Oh, yeah, because the guy who threw his little brother down the chimney for giggles when he was little, psychologically tormented him for over a decade, and was open and fine with raping his other younger brother if the opportunity ever presented itself, is exactly the kind of person that should want to take care of a baby. Honestly, I like this author but would also like to know what they were smoking when they made Grayson, because his character consistency is a pile of crap.
I don't think he's thinking much about taking care of a baby really, I think he's just trying to wish Dane into being babytrappable so he has the option
Color me surprised... Not. This coming from the same guy crying rape some ten episodes ago, mind you. Again, if it wasn't because this is an older and well established story, I would've thought AI made this dude's personality.
He was lying when he said that to chase about doing it with bliss. If you only read the novel you will understand his character very well, sadly this manhwa adaption doesn't show that much. Grayson has no intention of Doing that to Bliss his omega brother. He was even much closer to Bliss than his other siblings, it was shown on Bliss novel. Grayson was the one who been taking care of Both Bliss and Chase. And regarding the "Dog part" He did that to chase in order to have him release his pheromones, As we all know chase doesn't want to release his pheromones and Grayson know that to much build up pheromones will kill a dominant alpha in order for that not to happen he lied to chase, to force him into releasing his pheromones. Although that's kind of crap or trash move he did that with an intention of helping chase but here's the thing Grayson cant feel emotion, he copy or mimic emotions, so of course he believes that what he's doing is helping chase but instead of helping him he give him trauma.
here we go again with the bliss part. he basically saying to chase that you won't remember who you are forcing yourself with when you're in rut and not regulating your pheromones. chase prove this to grayson that it is true when he slept with josh but he can't remember him. he even impregnate and marked josh even though they barely know eo.
ashely has been reminding those things to grayson nonstop. he is the most aware of the consequences of not regulating the dominant alpha's pheromones. he didn't make himself a test subject for the pheromone research for nothing. he see bliss as someone who needs protection and support. bliss are more close to grayson and nathaniel because they do spoil him. you can't based a character's personality solely to a 1/3 side of the other stories.
the kind of thing you say when you with your ass
I'm sorry but that's awfully convenient. What possible difference can it be between Bliss and Chase? The fact that one is a dominant omega and the other one is a dominant alpha alone dictates what is and its not abuse in Grayson's mind? The feedback from the actual person is never taken into account? So he can be sweet to Bliss and spoil him because in his mind he's weak and vulnerable, but to Chase he can be cruel and tormenting, since he should be able to take it? And you don't see how there's a problem with that?
Also which is it because sometimes he can't feel emotions so his tormenting of Chase is not his fault... and some other times he's considerate and careful of his actions and spoils his fragile little brother? You are only proving my point about the inconsistency by the way.
He is treating them differently because Chase is the only one in his family who doesn't regulate and release his pheromone on a regularly monitor basis. In this world where dom alpha/ omega who goes into rut can jump on literaly anyone and anything when pheromone overtakes their mind, walking around with your pheromone unregulated put everyone around you in danger. Chase is the only one in the family who refuse to release pheromone at all, leading him to get into pheromone shock frequently and even unknowingly slept with Josh in their first time. This happens even before the dog incidence as Chase since his young age has rejected sleeping with random people like what other dom alpha, thinking that it is too animal like. Even in his story you can see how many times he struggled with managing his pheromone and overdosed on drug. Grayson treated Chase differently than other siblings because Chase is the only one constanrly walking around with head full of pheromone build up.
lol he see chase and bliss as the dumbest siblings in their family (which is true base on the novel itself and how they act) so he thinks that he has the responsibility to the both of them, but since bliss has ashley, and grayson sees that no one in his family are looking out for chase so he takes the responsibility to take care of chase (which he did it in a wrong way). where did i ever say that grayson is sweet to bliss? fyi he is not only sweet to bliss but to all his siblings. chase know this fact, that grayson sees their family as a loving one, that's why he was even more grosses out to grayson. and grayson sees all the abuse that he experienced from his father as normal and just to discipline him. also, grayson and his twin can't bully bliss because ashley is protecting him (the thing that ashley should've do to chase). there is a large age different between these three, unlike when chase was bullied by them physically which happens when they were YOUNG.
i can see the problem with grayson but i am knowledgeable about his background, not just based on one or two stories. since you're this hype up to their family and you care for bliss, i suggest to read all the novels, including for bliss.
the difference between chase and bliss is that bliss doesn't need to regulate his pheromones because he is a dominant omega, and dominant omegas are the strongest ones in this universe. that's debunk your assumptions that bliss is weak. wait did you just assume that if a character is omega, they are already weak? my god, you're so sick with this mindset.
also bliss has ashley and koi. on the other hand, chase's health is already detrimental because he was refusing to extract his pheromones on time, grayson witnessed all of chase's sufferings from not regulating his pheromones so comes up to his horrible plan which is to scare chase. i don't want to spoil you, but in side story, grayson did everything to bring josh to chase. his arms got even broke and he didn't mind it, his main priority is to save chase from dying from his own pheromones.
So you like this author? For what? Because I get the impression that you don't understand what she writes.
Grayson is actually a pretty consistant character, starting from KML. And it's actually her best developed character and her first.
The problem actually more lies in you, why? When I read what you wrote, I get the impression that you didn't understand what the author wrote. Yes, Grayson threw Chase down a chimney, but for "giggles"? No, so why did you add this? And he also didn't want to kill him, if that is your next idea.
I would even guess that you don't really understand what the problem with Chase and his siblings/family really was, because it is was mainly a communication problem. Chase suffered under it, but it was not to hurt or torment him.
And the thing with Bliss is always taken out of context. It just shows that you don't understand what Grayson was actually doing and how that messed up universe works. He was trying to make clear to Chase, who was not taking care of releasing pheromones, of what could happen. And if that sounded a bit weird, Grayson is pretty direct and he loves to ragebait his tsunderes (Keith, Chase, and Dane).
I never said I think Omega need to be weak (that is the dumbest assumption in the world), I was trying to give any possibility to rationalize what could possibly justify the difference in treatment in Grayson's head. And the way you keep saying that he didn't abuse Bliss only BECAUSE his parents protected him? Like that helps the argument to his character in your mind?? And also, all of you talking about pheromones this and pheromones that, my original comment and the whole point of it is that the abuse started happening when Chase was a CHILD. And not for giggles? Grayson himself said that it was to show Chase why Santa isn't real. Yeah, sounds like a great justification. The pheromone thing as well makes no sense, according to all of you that is his main justification, care and worry for his brother that puts his life in danger and "he loves to rage bait his tsunderes"... I've read all of Keith and Chase, Grayson is like an entirely different person from one story to another. He's the suave, soft spoken manipulator in Liar that can tell Keith's feelings apart before Keith can... And yet he's so socially inept in Kiss that he can't understand for the life of him why his brother is disturbed and terrified of him, not even intellectually. If that's rage baiting and not just plain old bizarre writing for shock value then Grayson is either an idiot or a psychopath.
Also, I forgot to add, Grayson is so worried Chase will go crazy for the pheromone overload but Chase is actively SUICIDAL because of what Grayson has done to him. That's not a problem in his mind? Only the pheromone thing right?
1. Chase was a child so was Grayson . Grayson is older but at the time he was still a kid . A kid who was presented as a dominant alpha from birth that’s why his brain is the way it is .
2. Bringing kml and not acknowledging that Grayson was the one who saves yw from getting rape or being annoying towards Keith so he would accept his feelings . Grayson knows text book definition of feelings , not what they actually feel like
He has study them so he is good at seeing facial expressions and putting a feeling on them . But empathy is not something he feels . He could see anger in Chases face and distress but not how that felt, so the only thing he did was smile because he was taught that when he didn’t understand a situation or wanted to calm down someone or making them think it okay was with a smile . So yes , that creepy smile YW from kml was scared off and the smile Chases made him think he was serious was always a way for Grayson to calm down the situation. That’s something we are gonna see in this novel . Dane being the first one to realize that and tells him to not smile if he doesn’t understand a situation or not know how to feel .
3. And yes , the whole point of dominant alphas is that they are all psychopaths yes even Chase because biting someone’s tongue off and pushing your securities out of helicopters is not normal either . People talk about pheromones so much because in this universe the secondary gender is an important factor of the story .
No, you are wrong with that one. That is not Grayson's fault.
Chase from the beginning struggled with being a dominant alpha. That's why he had problems with not just his family, but dominant alphas in general.
He hated the idea of having sex with random people, without feelings, being influenced by pheromones. So he let his pheromones always build up, not releasing them. That + is overuse of medicines are responsible for this, and his medical condition. His anger and violence issues have probably to do with when he manifested.
Grayson is responsible for his dog trauma.
"So he can be sweet to Bliss and spoil him because in his mind he's weak and vulnerable, but to Chase he can be cruel and tormenting, since he should be able to take it? And you don't see how there's a problem with that?" ASSUME THIS AND WHERE DID THOSE WORDS CAME FROM? IT'S FROM YOU AND NOT GRAYSON.
ALSO, this story revolves around their second gender and grayson born manifested. You should understand how this universe works first, before you run your mouth. We have given you a lot of information from different stories in this universe, because KMIYC didn't focus on that. they are more on sex. Our argument was supported by other facts and here you are still arguing with your only knowledge from kmiyc itself. YOU'VE BEEN SPOONFED, YOU JUST NEED TO USE YOUR MIND.
CHASE NOT EXTRACTING HIS PHEROMONES AND RELYING TO INJECTIONS ONLY HAS CAUSED HIM TO BE MENTALLY ILL. HE'S BEEN DOING THIS BEFORE EVEN GRAYSON BROUGHT THE DOG TRAUMA TO HIM. THIS IS WHAT GRAYSON WANTS TO AVOID.
ALSO, IF YOU READ THEIR FATHER'S STORY WHICH GIVES A LOT MORE INFORMATION TO WHAT HAPPEN WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG, YOU COULD SEE THAT CHASE SUPPRESSED HIS FEELINGS AFTER ASHLEY DIDN'T GAVE HIM ENOUGH ATTENTION. you are so misinformed that i need to write it in all caps.
if after this and you can't still understand the situation of the both of them, then the problem was you or your reading comprehension.
I just realized that the plot of this story is literally a Hallmark movie. The single mother (father ofc) that moves to the small town with her baby to start over after being abandoned by their partner, only to meet the handsome and brooding stranger that is weary of her at first for being a city girl and doesn't think she can cut it in the country life, but then of course under all his grumpiness he has a heart of gold and takes over protecting her and her baby , and of course is also independently wealthy so has enough time to dedicate to her and her child.
Like its literally bit by bit a cliche Hallmark movie, it's just so well crafted and the story and characters are so rich that I never noticed it before. It truly makes me appreciate this project even more because the level of skill to make a tired trope like this feel this nice and fresh is INSPIRING.
Lmaooo I only noticed that because you pointed it out
Ty for pointing this out, never thought of it!
This NEEDS to be an anime. This is the pinnacle and final form of Romance manga. Someone ANIMATE this!!!!!
Good, good, all the prospective boyfriends working hard to earn Yeon's attention. We love to see it. Although Ryucheong needs to step up his game. I'm not against him as ML but I'm going to need more action on his part.
Yeah fr all bro doing is just staring and huffing and puffing likeeee do something do a lil bird dance to appeal go Yeon bro
YES! Fall HARDER, FASTER. Francois honestly I can take or leave, but I want MarIus to end up an ABSOLUTE SIMP. I want him to fall so hard that he's CRUSHED when Alice tries to leave in 10 years, like absolutely positively WRECKED. Come on, author-nim, give me it!
Am I the only one that doesn't find this endearing? I mean he's so sincere to her and she's always so predatory. It's giving those creep guys that think that because you smiled at them or were nice to them it automatically means they can come on to you. Like he so honestly wants to be friend with her and she always undressing him and thinking dirty Wrap is making kind of uncomfortable.
Yeah like it's not that funny, if anything it could be funnier or cute if they decided to be together and she was all more proactive about getting physical while he maybe more slow and nervous. At this point though she already knows what kind of person he is
Idk there's stuff I like bit her "misunderandings" are making this less fun for me.hes so cute he deserves better (〜￣△￣)〜
Right? I let it marinate thinking the gag was just going to be the setup for their actual cute relationship but now I'm starting to think the gag is all there is, and its honestly feeling icky and not at all funny. Nobody that sincerely wishes to be friends with somebody deserves to be objectified and sexualized like this, regardless of their gender. If she were anything but a cute big boobed girl this would be extremely creepy. I'm getting some Danny DeVito theory here.
Fully agree, while i do like this manga she does need to have a better character
Whoever put this in the power bottoms list needs to get their heads checked. This MC has to be one of the most useless MCs I have seen in a LONG time. Hell, for a minute there I almost wanted ML to die as punishment for MC being so effing stupid. Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING that went wrong in the story happened because he's dumb as a rock. Like I kept waiting for him to explain the grand master plan that would justify not only keeping his hated psycho ex's spy by his side, but also routinely allowing himself to be graped and harassed by said ex, and even going to the hospital where the ex's relative WORKS when he finally manages to get pregnant again. Like I kept thinking, he has to be plotting something, there has to be something here I'm not seeing... And then ML gets kidnapped and almost killed and this dude is all Pikachu faced? LIKE HOW DID YOU NOT SEE THIS COMING??????? HOW DID YOU NOT HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN????? YOU ARE THE WORST MAFIA BOSS IN THE UNIVERSE, YOU DUMB FUCK! (╬￣皿￣)凸
Never mind, after starting the side stories I realize author can't develop a successful, coherent conflict to save their life. Dropping.
Sadly, i agree lmao
Thank you so much, I was about to read this but your comment just saved me
+111111111111111111 my eyes keep rolling to the back of my head every time he tells his bodyguards to stay outside while meeting his psycho rapist ex like bruh…
This is PERFECT. A perfect piece of media. This should be in a museum and should be mandatory subject at schools. Please enshrine this.
This is such an interesting conflict. As expected of BWAT, they always pump it up to 100 when it comes to character interaction between their leads. I love the approach here because both are in the right but both are also very much in the wrong.
Eve of course wants to protect Adam over everybody else and cannot understand why Adam is mad at him for his lack of humanity, but logically speaking, how is he supposed to react? In his mind, espers are cattle, with only the useful/powerful ones being valuable and everyone else meant to be disposed of. Even himself he sees as disposable and eventually meant to be destroyed, so expecting him to grapple with human ethics when he's been educated under this worldview is completely absurd. He's like a puppy who doesn't want the toy he loves to break at this point.
And Adam on the other hand, he fell for Eve at first sight, and kind of put him on a pedestal of the most beautiful, purest, most pitiful victim that just wants love and who loves humans, and who others only ever want to use. He did that on his own and, on his own, got disappointed when Eve showed the darker side of his personality. Like a parent that goes to the orphanage and adopts the quiet and pretty kid, only to return him a month later when he starts showing himself as the troubled teenager. But on the other hand, letting everyone die just to keep Eve happy is OBVIOUSLY morally wrong.
Like they are both wrong and they are both right and this is delicious and I need BWAT to put this out as a book so I can BUY IT.
Yeah, it's morally wrong. But who needs morals in a gate
100% well said
Morals is the whole reason they are doing this to begin with. The survival of humanity as a whole before a predator, vs a survival of the fittest societal breakdown is a purely moral conundrum. Plus it's morality, or lack thereof, that guides the treatment of the espers as well. You can not come and say they are human beings and on the same breath say that their preventable deaths don't matter.