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Yeah, this mindset of hers really puts me off, but im sure there are many adopted kids that feel the same way she does and we have to remember adults aren't the only ones who read these manhwas. A teen girl reading this story and seeing herself in the FL as she deals with the trauma bit by bit throughout the story might help (in theory)...

We see the FL was so insecure that she was adopted that she saw every little thing her parents did as a subtle way of saying they didn't love her as much as her sister, so piling everything they "did" over the years, it will take some time for her to come to terms with reality

Her parents didn't neglect her, she knows that too. One of her greater fears is that they kept her out of pity instead of actual love. That's why she tries her best to not be burden and never complains. She took the fire thing when they she didn't hear them call for her as their subconscious answer of whether they actually loved her as a daughter or a charity case.

And tbh I don't think they didn't call her name or search for she just didn't hear it when the fire was everywhere.

That's still her fault. Trauma is one thing, and we are responsible no matter we like it or not to heal ourselves. She could've gone to therapy, get better, get some genuinely nice friends. It was for plot sake I understand that, but her trauma could've been something deeper and different is what I think.

Her trauma pf hers is so shallow and fake. She didn't show that at first and out of nowhere it popped up. I understand that everyone has different traumas and it hits different to each but that doesn't mean she isn't annoying tho.

She doesn't mind sticking on "orphans are replaceable and aren't genuinely loved" but not on how ML could also abandon her as he could fall for other women or his previous lover. her past is over, her parents have moved on, she's in different world now. She has a curse rn and a husband to look out for in case he cheats (they met for a short while and married even shorter time so doubting him is valid) but instead she is focused on her non existent past now. Like gurl, come on. you cannot be this weak. imagine focusing on your shallow trauma when you can die at my moment.

Are we now giving trauma rates for approval? Excuse me do you hear yourself?

Not trauma rates. I just want her to remember she has more important things to prioritise rather than focusing on her traumas, and asking stupid questions like "orphans can never be loved like own children". she's an adult for god's sake. Be mature is what I want to tell her. And anyways, I wrote so much and u decided to focus on one thing?

I didn't write much because I didn't like you down playing something called trauma. Everyone proces life differently. Mc practically brainwashed herself into that mentality even before meeting the adored parents, remember how she led about her age too? So dating that becoming an adult gives a person the discretion to get out of a great they have never articulated not even once to anyone is so out of touch I deliberately ignored it, thinking you were rage baiting

I didn't write much because I didn't like you down playing something called trauma. Everyone processes life differently. Mc practically brainwashed herself into that mentality even before meeting the adopted parents, remember how she lied about her age too? So saying that becoming an adult gives a person the discretion to get out of a fear they have never articulated not even once to anyone, is so out of touch I deliberately ignored it, thinking you were rage baiting

"brainwashed" herself, yes, that's why she needs therapy. i apologise if I came across as downplaying the trauma but seriously, just because she doesn't have anyone to talk about it or has never experienced true love doesn't mean she should remain like that tho. her trauma is one thing and her saying other orphans aren't genuinely loved is another thing which is offensive. I understand her trauma, but as an adult, you need to take responsibility for yourself.

She's not a child anymore is she. if she harms anyone or herself, who's responsible? Herself. Because she was clearly in a position to get better in her og world but she hasn't. And anyways, after experiencing phases while becoming an adult, reading novels and various media literature and videos and stuff, who still thinks adopted children aren't genuinely loved or seen as own children? I'm sorry if it sounds harsh from me but it's just stupid and so dumb of her

Where did she say they were not loved? She wanted to see them react just like her, unloved. The reason is denial, why? Because if they are loved while being adopted, to her that means she's the problem as a person not just simply blood relations. She had also found herself in the girl the old man told her was always trying to be a good girl. So when the girl who was mostly like her knew she was loved, mc felt inadequate and shame.
Because that means her belief is being shaken
And I'd like to say mc is what? A college student? She's not that old yet to shake of her trauma yet.
Mc is not disregarding the old man's love, she wanted to see children who were loved mot know they were loved. Just like her

I was actually planning to just sit back, enjoy the trainwreck development of this trashy boring Manhua, and ignore your post. But looking at how much of a validation seeker you are by making a whole new thread instead of replying to me directly, I felt the need to set things straight, let me help you understand something.

First of all, you are committing a classic strawman fallacy. When a reader calls a trope "typical" or "boring", they are criticizing the writer’s lack of creativity and poor execution, not dismissing the gravity of real world trauma. Anyone with basic reading comprehension can differentiate between real world social issues and lazy fictional writing. Mixing them up just to accuse someone of being "dangerously indifferent" is a huge stretch.

It’s also highly ironic how you preach about how "fiction affects you" and accuse me of being "insensitive," yet in the exact same breath, you comfortably defend a story where a thin child is sexualized. Talk about hypocrisy.

I don't mind dark themes, I just hate trashy and boring stories. If you enjoy poorly written shock value fiction, that’s your preference. But calling someone "dumb" just because they expect better narrative quality?

Dumb, fuck you too

You expect me to read your mind or what for you

"standards" of basic reading comprehension isn't the same. When someone replies they are automatically attention seeker? Whatever, replying to u is a waste of time. Dumb bitch, fuck you too.

Aww, look who completely ran out of arguments and threw a tantrum. And here I thought you liked debating. Thanks for proving my point about your basic reading comprehension. I win, you lose. Stay mad, loser. Bye, bitch!

Did u even debate in the first place?? Your argument on how typical MC's past was idiotic tbh. What's typical about it? His past is quite a rarity in manhwas. I said fuck u to haters, why did u got triggered by it? It's always this dumb fucks, I shouldn't have bothered to reply to a hater in the first place. Always wastes my time

First off all, the irony of you saying "always wastes my time" for the third time, after explicitly saying you were done replying is hilarious. You keep coming back because your sensitive ego is triggered and can't handle being called out.

Let's lay down the facts. I DID debate you by pointing out your classic strawman fallacy (and ad hominem, too), but clearly, it flew right over your head. You still cannot comprehend that calling a trope "typical" means the author's narrative execution is lazy and unoriginal. If you genuinely think stacking trauma like a checklist: bullying, suicidal thoughts, abusive/neglectful parents, serial killers target, is a "rarity" in fiction, then you just exposed how painfully limited your reading exposure actually is. Tragedy/trauma porn are literally the cheapest, most overused gimmicks in edgy, trashy Manhwa/Manhua (literally all fiction) to force instant sympathy without giving the character any actual depth.

But what the funniest part? How you completely dodged your own hypocrisy. You tried to lecture me about moral sensitivity and "indifference to real world trauma," yet you literally praised a story that fetishizes, sexualizes, and romanticization of a thin child exploitation as a "great read." You don't care about trauma or moral values. You just care about defending your trashy fave.

And honestly, if you really think I'm just a "hater" wasting your time, you can stop replying anytime. Nobody is forcing you to keep coming back with the same tantrums: "fuck you bitch," "dumb hater," blah blah blah.

Get well soon, idiot.

Whatever makes you sleep at night. You haven't understood my words at all, u misunderstood or it's just that your basic reading comprehension skills is so trashy that unless I directly explain word to word u can't understand.

Just because I keep replying to you doesn't mean my ego or I feel called out. Why do u keep replying too? To you, u probably don't feel called out, u just wanna put your opinions forth.

That's the same with me.

And you ARE a hater tho. You literally wrote in ur first comment that u hate this story in the first sentence. U don't need to justify why u hate it, it's completely your preference. But u keep saying that the story is trash as a FACT. Calling it lazy writing, poor execution and all of that as facts.

Which changes the whole thing.

And anyways, if I enjoy this story and call it Great, does it automatically means I love the story for it's romnatisation or fetisization? Are u an idiot? I can love a story for IT'S PLOT and not the sex, bruh.

Even if I lay out all the reasons why your comment is extremely unnecessary and why his trauma isn't typical, u will never understand anyways. People like u think they are always right and stuff. I hold minimum expectations with haters anyways.

Also, In debate people don't insult each other which is unrelated to the topic. When I called u dumb at first, that's true tho. Ur a bitch too, proven by your behaviour and way of talking.

U are missing out on a great story like this.

Whatever makes you sleep at night. You haven't understood my words at all, u misunderstood or it's just that your basic reading comprehension skills is so trashy that unless I directly explain word to word u can't understand.

Just because I keep replying to you doesn't mean my ego or I feel called out. Why do u keep replying too? To you, u probably don't feel called out, u just wanna put your opinions forth.

That's the same with me.

And you ARE a hater tho. You literally wrote in ur first comment that u hate this story in the first sentence. U don't need to justify why u hate it, it's completely your preference. But u keep saying that the story is trash as a FACT.

Which changes the whole thing.
Just because I like this story automatically means I like the age gap, romnatisation and whatever u said? Have u even read the whole story? U totally reduced it to "Fetisization, romnatisation, exploitation".

Even if I lay out all the reasons why your comment is extremely unnecessary and why his trauma isn't typical, u will never understand anyways. People like u think they are always right and stuff. I hold minimum expectations with haters anyways.

Also, In debate people don't insult each other which is unrelated to the topic. When I called u dumb at first, that's true tho. Ur a bitch too, proven by your behaviour and way of talking.

U are missing out on a great story like this, how it feels like hating on a story like this? I certainly don't know bruh

Yeah it made me feel so uncomfortable when I saw the subtle meaning in those scenes. Its so sad that he has to take the fall for such a scumbag and have to deal with beatings and assault

This!!!! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ its like There! No erect dick and tears and remorse! Thats what damn rape and i hate the mentioned manwas where the mc got raped and feeling lust cause the mc has a big dick!

Kindred spirits, here we met finally . You should go read the dog bites dog comment section and see how fucked up everyone are there. Nobody gave a fuck about the MC's suffering and only listed after his looks and others. One even commented to let her enter the cell where everyone raped the MC like brooo tf?!

where is the empathy? Is it gone from the World???
Thats so fucked up... i still read and wonder how the author will turn the Story so the mc and ml are going to start the shit New.. but hoping for rape? Cheer for it? Porn did the world nothing good

Probs a hot take but I didn’t think the Jinx scenes were rape? Maybe before their contract was clear, yeah, but after I don’t think so? Like Kim Dan was treated like shit but that doesn’t mean he did not consent to it after he knew about the true meaning of his contract. What happened to Leewon in Roses and Champagne def was rape tho. Like that man was being kidnapped, manhandled, and shot at in that story.

I think that is too simple a mindset to have about rape. Not all rape is going to be extremely violent, sometimes is can be basically normal sex in all ways but consent. Rather than say rape should never be shown beautifully or with pretty art, it is more important to always show the fallout from those events, because that is never "beautiful."

All I know is, 99.99% of these stories are completely fiction, I don't lose sleep over shitty things that happen in fiction when there are real problems in the world.

I didn't meant how the rape looks. Is it violent or not. I meant that it should be drawn realistically, focusing on the victim's pain rather than focusing on beautifying the art.