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gonna just yap about what pmo about this story LMAO

idk about you all, but MC pisses me off so bad. sure, ML is taking it too far, and thats inexcusable, but holy shit it really gets to a point and I can understand his frustration. hell, *I* come from a family who struggles financially, even as a 22 year old. so I can say I get why he’s so anxious about taking money, but when your LITERAL PARTNER is FULLY OFFERING, NO STRINGS ATTACHED purely because they want to support you, will be responsible, and is stubborn about it, TAKE THE DAMN HELP. I hate that pride BS. I hate taking money and gifts from people, but I at least accept it when the other person really wants to give it. Having your kindness, support, and gifts be constantly turned down does hurt. A relationship comes with transactions, thats natural. From financial support down to simple chores. All that “he wants to tie me down with his money!!” shit is so ridiculous. Like DUH, HES YOUR BOYFRIEND!!!! THAT INHERENTLY MEANS BEING TIED DOWN!!! Nobody likes being in a relationship with someone who only thinks about breaking up. If you don’t think you’ll last, why even stay in the first place? It’s insufferable. Just think about the present. Also, it’s so contradictory to worry about “being tied down” since he’s so infatuated, yet worrying he’ll dump you???? It’s so confusing dude, just pick one. This is such a hard read since they keep going back and forth over the same shit over and over and i can understand both their views to an extent, yet MC is just plain stupid. Honestly. If i were ML, i’d be pretty frustrated too atp

Waited ages for the new chapters only to be blessed with an improved art style, a more daring Danwoo, and a hopeless head-over-heels Taehan. I’m eating good

Its the fact that he can literally sue, or press charges at the very least, against this fucker since, as that other guy said, what this bitch is doing is a direct violation of hybrid rights. the fuckass eyesore would easily lose. but the author obviously isnt thinking about tgat logic and just wants this halfassed, cliched drama. i do hope he gets whats coming to him soon at least

I just now noticed this has been removed from my reading list thanks to when Mangago shit itself and removed our lists. Give’s me an excuse to reread, I guess :P

I’m quite late to this story but I’m providing my opinion anyway haha. This was clearly made my an amateur who wanted to do something “unique” without doing proper research. I can point out so many flaws, especially as a person with p-DID myself. The portrayal of DID in this might be one of the worst, if not THE worst representations I’ve seen in BL. It was halfassed, rushed, and completely contributes to the stigmatization of DID and dissociative disorders as a whole. The evil alter stereotype? “Disappearing forever?” Can’t find information for the disorder? It’s all poorly done, incorrect, and just plain bad. Not to mention how awful Yirong and Zhen’s relationship is. There’s NO way someone who was borderline abused, kidnapped, and treated so poorly would be madly in love with their partner. 1/10.

Dont fucking piss me off rn. “Not a troll update this time uwu i swear ! >.<“ and its NOT EVEN THE RIGHT CHAPTER. get off my toxic yaoi rn I swear

so we all know there’s a camera? lmaooo we’ve played these games before

This is such an interesting way to portray DID. As someone with p-DID, I really enjoy it. Fear of final fusion, part’s having their roles and triggers, explanations for how each part split, internal conflicts, different behaviours and tastes, traumatic origin (although DID and other dissociative disorders form in childhood, at least this portrays the traumagenic formation and not just something slightly tragic), unknown alters, amnesia, blendy switches, CPTSD symptoms, switches, headspace, voices, etc. The author did a really good job using DID in this context. Although yes, of course, it’s fetish content, they at least had the decency to properly incorporate realism into it.

This will be quite long, but I’ll explain these for people who are unfamiliar with DID and how accurate Mugo is, in the order I listed them in.

— Final fusion: Although *some* systems will want final fusion, not every system does. Final fusion is the term for when all members of a system merge into one through extensive therapy. Though they become one, there’s always the risk of splitting again. It’s just the way the brain developed, there is no cure. Without wanting this, alters usually fear merging. It genuinely feels like you’re losing yourself. So all three Mugos fearing merging and wishing to be separate is a common experience.
— Roles and triggers: Every alter is split off for a reason, though not every alter will know exactly why. Their roles can range from being the Host (main fronter), Gatekeeper (in charge, usually of memories and who has access to headspace), or maybe just to relieve stress or clean a room. Triggers to front can include what they like, the need to fulfill their role, or someone they know being nearby. The Mugos having these traits is super realistic and a nice touch that these stories miss out on.
— Split origin: The brain splits off a new part, or “alter”, for whatever it deems necessary. When DID originally forms, the brain puts up amnesic barriers around the ego states or “personalities” of a child. This creates the alters, who have the purpose to block the memories from the host as the brain deemed it too traumatic and it’s necessary for the host to lack these memories for their survival. Certain parts will take front for the abuse while the host is outside front, which is why most system hosts don’t recall most, if any, of their childhood. The Mugos splitting to experience certain parts of the trauma and protecting others is extremely realistic, aside from the fact they weren’t a child.
— Internal conflicts: Not all alters will like each other, or like things the current fronter does. They often have arguments or might even harm each other. Non-systems will, for some reason, think this is funny. But it’s not. It’s quite damaging and is just like any other relationship, inside or outside your head. I like the dynamics between each Mugo.
— Different behaviours and tastes: Each alter, in a DID, p-DID, or OSDD-1b system all have their own personalities, likes, and dislikes. Each Mugo having different personalities, behaviours, likes, dislikes, opinions… perfect.
— Traumagenic origin: As I’ve already explained, a person develops a dissociative disorder from something the brain deemed to be too traumatic for one person to process. The point in which this happened for the Mugos was the torture and abuse they’ve endured. This caused their brain to put up amnesic barriers which created each part. Protecting Monster Mugo, allowing Lord Mugo to suffer afterwards in the dark, and Sir Mugo afterwards. I have two theories for Lee Muhan; one being he was the original host, and the other three split off him. The second being that their brain split him in the image of the original host, as a holder of their earlier memories, but this occurred secretly.
— Unknown alters: And my last point leads into this; the brain will split off alters and the host will not know until they are introduced/meet. You never really truly know how many alters your system has UNLESS there is an alter whose role is literally to know and count them. I’ve known systems whose alters will randomly find new alters hiding inside headspace. Like in closets or unknown rooms. This is a complex topic that I won’t discuss here.
— Amnesia: Since the brain created this system due to putting up amnesic barriers, most alter’s in DID, p-DID, and OSDD-1a systems will experience amnesia. The lack or partial inability to recall memories from the experiences of other alters. If one alter was in front all day and did the chores, the next alter who fronts will not have any memory of the previous day or the chores. Though sometimes it’s just lack of remembering feelings, thoughts, or some moments from the memory. I recommend looking into this topic separately. It’s vaguely mentioned that the Mugos will often lack some or all memories between each other. Or used to anyway.
— Blendy switches: Sometimes, when multiple alters are in front, it gets hard to tell who is there and they kinda just, blend together while they’re in front. Seeing this behaviour in the Mugo’s is quite refreshing. Not a lot of media represents this part.
— CPTSD symptoms: Since dissociative disorders are formed due to complex childhood trauma, the disorder naturally coexists with CPTSD. Which means it also comes with the anxiety, breakdowns, fear of remembering, repressed memories, breakdowns upon remembering, cold sweats, etc. Other manwha I’ve read often don’t include this (but they often don’t make it as traumagetic either), so seeing this realistic part in the Mugos is great.
— Switches: the act of different alters taking front, or the control of the body. Although here, its exaggerated for the sake of the story, slight differences in appearance between alters is a real part of being a system. Some alters need glasses, some have horrible posture, joint issues, etc. This is because alters will each activate different parts of the brain and will use muscles differently from each other. So Sir Mugo having glasses while the other two don’t is completely natural.
— Headspace: The headspace or “inner world” is the space inside where alters stay. Some systems lack this, but a good majority will have a complex interior environment for themselves to live in while they’re not in front. It could look anything like a single room, a small house, a mansion, maybe even a world or universe. It all depends on the system. Sometimes they have specific alters whose role is to be an architect or some kind of neighbourhood watch. Most manwha, if not all, that I’ve read have the character who’s a system just completely lack an inner world and instead just float inside some void. So the Mugo’s having little rooms or the staircase, and even the small space for Lee Muhan is just. Chefs kiss.
— “Voices”: Another thing I don’t usually see. Alters having conversations not just internally (which a lot of things make this occur while they’re unconscious????) but out loud too. This is amazing representation. Most systems I’ve met, including myself, will often talk out loud to the other’s, whether they’re responding internally or externally. I’ll sometimes ask things out loud and someone else will respond out loud lol.

This was probably an unnecessary yap fest, but I really am fascinated by this author’s interpretation of DID and how they portrayed it in this setting while still accurately representing a lot of aspects that most stories skip or lack altogether. It’s a super peak find and although it has its own flaws, it’s probably one of the best I’ve found. And now I feel inclined to make a list of stories with dissociative disorder representation. Bad or not, some of us wish to be seen in more media. If you stuck around and read all this, kudos to you! Thank you for reading:)

Sir Mugo really making me feel things. I’m a sucker for men like him hehe

Ah, so it is going the “original part” route, as to be expected. It’s an outdated concept and isn’t what’s thought to be true anymore.
And considering they’re both Hosu and share memories, I can now say it’s more UDD (unspecified dissociative disorder) rather than DID.
I’ve already yapped last chapter but I’m doing it again anyway.
Simply put, for a dissociative disorder to diagnosed as DID, the system needs to meet two requirements:
1. Alters/parts have their own identities. Such as personalities, names, gender expression, sexuality, preferences, and anything that makes a person unique. Of course, not every part will meet this requirement, but in smaller systems of 2-10, usually they all do.
2. At least one of the alters/parts will experience blackout amnesia. The lack of memory while they aren’t in front.
As of this chapter (ch.14), it’s expressed that neither of these are the case. I previously expected at least the second to be true, since Moran mentioned it’d appear that Hosu does forget, despite later saying Hosu doesn’t experience memory loss, but it seems the ladder of the two is true.