all the signs pointing towards a joowon and haesoo endgame we love to see it :D
as of now uncle pan doesn't deserve qiu he hurt him and he played him so he needs to work hard and maybe suffer a little before he can win back qui's heart. he needs to apologize first and I want a genuine apology not sth half assed or rushed. if they're gonna make it happen uncle pan needs to come clean and be honest with qiu and his own feelings. i really do want them together and eventho its a manhwa I still want character development i want to see it like how a real couple would solve this problem.
a relationship being built on lies, pity and toxicity. congratulations once again you're back at square one haesoo. when will haesoo have the balls to say no and to stand his ground. he's easily being swayed by taku bcs haesoo is weak and he needs to love himself first before he steps into a relationship. We all know taku is a manipulative creep but at least haesoo should make the decisions himself and not let someone make them for him. I'm glad if joowon and haesoo don't end up together bcs haesoo doesn't deserve joowon he wants to have both men bcs he's insecure af. Yeah its mainly his mom's fault but he's an adult for fcks sake. He can't even stand up to his own mom how am I supposed to take him serious. I used to feel bad for him but c'mon its been 70 chapters and theres zero character development for him he's not moving forward but keeps making the same mistakes. Haesoo and taku together will not work bcs neither of them love each other. Haesoo will only be with him bcs he sees his younger self in him and he pities taku. While taku does not love haesoo he just loves the idea of having haesoo. I love the art but the drama getting too much and its tiring. I just wanna know the ending bcs they've been dragging this for way too long. I just want to know if joowon gets a happy ending thats all. And he better have one.
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why this comment have so many downvotes???? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Because Taku Stan's are childlish. They dislike anything which is even neutral about Joowon.
It's just a weirdo with 27373 accounts or something don't mind them lol
cuz we hate fishy pussy
Cuz OP breath smells like the cheese under Joowon's balls.
the difference between joowon accepting that he is "out of the picture" and him telling haesoo he will always be there for him, as a friend as a hyung he is haesoo's. vs taku manipulating haesoo into stepping in a relationship with him by saying "if you care abt me even a little kiss me" i think these two particular scenes show who actually has good intentions and who cares abt haesoo. Taku doesn't give haesoo space and manipulates his way into making haesoo come to him, but joowon despite how much haesoo broke his heart he never asked haesoo to go back to him or force him to make a choice he respected him by also not contacting haesoo at all to give him space. taku may read a guide how to get to know haesoo. But joowon was always beside haesoo. For ten years. Not even taku's manipulation will be enough to break a ten year love.
Nobody can take you serious, you're fucking obsessed with Joowon.
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Can you stop spamming their threads? You spam this whole comment section and don't have anything interesting to say.
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I think it's a character growth for Joowon. Yes he never forced anything but he was at Haesoo's throat every time. So to actually give Haesoo space and letting him go is I consider a growth.
And Taku being openly manipulative is refreshing to me vs him stealthily doing it. Whether it's a good or bad thing, it fulfills Haesoo's desire for an obsessive love. At the same time it proves how much Haesoo cares for Joowon that he doesn't want to drag Joowon in his complexes while Taku's fine.
then what was that whole dinner about as soon as he smelled like he's gonna lose haesoo, picking up a fight and throwing a whole tantrum there , then force a kiss on haesoo as soon as they were about to talk, joowon IS toxic yall seem to forget too fast, the way we're seeing him rn is that he's growing and i love seeing it, except for the part that he's still unhappy!
Yes joowon's dad also wants to separate then but he wasn't as dramatic and disgusted about it like haesoo's mom was. Joowon's dad just let them be and subtly tried to break them apart but he wasn't forceful like the mom. And keep in mind the whole reason why things never worked out between joowon and haesoo was because the mom was so against it and she said it was disgusting she blamed them for the failure of her marriage and she dislikes joowon she guilt trips haesoo and the main reason why haesoo is so insecure with himself is bcs of his mom. If the mom didn't have such a dramatic reaction and actually tried to communicate with them and brought the whole family together to try to talk it out, the damage wouldn't be as big and haesoo and joowon would understand and they would separate without any hard feelings. like they didn't plan to fall in love it just happened and they were each other's first. And your parents are always the first ones to turn to when something is bothering you. But in their case not even their parents supported them and I understand but it didnt have to be as cruel as how it happened. Their first love was a strong one but its forbidden. Its sad that they just want to be together but they can't bcs everyone is against them. I believe they will eventually find each other again bcs their love never ended. Its stayed strong in all those ten years. A ten year love will never fade. So I believe haesoo and joowon belong together. They are had their own faults but it wasn't fair to them. They just fell in love and bcs of their love I know these two are endgame.
because of this reason They gonna end up together
Taku and Haesoo can be together whenever they want but They didn't
Taku force him to point break but the minute Haseo mom talk to his son its gonna end
I really believe Haeso mom gonna cancel her weeding and let Jowoon and Haesoo be together
Haeso mom is the key
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Haesoo and joowon "fought" few days ago and then never contacted each other after. and look how both of them were after hearing each other's voice finally after so long. Haesoo and joowon were both about to cry from all those emotions. There was so much to say. The "I love yous" the "I miss yous" were on the tip of their tongue but neither of them said it even the amount of times haesoo said "im sorry" he kept it for himself but kept repeating it in his head. Both of them regret their stupid "fight". this whole chapter shows haesoo and joowon love each other so much it hurts. They want to be together but so many things are in the way. Its not simple and its sad that it happened to them bcs they really can't live without each other. Joowon saying he's always by haesoo side as a friend a hyung and that he is haesoo's. This makes me cry bcs joowon accepted that haesoo stopped whatever they had and now told him he'll always be with him no matter in what way. Joowon worries for haesoo. He doesnt want him to get hurt joowon knows what it means to be in the public eye. That's why he always kept haesoo away from the cameras. And he knows the general public can be real assholes so be eas worried for him. Joowon is still haesoo's hyung and he will always take care of him. That will never change. Just like their love for each other. Anyone can tell you these two hate eo but if you really read the manhwa you can tell yourself if they love eo or not.
so taku wants to push joowon away from haesoo's life??? Lmao who does he even think he is. He's not with haesoo but he goes around telling joowon they're together bc he's insecure. They're not even together so what gives him any right to decide if joowon should stay in haesoo's life or not. Thats not his decision to make thats haesoo's. Taku wants to push joowon away who has been by haesoo's side for 10 freaking years while he just only knows haesoo for couple of months and already acts like he owns him. Taku doesn't respect haesoo's decisions of him deciding to have a break from dating. He wants haesoo and he wants an answer immediately. He said wants them to be together and it doesn't have to be love???? if any of you don't see how fcking toxic it is. Like what else is the reason why ppl end up together ??? Its bcs of love. But he's so obsessed with winning over joowon. Haesoo and taku ending up together won't be bcs of love but bcs haesoo pities him. And what different is it from haesoo's past relationships where he also pities them even after saying they're gonna break up he ends up having sex with them afterwards bcs of pity. We were so close to some character development from haesoo but its dissapointing how he's going down the same road once again. Haesoo will be making the same mistake once again. Haesoo does not love taku and neither does taku. There is no love. Haesoo enjoyed the company the sex but it was never love. Its gonna be just as toxic. I gotta say taku is a great fcking actor. He's a manipulative asshole. begging on his knees for haesoo to accept him and then manipulating haesoo into kissing him. I mean haesoo said he was gonna break up with him but then taku did all that whole sad act of his and haesoo pitied him bcs he saw his younger self in him. Taku and haesoo tgt will not be the happy ending of this manhwa bcs haesoo will not fall in love with taku bcs he's still in love with joowon and that's not gonna change.
Taku is not manipulative ffs, haesoo is old enough to understand what’s right and wrong. You are talking about how taku tried to push joowon away when they aren’t even together then what about joowon? Didn’t he barge into takus place and create a huge mess there when he knows that he and haesoo were just fuck buddies? And the same goes for joowon he was never mad at any of haesoo’s old partners he’s only mad at taku coz haesoo is actually standing up for taku. Joowon had many chances to get together with haesoo but did he? No instead he only hurt haesoo. And you say all this shit about taku have you considered how toxic haesoo was too? It’s not like taku forced haesoo to be with him but haesoo choose to do so. And haesoo has explained to joowon why they can’t be together(if you’ve read the chaps clearly) and haesoo is tired of giving up on things for joowon(that is his mom). joowon was by haesoo’s side only after they met each other and decided to be fuck buddies. So analyze the character correctly before you comment on that smh. Neither taku nor joowon would have a happy ending with haesoo, haesoo should just leave these men alone
If you think about begging of their relationship Taku was rather manipulative.
if you think taku wasn't manipulative at all you really have a problem. Unlike taku joowon has every right to question taku, he is still haesoo's hyung and friend while taku is still a question mark. And did u also forget the reason why joowon even went to taku's house??? It was bcs of haesoo! Bcs he was worried taku would do the same thing as his past models and leave haesoo after using him in any way he liked. Those were rumors. Yet when joowon asked him abt that he didn't even clear them up and always dodged the question. You really have the nerve to say that joowon had many chances to be with haesoo. Do you even think when reading the manhwa??? Like at all??? The whole reason they can't be together is bcs of so many obstacles, their family, their job, their homophobic country!!! Taku didn't need to worry abt these things. I'm done explaining to somebody who doesn't even understand the manhwa bcs go read it again and stop being obviously taku biased without a brain.
I’m not taku biased or whatsoever this is exactly why I even replied to you smh, I’ve mentioned that haesoo didn’t want their rs coz of a lot of reasons and if you didn’t read that it ain’t my problem. Secondly if you think that the rs between haesoo and joowon is the right thing you’re probably fucked in the head. You can’t judge someone with their past, and if “YOU” have read the manhwa with your brains still working taku was infatuated with haesoo and he was curious as to how haesoo would understand his character as his old partners only misunderstooh him. So before you come at someone read what they want to convey and interpret it with the awesome ass “brain” you have then reply. Plus you are telling me I am taku biased when I’ve given you reasons as to why all the characters are shitty are you even thinking straight? More like you don’t want me criticizing other characters except for taku smh
that part yes, I don’t want haesoo to end up with either of them coz as of joowon they can’t get together coz of their parents or whatsoever and taku I feel like he’s only infatuated with haesoo and he only wants him really bad rn coz of joowon so neither of them will have a happy ending.
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And lemme add smh, hAESOo is NOT A FUCKING KID and he knows what’s right and wrong. so you’re telling me that if you have a crush on someone and the person your crush hooks up with barges into your house you’d be like yup he/she is totally correct? Are you fucking nuts that aside you say taku is a “?” Well taku would also have rights coz he’s currently haesoo’s photographer and a second fuck buddy shm. Haesoo choose to stay with taku when he felt sad and lonely sooo it’s quite clear at to who hurts who.
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First of all you don’t make sense at all. you said it yourself, the fact that haesoo and taku are ‘fuck buddys’ so dont @ me abt it. He has the rights just because he’s haesoo’s photographer? Absolute bullshit. You can’t have the rights to get involved into someone’s relationship with other that easily. Taku is literally obsessed with winning over joowon, haesoo told him to wait until he gives a clear answer to his question (about their relationship) yet he still keeps pressuring haesoo about the dating situation, that is just so toxic and unpleasant, come think of it haesoo ending up alone would be 10 times better or at least someone new that actually can love haesoo properly without acting childish unlike joowon and taku.
Ffs do you even read the manhwa with your eyes open? Taku was concerned about haesoo in one of the chaps not coz he was a photographer/fuck buddy but coz he didn’t know what his relationship with joowon was but he soon realized what their it was and the in the new chap he got involved in haesoo’s relationship with joowon until very recently and it was after joowon barged into his place. Joowon was the one who got involved. Joowon is not haesoo’s hyung anymore as they were related only coz of their parents but their parents seem like they haven’t been together for over a decade so that makes no sense. And here again you missed out on my previous replies and replied to what I added on so that makes no sense, and I’ve explained before as to why I’d rather want haesoo to end up alone coz as of joowon they have their parents and shiz(you can see haesoo explaining as to why they can’t start over) and as of taku he was infatuated and curious about haesoo but now he looks like he just wants to win haesoo over joowon.
Did you read the story? He knew about their relationship from the very start from novels? He really quickly caught up it's true. And he got involved not only with Haesoo but also with premeditation make a deal to photograph Joowon. He knew who he was and he asked personal questions during photo section.
He was knew that haesoo was in a relationship but didn’t know who it was. He only got to know about joowon later
No he keen it was Joowon because story was about step brothers and he knew Joowon was Haesoo's step bro since chapter 19.
He knew*
Typos smh
I was correcting myself ^^"
Sorry my bad, but taku was already appointed photograph joowon for some brand ad. And yes he got to know that joowon was infact haesoo’s step bro and yes he did ask a bunch of irrelevant questions to joowon.
I think photographer can choose with whom they want to work.
Taku was already appointed to photograph joowon for some brand’s ad, and he only got to know that they were brother after that. And he only made a deal to be interviewed by haesoo coz he’s read his columns in his magazines and was intrigued by haesoo.
I think photographer can choose with whom he wants to work.
He already chose to work with joowon before he even knew who he was
It's hard to tell when exactly he chose to work with Joowon and when he learned who he was.
It’s not that hard though, he didn’t come to Korea just like that and they didn’t mention whether taku chose to be joowon’s photographer or he was already. But it’s quite clear as to when he learned that joowon was his bro in chapter 9
Just minute ago you thought Taku learned who Joowon was not long ago and now you said it's not so hard to know exactly what happened when...ok?
You were the one who said it’s hard to know exactly what happened and I replied to that. What’re you even saying, seems like your confused
Omg I'm stopping. I said author didn't precise when exactly Taku's company made a deal with Joowon's management. Ok maybe it was earlier than him knowing. Still he was super unprofessional and got even more interested in Haesoo when he understood his bro is Joowon. And he knew understood what's the nature of their from novels which he read before.
Had read before*
If he would stay professional during photo session I wouldn't say a word but with premeditation he was irking and getting reaction from Joowon.
Of course coz he was intrigued only due to haesoo’s magazines and especially his story on his teenage days. So when he got to know who it was he was obviously curious. He always took an intrest toward haesoo so think he’d stop after he got to know that joowon is his bro?
What are we even discussing right now. I just corrected you that Taku knew Joowon was Haesoo's bro since nearly beginning of this story, not since "not long time ago".
He got interested in him, read his novels, even more when he understood his bro is Joowon Choi and that novels are based on real life events.
Fin
Oml I literally just told you the same thing bro, you were arguing for no reason and I’ve explained the same thing to you. I’m done. nice talk, thank you next smh
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If taku's feelings for haesoo were genuine he would have man up and told joowon that he will not hurt haesoo and that the rumors going around about him are untrue. But the way taku dodged everything and instead said haesoo is with him eventho they're not even together and haesoo did not even gave him an answer yet and even he unnecessarily provoked joowon shows thats its clear as day that taku is not the man for haesoo. And he needs to stop playing this stupid game. Everything taku has done will bite him in the ass one day. He came out of nowhere to mess with haesoo and joowon's life and even wants to push joowon away who has been in haesoo's life for ten years. At least joowon has some right to question things bcs he is haesoo's hyung. But who is taku? Just a guy haesoo fucked and he was only used to fill the emptiness. He has no place in haesoo's life. So he has no right to demand shit like he owns haesoo. All of taku's real motives will be revealed soon and haesoo will cut ties with him. Taku's time of playing innocent angel in front of haesoo will come to an end. Its time everyone sees his true colors.
"If taku's feelings for haesoo were genuine he would have man up and told joowon that he will not hurt haesoo and that the rumors going around about him are untrue."
YESYESYES and he should have done it in the dinner, while everything was not this messy tbh. I mean they brought up about it, and if he's really a man, he should have at least cleared the rumour about him.
But he is right though, about Joowon needing to decide what he wants to be for Haesoo. I do agree with what you said about Taku and it actually gave me another idea. What if he is actually team Haesoo and Joowon? He read Haesoo's story before. He has an idea about the two's struggle. It seems he is purposely provoking Joowon to make him finally cement his relationship with Haesoo. Or that he is provoking Joowon for a fair fight over Haesoo.
Again, not saying Taku is nice or an angel, as he was being a dick over the call, but I also agree about what he said to Joowon.
I don't agree with what he said about joowon bcs haesoo and joowon never saw each other and never treated each other like that. They never put the label that they're each other's brothers. Thats only when others say it bcs they dont know the real relationship these two had so they had to just go with it. But its was clear that they had feelings for each other and slept with each other. So how can joowon be the brother. I mean taku also read about their story so why does he even ask that he knows these two never saw each other as brothers.
Both Haesoo and Joowon still highly consider their parents. That alone makes them brothers. If they were never brothers, if everything was clear, then what was the problem to begin with? Lol.
Think about it. They met when they were in late teens. By law were brothers about 3 years. By psychological sense they were never brothers. They didn't grow up together. Not long after they met each other they started sleeping together.
But still society and their married then parents were and would be against it.
Then they are brothers, nonetheless. I've made a post of this before. Joowon and Haesoo technically are not wrong with their relationship. They are not blood related or anything. So what's keeping them to just make things official? It's because they are brothers by law, and even if their parents divorced, in their heads they still are. That familial bond is an imaginary barrier for them to just be out and about as lovers. They are made to think and treat their feelings as taboo when technically they're not.
Until they face it head on and just come out to their parents, only then they would be able to break the idea about being a taboo and being so secretive. They don't mind coming out as gay I believe, Joowon doesn't really care about his career if Haesoo is involved and Haesoo is not covert about his sexuality. The public knowing isn't really a big deal, they don't even have to publicly be lovers. But breaking that familial bond is so hard for them.
They aren't brothers by law nearly for 7 years. Their parents are divorced for 7 years?
Joowon's mother still thinks about their relationship as disgusting. She can barely look at Joowon. Who knows what Joowon's father even thinks. SK still isn't heaven for homosexual people.
Haesoo dreams about Joowon getting married to a woman (not a GUY).
Exactly. They shouldn't have any problems, really. Lol. They are not legally brothers anymore. But the idea is still there. Probably because people associate them together as step brothers whose parents divorced. Then the parents, the Dad in particular, saying he wants to get back together makes matters worse.
It's one of things Haesoo is worried about. In exchange for standing up for their relationship, they would have to completely severe their ties with their parents, if they cannot accept it. They would give up their parents, among other things.
On the mother, yes she's disgusted but because no one is really challenging her idea, she keeps on thinking that it is. There's a possibility that she might change her perspective when the idea is challenged (i.e. Joowon and Haesoo come out to both of them).
On the dad, he seems like a nice guy but who knows.
On Haesoo dreaming of Joowon married to a woman. Haesoo doesn't mind being gay per se. I mean he is not hiding it. He's had affairs with others beside Joowon, right? I recall in the earlier chapters. Haesoo could be thinking a normal life for Joowon because he is in the limelight, while Haesoo is a normal guy. But he is done hiding in the pretense of good-step-brothers-even-after-divorce-but-is-lovers. I don't think he means that they should be public about their relationship but not be brothers to the Dad and be clear with the Mom.
I'm not so sure about Haesoo wanting to come out about their relationship to their parents. It would most likely destroy his bond with his mother. But who knows.
Tbh it rubbed me in the wrong way...because we don't even know if Joowon is bi. One gf was mentioned... But once again who knows.
Also the whole narrative that that would be good (better?) option for Joowon is also naive and unfair. Maybe it would make Joowon's life easier...but easier doesn't equal being happy.
Haesoo sure is scared. He would rather have the whole affair end than do the other option, to come out to them. But I don't think it's that hard to convince him if Joowon proposes the idea. He's just fed up being in the middle, gray area. It's either a yes or a no, and he's not going to propose yes.
Well it's one of Haesoo's flaws. He keeps swimming in his own thoughts and get drowned in them.
We'll get there eventually. It's just whether he'll initiate or Joowon will sort of force or convince him or Taku will be an effective plot device.
I think the author would be grinding this plot a bit longer, it's frustrating for us readers that these two are not setting their foot down and I guess that sells. Lol.
taku can talk big all he wants. He and haesoo aren't even together yet he's lying to joowon about that only to make himself feel better bcs he doesn't wanna lose to joowon. I mean you can also dislike what joowon says but he is right. It has always been him in the end. The one haesoo went to after every hookup. Taku only likes to act brave and cocky but actually he's a pussy and joowon's words actually hit him deep. At least joowon shows real emotions he made his point to taku clear that he will always be by haesoo's side and he cant erase joowon from haesoo's life. Taku being cocky will not get him anywhere. Haesoo still has not gave him an answer and he'll probably reject taku bcs haesoo clearly said he only wants himself yet taku does not want to listen and keeps asking haesoo to date him. He doesn't respect haesoo's decision. I'm pretty sure he doesn't love haesoo and nor does haesoo love him. Their fooling around period has to an end. Its time to face reality. Taku was only needed to fill the emptiness. And taku did tell haesoo to use him. So why does he suddenly go against his own words. I mean what he planned with haesoo was also to use him for his work and then leave just like the rumors said. He didn't deny that part when joowon confronted him so there is truth in them.
I strongly agree with u
seeing all the taku and taehae stans cry in the comment section is everything I ever wanted. lmao i mean we did told yall so that taku and haesoo can never end up together bcs they just don't belong together. it has only ever been about joowon and haesoo. the "love or hate" is abt them. taku doesn't deserve haesoo bcs he never loved him enough. he was just obsessed with the idea of love. he has a long way to go before he even understands what love is. like you can't tell me he loves haesoo but gets mad at his friend for telling haesoo that joowon got into a car accident??? whether taku liked it or not joowon would always be important to haesoo. if taehae were endgame. taku will just have to deal with that fact. but he refuses. taku knows that haesoo loves joowon and vice versa he knew this fact before he even approached them. so it is nobody's fault but his own. he knew all of this yet he still begged haesoo to date him for a month. haesoo kept the 1 month promise but taku didn't he wanted to take it further but how can they when haesoo doesn't have any feelings for him. haesoo been nice enough to date him but only out of pity yet this is what he gets in return??? getting mad at haesoo just bcs he went to see joowon who almost died??? all bcs he didn't stay for the afterparty??? taku is sick in the head. exactly like a child who doesn't get what he wants. maybe taku should chase candy instead and leave haesoo alone. joohae belong together and taku never had a place in their story EVER. he was just a passing face and im glad they broke up and taku went back to japan. joohae can finally have a happy ending that doesn't involve taku who never belonged there.
this comment saying facts tho
taku had it coming for him
Taku needs to grow up and maybe this experiencie would help him.
It was so obvious they wouldn't end up together. I can't believe some comments lmao.