I read the novel and don't plan to read the manhwa till it's done but im here to spoil people. It's pretty interesting.
I'd say Ian is twisted AF but that's due to his past(we get vivid snap shots of it, not gratituous, just sad and realistic). I see a lot say there's a lot of suffering for Michelle but Itd not in the way y'all are thinking? Spoilers, but he never actually finds out about their backstory or why his family falls into ruin(his dad dies and one of his older bro dies and another gets addicted to gambling etc, the house title ends up falling to Michelle, the last functioning member of the family). He simply believes the family is unlucky and Ian reiterates this by even attending the bros funeral in his place and drugging Michelle to fall ill so he can't go, saying hes glad Michelle didn't go so he doesn't have to be infected by their bad luck lol. Ian just never tells him, not a word. Michelle lives in blinded happiness the whole book regarding Ian and his own family. The angst comes instead from 4 aspects.
One, from the glimpses of Ian's past we see. These are scattered throughout and some are only mentioned while there are entire scenes for others where Ian is referred to as just a northern slave Ain, not by his current name, as if it's another person. It's miserable, it's real. 2nd, Ian having a hard time accepting he actually loves Michelle, the son of his enemy. His feelings go back and forth in denial, Michelle can sense this, and the two bridge that gap. Michelle is made aware of his background as a sex slave and his identity as a bastard child, and those are addressed. So it's not too bad to me. Third piece of angst is the various murder attempts on their heads bc Ian has enemies. Michelle even has to kill someone and there was a rape attempt on both of them that thankfully didn't go through. They go thru a lot.
Fourth goes hand and hand with reason three, in the later part of the novel in what feels like an au but is canon, Ian gets a psuedo pregnancy. This is the most angsty part of the whole book. Michelle is very happy, as Ian had once said that perhaps even men could get pregnant if they love each other enough(and he believed it lol). Ian is skeptical and planning to abort it, believing its some weird curse or disease. But bc Michelle is so happy, buying baby clothes, wondering about the baby, Ian falls into a strange state of looking forward to it and keeps it for longer and longer. Ian has really bad pregnancy symptoms like vomiting everything he eats, fatigue, sleepiness. He has to be away from the public eye for months. Then his sister sends an abortion medicine in her letter upon learning he's pregnant. Ian contemplates abortion again. On Christmas I believe, Ian gets stomach pain. He can't even crawl to get help bc everyone is out celebrating the festival. But he does have a bell on the side table, but decides not to wring it in the end after mental struggle. He dreams about a child, a girl that resembles Michelle. When he wakes up he fears he's near death, crawls to the meds, and takes the abortion meds.
(Correction the pseudo pregnancy is au I misunderstood)
Michelle goes upstairs and finds him bleeding out. The doc makes Michelle leave, bc he knows Ian took abortion meds and didn't want Michelle to know. Ian survived, but is severely injured. He needs time to recover. Michelle goes thru his darkest period, even confessing he occasionally wished the child didn't exist when he saw how much ian was suffering and how he nearly died. Michelle says he believes the child really died bc he wished it. Ian comforts him. Later, Ian has a convo with some kind of witch who had been gone for months. Witch tells him he's lucky he aborted it bc it wasn't even human, it was a curse from some enemy, and took the form of a half dog half human. If he gave birth he'd have died. Ian asks the gender. It was male. Ian is glad his mother remains the only woman he has ever killed, so he doesn't have to remember this child forever. He also laments that his earlier thoughts were accurate and that if the witch hadn't been away he wouldn't have gone thru all this since he would've known it was just a curse.
Michelle is still grieving the loss but putting on a brave face for Ian. He puts all the baby stuff in a room, cries, and then covers it up and shuts it away. He slowly recovers.
Other angst points are like Michelles bros death, which he grieves for a long time. Ian gets him out of it(yes he had a hand in bros death and yes he also comforted him lol Ian is twisted). There is a side story with a real au of what if Michelle knew Ian was a servant of the family(not his dads sex slave) and they grew up together, and then the two run away together under Ians instigation.
It's kinda the first in terms of feeling bad for Michelle feeling bad for his family bc Michelle's family is just so damn evil. So u kinda gloat with Ian when Michelle fam goes under but feel bad for *Michelle* feeling bad. It's the second part for Michelle's emotional angst regarding their actual relationship. Like when Ian goes hot and cold or purposefully tests Michelle like this chapter, you can't help but be like bruh we know you got demons but Michelle is an angel and knows nothing? This book is saved by the fact that Michelle is quite innocent and naive and has decent mental fortitude to look on the bright side of everything. So while Ian fights his demons, Michelle is in rainbow land(kinda), so it doesn't feel too angsty. On the other hand, watching Michelles innocence is sometimes so painful as reader bc I even hated him at times(Michelle) bc we know Ian's backstory. Throughout the book Michelle says "I want to be a one on one couple with you just like my father, who loved and was loyal to my mother blah blah blah" and even I wanted to smack him even tho he knows nothing. Like having your lover tell you with pride that your rapist is their goal and standard for a relationship has to warp your mind.
So actually maybe more the first lol? Bc even I felt I would go insane if I was Ian. I can only say Michelle's ignorance is his bliss.
I see. I THINK I'll put this on one hell of a long hold then. I would understand Ain but I already hit pause when he manipulated Michelle this chapter. My cortisol will not accept Michelle being coerced and manipulated, while at the same time being pissed off that he's so oblivious...
Thanks for the info, you deserve to get smooched by your fav person
So I know that the webtoon craze has been going pretty hard for a while now, but I was just wondering what y'all actually prefer: webtoons(also colored comics in general) or the traditional black and white manga? For me, I prefer the traditional cause I really like the details and the lines. I still like webtoons and read them, but in terms of visual preference and setup I like black and white mangas more. Tell me, what yall think?
I like and read both webtoons and mangas. But I really prefer mangas. The quality and the details in the artwork set the mangas apart, for me. Also, I feel that, in many webtoons, the ending is rushed and/or we are left with loose ends. Maybe that, because mangakas have editors, it happens less frequently in mangas?... ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Definitely traditional! But ofc I also read webtoons. I think mangas took more effort than webtoons (i also read webtoons so please dont hit me) and the quality and art is so much more! Also their emotions, I feel like mangas translate the emotions of characters more vividly. The characters too I feel are more distinct in manga (I mean their design). It's sad how I think I see less manga nowadays especially in the home page of mangago. Also, I posted a question before regarding manga reading apps and they seem to be scarcer these days as opposed to the webcomic apps. :(
I agree that's kinda why I brought this up. I feel like less manga are getting translated in favor of webtoons, which is why we're seeing less on mangago and less manga reading apps in favor of webtoons. I know this because I regularly check the new releases page bc that's where I have to go to look for alot of new manga now since the home page mostly has new webtoons(and for some reason smut lately? Idk) Which is ok since I like webtoons too, but because I do actually prefer mangas its a bit disappointing less are being translated. Welp.
I agree and perhaps due to the amount they can fit on one page(webtoons fit sometimes one whole image on a page where a manga would have several panels) so a lot of stories feel short(in terms of chapter length) and abnormally fast in terms of developments and endings. It's like they just didn't have enough room. I will say however, that all the extra chapters that most webtoons have are an added bonus however.
I'm surprised to find this reason lol but I can relate. When webtoons first came out, I couldn't read them cause my eyes are kinda sensitive and the bright colors just gave me a headache. In comparison, I think the shades of blacks and whites and Grey's are more calming on the eyes(to me). And so I flow with manga stories better.
So the manga is abt one dude(the uke) who went to his friends house(seme) while drunk and ends up cleaning the guys room cause its filthy. They have suffocation sex whenever he comes over to clean. Basically the seme chokes the uke whenever they have sex(uke likes it) i cant remember the title but thats the plot. Help please
http://www.mangago.me/tag/Asphyxiation%20/
^Might find it in this tag.
I'm still rooting for them but the way this is so miserable it might rlly be a BE. Perhaps double suicide?