he was SA’d by his childhood friend and he probably would’ve forgiven him but he was lied to he didn’t directly bully skylar he just didn’t intervene n i probably wouldn’t either if he was the MC not hate him especially since some of yall literally like cirrus
I am sorry but what Minwoo did has no excuse. Playing that sick trick on Skylar then having all the other guys bullying him and beating the crap out of him for days, weeks, months especially during the most important time of his last year of middle school where Skylar was supposed to take his exams. Push him to a dark place to the point Skylar wanted to commit suicide.
I am sorry but, u have have ur right to express ur opinion.
But I also have my own right to say what a crap of take u just spouted.
he only tricked him to see if he was lying or not if he hadn’t lied their relationship could’ve been mended. people bullied skylar because he SAd someone but its just kinda weird how readers are trying to spin that on the victim who for the most part ignored it i and most people aren’t going to go our of our way to defend the person that assaulted me. i feel like many readers are dehumanizing minwoo in this situation he got violated by someone he not only trusted but cared for for 7 years but he’s the bad guy it just makes no sense
Forgive me if i’m wrong but didn’t Minwoo literally get a bunch of guys to SA Skyler?? Like wasn’t there literally a chapter before skyler’s mom found out where they SA’d him
No. You got it wrong. There was no SA. Minwoo ordered the guys to beat Skylar in places Skylar’s mother couldn’t see. So the guys beat him up under his uniform’s shirt.
That’s why in the next chapter u see the mom noticing his uniform’s shirt with blood spots and then she confronted him about that.
This was already explained plenty of times. U just have to read the dialogues.
no he tells them to hit him where it cant be seen so they hit underneath his clothes
skylar did not sa anyone??
By “sa” the user meant when Skylar kissed Minwoo in his sleep. I personally wouldn’t call it sa.
tf man..
Skyler wasn't SAed by anybody, they removed his shirt to physically abuse him where it wouldn't be visible to anyone.
Kissing someone without consent is sexual assault.
Umm kissing someone without consent is sexual assault tho?
Minwoo isn't a victim lol yes, Skylar shouldn't have kissed him without consent but Skylar didn't deserve to be physically abused and bullied for what he did tho. Minwoo could have just punched Skylar for what he did then end their friendship because he betrayed his trust. I understand why Minwoo was angry with Skylar but humiliating him and bullying him was so unnecessary and excessive. Don't try to justify everything Minwoo did and act like he's a poor little victim when he's not. Minwoo was dehumanizing Skylar so why can't we dehumanizing him?
*dehumanize him
minwoo was a victim of SA from his friend for years, he wanted skylar to be telling the truth so bad he didnt want to have to trick him he just wanted to find out if he was lying you can not tell me if the person that SAd u was being bullied you would jump out of ur chair to save them victims can do bad things but that does not make them any less of a victim people that SA deserve to get bullied idc
kissing someone without their consent is SA
kissing someone without consent is SA
U see that’s why I wouldn’t use that word for what Skylar did, because SA for me it implies something more violent, more crude.
Whereas what Skylar did was just a peck on Minwoo’s lips. Yes it’s true that he did it without consent and blah blah but would u really call that a “sa”. My 2 cents.
Umm it's still sexual assault, fool. Groping someone's private parts without consent is sex assault, and forcing a kiss onto someone is sexual assault.
You're acting like you said something smart but you just sound ignorant, man. There's obviously different forms of sexual assault.
I don't understand what you're saying and I never said that he wasn't a victim of SA but that he stopped being a victim after what he did to Skyler. Plus, he did everything because he was homophobic not because Skyler wasn't telling him the truth. Stop justifying what Minwoo did asshole.
Yes, I would be on my friend's but I'll stop being on their side if they start excessively bullying the person to the point they want to off themselves. I would have told them to just ghost them or tell their parents that they want to move schools or something because they don't feel comfortable going there anymore.
Even though Minwoo wasn't planning on tricking him, he still went through with it to humiliate him so what's your point? Minwoo didn't care about his feelings and thought he was disgusting so why would he care if skylar was telling the truth or not? What Minwoo did to Skylar was illogical...
what he did is not sexual assualt dude. what he did was just his feelings not being reciprocated. it was a misunderstanding on skylar's part for the minwoo felt about him
you cant just stop being a victim because you reacted negatively not every victim is going to be perfect yall rly need to stop victim blaming when ppl retaliate and he may have been homophobic but u can not deny he was not hurt by the fact that skylar sat in his face and lied after assaulting him all skylar got was bullied if he were older he would’ve been arrested or killed be serious
it is literally sexual assault don’t even try to make excuses for that
as someone who was SA’d i could not give a single fuck about my abusers feelings and most people dont minwoo had the right to think skylar was disgusting idk what fantasy world u live in where all victims have to be nice angels that protect their abusers but u rly need to grow up n stop reading so much garbage it’s genuinely messing with ur brain if u think minwoo is the bad guy in this senario
strange induvidual and ur acc going to hell if u think pushing someone to almost suicide is justified bc they kissed you unconsensually. being a bystsander is just as bad as doing the actual bullying in case you were not aware, so saying minwoo and didnt actually abuse skylar bc he just "didnt intervene" is insane and nonsensical. yes what skylar did was a form of sa, but something of that caliber does not deserve that level of punishment, especially since they were such close friends. minwoo going to such lengths to ruin skylars life over a kiss was so patheric and if you agree with him, ur a loser too. bye
coming back to this bc minwoo was actually okay with the kiss, what he wasnt okay with was the fact the skylar had feelings for him! he wouldve swept the whole thing under the rug if skylar said he kissed him bc he was drunk and that was all there was to it. so minwoo had traumatized skylar and partially runied his life bc his friend had feelings for him. if you think minwoo didnt really do anything wrong, thats a lie bc minwoo is literally the devil
Im glad the author is not choosing to ignore the whole Heesung watching Dan blindfolded scenario cause that’s probably the most egregious thing done i’m hoping this somehow leads to a slip up in which someone something about Heesung already knowing about their relationship which makes Jaekhyung admit the truth to Dan but I fear the author is really pushing for a redemption arc and i dont know how that could even be possible with Dan knowing that info and we’d probably have to start this whole arc over again idk
She'll figure it out lol, she did it with BJ Alex though I think jaekyung is a bigger asshole but it'll definitely happen somehow
do you think you could enlighten me on the scenario you’re talking about in BJ Alex please?
It's better if you read it, but basically the author has already made almost exactly this type of story before. mean/uncaring top, bottom who actually cares/gets hurt by the top, bottom gets some self respect and leaves, top realizes he's been a dickhead and tries to earn forgiveness because he also realizes he loves the bottom. they go through a cold period where the bottom refuses his attempts or insists on leaving while the top grows jealous of the people around the bottom and misses him, then the top does something or the bottom learns something about the top's past that makes him more willing to forgive him and they reconcile and have a romantic happy ever after where the top is now a better person.
This is the storyline that was followed in BJ Alex and Jinx hits all of these points as well. I just think that "Alex" in BJ Alex was a little more redeemable, he was cold and an asshole but he wasn't prone to anger like Jaekyung, and the relationship between the main couple wasn't formed because of a debt being paid in return for sex. It was still a transaction but it was much different. I'd recommend reading it because the author used basically the same framework for BJ Alex that she's using for Jinx and the only difference is the characters and some slight things like Jaekyung's realization of his feelings + his attempts at forgiveness and Dan's changes after realizing he needs to leave the situation with Jaekyung
thank you for the lengthy reply i’ve been convinced
Good luck lol, I always skip the redemption part bc it gives me so much secondhand embarrassment lmfao