I don’t care about their “I love you” lines or so called suspicious scenes, they can easily be read as platonic, and the fact that the author has never clarified anything just proves all that vague energy was only ever there to bait people.

Once again, let’s be clear about what we respect: we should absolutely respect authors who write friendship exactly as it is purely platonic from start to finish, with no misleading beats, no ambiguous framing, and who are honest about it. But authors who intentionally add soft, intimate‑seeming, or ambiguous interactions only to tease fans, generate buzz, and keep engagement high, with zero actual plan to ever confirm or develop a queer romance, are not allies. That is just queerbaiting, plain and simple: exploiting our hunger for genuine, meaningful queer stories as a cheap marketing trick. We respect creators who are honest with their audience, not those who play games.

Actual gay stories don’t make you guess forever. This one does. That’s why your deluluness mental gymnastics never change the fact this are not gay and never will be.

Kivomo created a topic of Bleach

I'm bored so just gonna read beach from the start again I guess . Kubo I need the hell arc ╥﹏╥

Just filtered for yaoi and clicked for updates, Peak is finally back!! (≧∀≦) This series totally deserves a proper anime adaptation. It’s still so annoying that Nakamura got one instead, when that only got popular because of a dumb meme.

Definitely gonna reread the whole thing first, then catch up on the new update!

Kivomo created a topic of Abnormal Rommate

Why is this cover so mid? The art style feels so mediocre, especially when we can clearly see seen the author’s other works beside it like their covers for straight/het stories look way better by comparison! There’s not even a synopsis to read, and honestly, we all know covers are usually polished to look nicer than the actual art inside. But even this falls flat. Definitely not up to my standard, so it’s not for me. Solo leveling aka peak action manhwa artstyle literally bring my standard of artstyle to the max

Why do I keep seeing this omegaverse manga popping up lately? Honestly, I don’t want more stories inventing confusing new terms, like those CBL series throwing around words like “enigma” that don’t even make sense. Can we just let that trend die already? Let “sigma” stay what it is: just Gen Z/Alpha slang meaning “awesome,” “cool,” or just a silly joke, not another extra omegaverse category to add to the mix.

It’s time to be honest: A lot of us in the omegaverse fandom are tired of all these unnecessary new labels. We want more actual pairings we rarely get to see! Give us more classic Alpha × Omega, more Alpha × Alpha, and most importantly, finally make some Omega × Omega stories! I have barely ever seen any O×O content. It’s so frustrating that authors keep making up all these fancy new terms and categories, but never bother to explore O×O dynamics. Don’t get me wrong, I still enjoy a good and prefers Alpha × Omega pairing, but where is the love for Omega × Omega? It’s always the same A×O or A×A, and now we’re getting even more random stuff like “enigma” and “sigma” instead of giving us what we’ve actually been asking for.

Kivomo created a topic of Tongari Boushi no Kitchen

Once again Olly x Qifrey shippers, your aggressive reactions don’t just reflect on you, they paint the whole community. Everyone see fans dissecting every single panel, labeling a casual hug, act of care, or confirmed platonic bond as “romantic coding,” insulting anyone who disagrees, and calling people homophobic just because they see the story exactly as it was written. This spreads the harmful stereotype that queer people over‑analyze every interaction, twist basic kindness into romance, and can’t accept deep platonic bonds. Even innocent queer antishippers who only want actual canon representation instead of made‑up interpretations end up lumped in and judged unfairly, even though we never supported this behavior.

Also insultment will never change the fact It actively erases and undermines the real queer representation we already have.

Refusing to listen or engage with facts doesn’t change the truth: Witch Atelier is not a BL or GL series, and the bond between Olly and Qifrey has never been confirmed as romantic. Every line, gesture, or moment you cite as “proof” can easily and reasonably be read as deep platonic love, there’s always room for debate. Once again not gay because no explicit confirmation in the story or author themselves means friendship

Kivomo created a topic of Tongari Boushi no Kitchen

The way shippers of Olly × Qifrey from Witch Atelier lash out and insult antishippers just for stating plain, objective facts only proves exactly how harmful their behavior is to the entire gay community. Throwing around accusations like “homophobic” at anyone who points out these issues doesn’t prove you’re right, it just confirms the point I'm is talking about.

Doubling down on platonic pairings like this feels especially tone‑deaf right now during Pride Month. This is supposed to be a time to center visibility, respect, and honest, intentional queer storytelling, not twist canon bonds to fit personal headcanons like this is non BL, can be seen as friendship, and the author didn't confirm anything. . The harm caused by this trend is very real, and it should never be brushed off as “just harmless fandom fun.”

Kivomo created a topic of The S-Classes That I Raised

Once again, the claim from The S‑Classes That I Raised Hyunjae × Yoojin shippers that this pairing is “gayer than actual queer stories” completely misses the point, and once again it feels especially tone‑deaf right now during Pride Month. This is a time meant to center visibility, respect, and honest, intentional queer storytelling, so it needs to be said clearly: the harm caused by this behavior is very real, and it should never be brushed aside.

The biggest issue is how this trend actively erases and undermines whatever genuine queer representation we already have. Fans pour hundreds of hours, endless creative energy, detailed fanart, paid commissions, official merchandise purchases, event meet‑ups, trending tags, and constant hype into pushing a pairing that was never written as romantic, they are explicitly just friends. Worse, this reduces queer identity to nothing more than a disposable fantasy or a fun headcanon you can tack onto any dynamic.

Even more damaging is how it fuels unfair hostility and harmful stereotypes that stick to all queer people even those of us who are antishippers and only want actual canon representation instead of made‑up interpretations. Outsiders, casual readers, critics, and creators see fans dissecting every single panel, labeling a casual hug or confirmed platonic bond as “romantic coding,” arguing aggressively with anyone who disagrees, spamming comment sections, and even insulting anyone against their ship calling people homophobic or “missing the point” just because they see the relationship exactly as it was written.