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He always knew she was his mate. He hated being a Dragon and hated the destiny he was given. So he denied her and saw her as a weakness. It was only after she died and he lived with insanity for 7 years that he realized his mistake and misunderstood what he was given. I think they worked out because he never ex-edged her to fully forgive him and fully love him. He always knew the past would hurt her and be a scar on her heart. He always apologized and never expected anything in return as long as she stayed with him. She stayed with him because she eventually realized who she was and her past mistakes as well. She ended up meeting him halfway with her feelings cause she realized how truly devoted he was to her in the new life.

i don’t quite get the narrative people are trying to push through just because this is majorly the fl’s pov, but again, i don’t really think that he knew but i had to say he has his own assumption, he never confirmed. he was only sure when she died and that’s when he lost it. regardless, they were never a thing in their past life. she was never considered an official mate and he never took her as one. it’s entirely understandable to be frustrated to what happened to her, but i can’t really see to it that it was only the ml’s fault. they were both at fault for not communicating well enough and letting their rs stale enough be it personal or as a subordinate. then, come to the present life where the fl is supposed to ‘leave’ but all of her actions are opposite to what she’s been preaching. i can’t say she’s stupid but i definitely find it funny. at first, i thought she was just a complex character but then it fell through lol. but well, happy for them regardless, tho the story was quite bland and predictable.

Yeah, I think they are both to blame, I wasn’t only blaming him. Both were in the wrong. But I still stand by that he knew she was his mate, especially after she died. He just refused to accept his Dragon self and believed he didn’t need a mate. It was in his flash backs as he told her his side of the past.

and no i don't see that manchild as pitiful as others see him. maybe on his backstory? but it's quite clear he's already so blinded and won't hear anyone else so why would i pity a man who won't even pity others?? he choose who and what he is and that's on him. lapis is not someone who should be conveniently shipped to him just because it brings that man of a child peace when he can't give that to lapis lol.

i don't think anyone can really heal under arverna's reign. and how is he even meant to heal without realizing the truth. so this is perfect timing to let his perception shatter. also funny that he just appeared out of nowhere after the party is almost over bro you're 2 whole business days late

ikr lol. but i honestly just find it absurd how a man is supposed to feel guilty for lying but not for killing a literal child. even an animal is sympathize, does he even know north and south atp? i also find it irksome having lapis herself to constantly analyze his behavior/trauma just to justify his actions. like are we deadass?? is lapis supposed to be his therapist to be tiptoeing on every interaction? like just go on a vacation and spend time on urself pls why even bother showing up ugh

Fr i felt the intense need to slap him

honestly they do have chemistry it's just my personal preference to not like big women with tiny ass men

there’s also that but i just really can’t see ameri outweighing clara and azz importance for iruma

clara and azz are just friends to him. He has romantic tension only w ameri

yeah lol it’s pretty much canon given how the author is building ameri’s backstory for iruma but then again doesn’t change the fact that I can’t see her outweighing clara and azz importance for iruma. also don’t people find it weird shipping a big matured looking woman over a tiny man? it’s a fetish atp ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I don’t. She just taller than him and more developed, but they’re around the same age. I don’t find it abnormal at all. This author might just like tall women like megan thee stallion lol. I get it tbh

ofc since they’re teenagers. that’s why i said she looked mature for her age looking like in her 20s but even elizabeth with her height looks like a teenager so while you don’t find it weird then I do particularly so, and it’s not helping she’s almost twice the size of iruma which i’m so bothered and idk how you all see it and decided they look good together. i mean salute to you for finding it romantic but not me

Are we forgetting the whole evil cycle arc, or the end of the harvest festival, or the heart breaker arc??? Or CLARA EVIL CYCLE AND AZZ AZZ?

I get youu!! I can't even fathom their relationship being much more than friends, and the way it is I can see that Sullivan, Opera, Azz-azz, and Clara is the most important to him

lol their relationship will be more than friends tho. The relationship that won’t be more than friends is w clara & azz. Ameri inspired iruma to be better, while clara & azz are growing with him at the same pace. Iruma and Ameri will have a strong relationship w each other. They do suit each other very much. Comparing their relationship w clara & azz is weird bc they have different relationships. Y’all are attempting to degrade iruma & ameri’s relationship, but whether yall like it or not, it’s happening and it does make sense lol.

no one’s degrading their relationship? but it’s also right to say that it’s a very weird ship given their dynamic be it physically or emotionally. sorry but ameri’s action sometimes makes me uncomfy that it feels like a grown woman having some thoughts on a kid given that ameri is just a year or 2 older than him. also i think you have it mixed it up, clara and azz inspired iruma to be better. whereas, iruma was more comfy with ameri for the fact that she knows he is a human. lol without that linking them I wouldn’t even say that ameri has that much of influence on him. but then as you said it’s undeniable that the author is giving ameri all the necessary advances to get close to iruma but no I wouldn’t really say it’s reasonable since their chemistry is literally overruled by the trio

Yes, y'all are degrading their relationship by stating that Ameri's relationship with iruma could not be as strong as azz & clara's relationship when they are two completely different relationships. The definition of degrade is to lessen a value often done by comparing, and that's what y'all are doing. Otherwise, where did Ameri come from? Why is Ameri being mentioned when discussing azz & clara's relationship? The purpose is to degrade. Denying doesn't change the fact.

Also, I do not have it mixed up. Iruma has stated and in their moments it showed multiple times that he wants to catch up to Ameri. I'm not saying that azz & clara hasn't helped give iruma the strength to grow, but it was Ameri who inspired him to get stronger. Azz & Clara are the ones getting strong with him.

It doesn't only go for here, but irl too. Men always want what they can't have, or they know is higher than them. It completely does make sense that he will get with Ameri, as she gives him the challenge. They like to be challenged. Besides, y'all argument was about her looks initially when she's just a tall more developed woman... she still around his age. Anyways, clara & azz have a beautiful friendship with iruma and shouldn't be compared with any other relationship he has. Whether y'all like it or not, he will get with Ameri and that does make sense.

okay if pointing out their weird dynamic is degrading then so be it. also lol it’s not just her looks as a grown woman that’s weird but also how she acts almost like a stalker with her so said affection completely nerfing her strong character. now for the betterment thing, lol i think you have once again have it mixed up. while let’s say that ameri is indeed the catalyst for iruma wanting to be strong but she’s not really the main reason no? ameri challenges him to be strong since she’s strong and the embodiment of strength in school whereas, iruma wants to be strong to protect those dear to him especially his friends and this was pretty emphasized on walter part arc where he was so weak that he was needed to be protected by his friend azz. so while ameri might be the benchmark for him to be strong his ultimate reason was just to not be separated with his dear ones. it has already been emphasized many times on the manga how important azz and clara is for him and even to his development. so i pretty much stand on the fact that ameri’s existence won’t outweigh the trio’s bond.


also aren’t you the one degrading the trio’s relationship by constantly saying they’re just friends? it wouldn’t hurt to acknowledge that azz&clara’s importance is so much more that even on times of crisis they’re literally his first main of concern. i know ur an ameri simp but it’s not cool dude lol. you glaze one while discarding another. altho given the recent development the author made, ameri might or not might not be the main interest but it wouldn’t really change my mind how her relationship with iruma is pretty much forced and pretty much find the trio’s dynamic reasonable. i mean she’s a good character but yeah lol i have no fetish on a grown mature looking woman having thoughts on me but it might be different on men tho ..they’re always peculiar? lol

How is saying they’re just friends degrading…? They’re friends lol. Would it be better for me to say soulmates? Well then, the trio are soulmates . Honestly, you’re putting too much value in how she’s drawn. It shouldn’t be that deep. It’s not like she’s sexually harassing him w her body. It’s your preference though. If you don’t like a grown woman body, oh well. She has it though and she’s his age. Those are the laid out facts. What should matter more is her personality than how she’s drawn. You care too much about how she’s drawn…

wait what?? She doesn’t stalk him… If you wanna talk about obsession, there’s literally clara & azz lol. That’s literally why y’all like them so much and how they’re relationship got like this. Hey, why do you say you love Ameri’s character again? Bc for someone that loves a character, you’re viewing her in a very dislikable way. Is it to seem reasonable to then make a claim that you don’t see her w iruma? If so, then that’s not cool and honestly very immature. It’s a common tactic people use to make their opinions more appealing. Lets not do thaaattt. Just say outright u don’t want her w iruma. No need to compare two completely different relationships to feel better about one.

Also, I never said she is the whole reason he wants to get stronger. He definitely wants to get stronger for azz & clara and everyone that’s precious to him. However, since Ameri is the catalyst to that, the one to initiate him wanting to get stronger, that’s a big impact. That establishes a difference in their relationship to others. All this to say, their relationships are different to be compared. It ain’t pretty nor is it fair to do that.

Actually, all this leads to this question. Why does iruma and ameri’s relationship have to outweigh his relationship w azz & clara? Never mind the big fact that they have two completely different relationships to even be put on the same pedestal, why does it bother y’all so much? If it doesn’t, then that’s okay lol. It doesn’t have to. That doesn’t mean it has any effect towards his relationship w Ameri.

she does acts like a stalker sometimes. and if we talk about obessesion isn't ameri one too? right from the start it has always been her with her one-sided affection and you all eat it up because in that way she becomes cute? and since you might not be reading I do like how she's written as a strong character but I do get irk how she is is paired with a tiny man given she's almost twice in height and when standing together they look like a mother and a kid. lol sorry if i find it weird?? maybe if iruma was designed like sabnock I might actually ship them but they just had to do this weird pairing giving like a pdf but they have to make it legal so they are just a year or 2 apart. and if I may say their first few scenes wasn't really that appalling and helping for the so said dynamic. I DO understand the power gap the author is bridging but is it so wrong for me to be uncomfy on how she acts and she is portrayed? lol. maybe the main reason the trio is much more preferred because for all we know it's a form of sanctuary for iruma and his emotional support. so yeah im not being weird for wanting a teenager to actually have a dynamic with those he has much more chemistry. it's also not helping that japan has a thing for an older women so I can pretty much understand the author's choice but lol i find it weird so sorry?

also when did I ever say I like her for iruma? isn't this whole argument because I find their ship weird and forced whereas you find it romantic? I pretty much stated that while I do like how she is a strong character it's giving OOC sometimes with how she acts. tho i pretty much acknowledge that the author is leaning to them (idontknow how many times ive written this since you seem to act blind) buut then again, i find their ship weird and that's me. sorry im not so baited on the preferred 'waifu' you all call her. now, why does it need that ameri needs to outweigh clara and azz's importance? lol would you prefer a man having someone much more important than his so called love interest even outside of his fam? cause right now, if given a choice clara/azz or ameri, it's giving that iruma would likely choose the former.

Now I feel bad for taller women, they can't be ship to whomever because they are tall and mature looking despite their age

I don’t have a problem with Ameri’s “obsession”. You’re the one that brought an obsession as a problem first. I don’t see her as having an obsession w iruma tho bc she doesn’t cling to his side and has a clear goal for herself. She doesn’t base her whole life on Iruma. That’s what I love about her bc she doesn’t stick to his side like glue as if she’ll die from being cm apart from him, and she challenges him to grow stronger. I love that lol. So, yeah, I have to disagree that she has an “obsession” with him. She’s very much normal and
just a girl in love for the first time. Meanwhile, clara & azz clings to iruma every chance they get lol. So yeah, I don’t see where you’re getting “obsession” from her. Much less complaining about her when azz & clara’s obsession w iruma is 10x more lol. It seems to me that you view Ameri’s expressions negatively bc you’re associating it w how she looks, since u already don’t like how she’s drawn like a mature woman.

Besides that, it’s not like I don’t get how you feel about the way she’s drawn compared to iruma. I was also caught offgaurd when I first started reading it, but I just associated it w the fact that she’s a fox demon and it has minimum care to me as long as her personality is bearable and her age isn’t ridiculous. It’s just a drawing lol. Again, it’s not like she’s acting vulgar.

All this to say, I just think you’re putting too much value into how she’s drawn and it’s weird to compare two completely different relationships to degrade another in order to feel better about one.

PS# ? I think you misread lol. I didn’t say you like her for iruma. I can very much tell you don’t

yeah cause why is a literal teenager supposed to be 16 or 17 designed like early to mid 20s paired with a teenager looking boy almost half her size? it's giving predatory atp. i mean it's not my cup of tea but i don't know about you. i'm pretty sure they can just design her normally and there's nothing wrong being tall but they just had to make her a giant girl with voluptuous figure and make her so said lover interest be a tiny man?? sorry but i really do find it weird and no one can convince me otherwise lol. anyone can disagree but i'm pretty sure it's not something to romanticize and yep i don't really see their chemistry that much tho the author might do something about that in the future idk. but i just don't see them good together and i'm bothered by their looks and heights lol

oh go you are misearable.

‘just say outright u don’t want her w iruma’ is what you literally previously stated, so i made it clear that i don’t see her with iruma tho that’s what i’ve been saying since the beginning while i agree that she’s independent and ambitious and doesn’t revolve her entire life around iruma, let’s be real, some of her reactions toward him are pretty intense. i think we’re just using different definitions of “obsession.” she becomes very focused on him quickly, looks for chances to interact with him, and a lot of her scenes highlight how much she anticipates or reacts to him specifically. i’m not saying she’s obsessed in an unhealthy way, just that the way her affection is portrayed early on feels very strong and immediate, even going as far as getting jealous when other girls interact with iruma in some scenes, so yeah this dynamic personally comes off a bit uncomfy and forced to me lol.

also, if clara and azz are being called obsessive because they’re very attached to iruma, then by that same loose definition, ameri’s early intense focus and reactions toward him could also be interpreted that way too, no? good for you if you enjoyed it tho lol

‘just say outright u don’t want her w iruma’ is what you literally previously stated, so i made it clear that i don’t see her with iruma tho that’s what i’ve been saying since the beginning while i agree that she’s independent and ambitious and doesn’t revolve her entire life around iruma, let’s be real, some of her reactions toward him are pretty intense. i think we’re just using different definitions of “obsession.” she becomes very focused on him quickly, looks for chances to interact with him, and a lot of her scenes highlight how much she anticipates or reacts to him specifically. i’m not saying she’s obsessed in an unhealthy way, just that the way her affection is portrayed early on feels very strong and immediate, even going as far as getting jealous when other girls interact with iruma in some scenes, so yeah this dynamic personally comes off a bit uncomfy and forced to me lol.

also, if clara and azz are being called obsessive because they’re very attached to iruma, then by that same loose definition, ameri’s early intense focus and reactions toward him could also be interpreted that way too, no? good for you if you enjoyed it tho lol

and when did i bring 'obsession' first? if not you bringing it out of context and suddenly comparing it with azz/clara's action, would i even bother stating that ameri is just as obsessed? lol you need to start rereading your replies

damn u guys still going

lol i just touch grass and is actually bothered by a weird dynamic which you all simp and romanticize,,,and normalize

“ but also how she acts almost like a stalker with her so said affection completely nerfing her strong character.” is when you mentioned obsession. To be a stalker you have to be obsessed w the person first.

Also, all that you described is normal lol. Her “becoming focused on him” is normal… her looking for chances to interact w him is normal. How she reacts to him is normal. Her getting jealous, all of that is normal for a girl falling in love for the first time lol. Obsession is unhealthy. There’s no “good obsession”. None of that gives obsession. Did she:

1. Follow Iruma home or wherever he goes bc she can’t stand being away from him? No
2. Did she ever act on that jealousy and attempt to harm the girls? No
3. Does she try to manipulate Iruma to make her his focus? No
4. Is her only goal in life rn is to become the only person Iruma NEEDS rn? No

It only becomes an obsession when it reaches to the point that she goes over and beyond with her emotions by either attempting to cling to him every chance she gets, blackmailing/ find a way to keep him stuck to her, unhealthy jealousy that she attempts to do anything to keep Iruma from looking at them, and etc. My girl don’t do any of that and she has her own goals. I love it bc it’s so rare to see these types of heroines in these type of mangas. Sooooo don’t do my girl like that lol. She ain’t obsessive nor is she a stalker, and I don’t like heroines who are obsessed w the mc as it feels embarrassing for me to see, so you can’t tell me she is. You’re exaggerating by painting her in a bad light bc u already don’t like her.

It’s okay that you don’t like her buuuut don’t be doing too much as to exaggerate her character lol. Then you say you LOVE her as a character?

ugh did i even describe her as obsessed in clinical sense? well sorry that i find some of her behavior and reactions uncomfy lol. you read it as normal first love behavior, but to me it feels more intense and weird, especially given the dynamic visually and emotionally where they're not the same. so i stand with my ground that the the ship doesn’t work for me and comes forced.

i’m not even saying she’s a bad character or that people are wrong for liking her but it's safe to say with how she is designed and portrayed when infatuated is just too uncomfy in many sense to me. so yes, i interpret the dynamic differently with however you view it. liking her as a strong character and still finding her romantic portrayal with iruma off-putting can exist at the same time. like dude does it hurt your ego that much that I don't ship her with iruma and prefer the found-family trope of the trio? im pretty sure i'm not obligated to view her ship with iruma in good light

Obsessed in a clinical sense? I mean, yeah… you called her a stalker lol. Stalker = go to the clinic . I have no problem w you not liking Ameri w iruma, but what dislike is that compare you her w his relationship w azz & clara, lie saying you love her character, and make claims about her that aren’t true. If u post such a comment, expect some backlash and enjoy it lol. Ngl I’m enjoying this. Yes, it makes no sense for you to say you love her as a character but then complain about aspects of her, which you’re exaggerating, bc all of those aspects are her. You can like qualities of a character you dislike, but a character you like? I mean, that’s more strict bc how in the word can you come to like a character or someone w many dislikes about her? More than one is too many lol. It just makes no sense. Your first statement was that you love her character, but your impression of her doesn’t match that statement, and love is a stronger word than like. So you didn’t even start off honestly. Where you went wrong is:

lie
1. Stating you like something to the follow up w u don’t like that something to be paired w something you do like. That is a common tactic to make their opinion more appealing as they seem “reasonable” like this when it’s not at all.

compare
2. Comparing two different relationships to feel better about one, which is very degrading. What you wanted to do was put the relationship u prefer on a pedestal over another.

exaggerate
3. Then exaggerating her character w how she expresses her affection to iruma and complain about her drawing to prove a point.

Those are the tactics you used. All that ain’t cool. It would have been better if you were completely honest w urself just say you dislike Ameri bc of her drawing and etc. alone, or state how much u prefer azz & clara w iruma. All this w/o mentioning Ameri attempting to degrade her relationship w iruma. They did not need to be in the same sentence.

Finally, I rest my case. This was fun tho ngl lol

i think we’re talking past each other at this point notice how I didn't say she's really a stalker but said she acts almost like a stalker from my perspective? lol. that wasn’t a clinical diagnosis or me claiming she’s mentally unhealthy. it was more describing how some of her behaviors come across to me uncomfy as a viewer. interpretation isn’t the same thing as lying or exaggerating. cause bfr the dynamic you're so fond of is like sabnock and chima, notice how much they differ in height and visual dynamic?? now, imagine sabnock acting like ameri towards chima, it's pretty weird no matter how i see it lol. and isn't it not a fact that ameri sometimes over-exerts herself towards iruma? atleast from the trio it comes off as consensual since iruma is actually reciprocating it but some of ameri's form of affection atp is just one-sided tho it might develop more in the future.

and again liking a character doesn’t mean liking every aspect of how they’re written. i can genuinely like ameri as a strong, capable character while still finding her romantic portrayal with iruma uncomfortable or weakening parts of what i enjoy about her. those two things can coexist. if you can't accept that, that's also so not cool dudee

PS# "It would have been better if you were completely honest w urself just say you dislike Ameri bc of her drawing and etc. alone, or state how much u prefer azz & clara w iruma. All this w/o mentioning Ameri attempting to degrade her relationship w iruma. They did not need to be in the same sentence"

dude, i've literally been honest from the start? I like ameri as an individual but im so weirded out on her design given that she is paired with a man almost half her size and just don’t personally enjoy her romantic dynamic with iruma. also i pretty much just stated at first that their dynamic comes forced and prefer either in the trio and you could also have also chosen not to comment but you had to be so hurt that i didn't like their dynamic and gave all these reason and that's also what i did??

but yeah lol i think we’re just not going to interpret the same scenes the same way, so it’s probably better to leave it here HAHAHAH

“I didn’t say she’s really a stalker, i said she almost acts like a stalker” …

NOOO the rest of my comment got deleted . Man I wish mangago just delete the emoji rather than all that follows it. I was giving you good (most likely unwanted but DEFINITELY NEEDED) advice bc we really could have laughed at the end of this. I was more in detailed but i no longer feel like it… basically, I was suggesting for you to focus on this aspect I’ve noticed through out this comment section, which is that you seem to still need to learn how to take accountability well. Focus on mastering that, and when you do you go far and start finding things, like this discussion we’re having, funny lol. You start not taking things too seriously. Half admitting isn’t fully taking accountability either. When you fully take it, you become stronger. Just sayin.

but what accountability tho? i genuinely meant every part of my opinion. i was clear that the dynamic just doesn’t work for me personally and comes forced right from the start. tho i might say im not one to easily back down on an argument especially if i wholeheartedly believe in my own reasoning (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

and i pretty much acknowledge that with the author's recent work, ameri might or might not be the main interest and i didn't deny that, what i mostly did was counter argue and gave reason how the dynamic is weird and forced for me. the story may be heading in different directions, but my opinion on it being uncomfy hasn’t changed, so i don't see the need for me to take accountability?