why THE FUCK this turns into codename anastasia???? i want the actor/bizworld drama back again not this rape shit
there’s an increasing trend of webtoon sequels that usually revolve around family member or friends of the main character from the original webtoon getting their own story. my biggest beef with them is that they are created by a different artist, and they certainly have different artstyle that sometimes it’s difficult to pin in my mind that this character is the same characters from the og. like i can’t see this character as the same one from the og (for example like in passion: raga). it creates a bridge and sometimes confuses me when they make references to the original story. perhaps this is just a skill issue on my part and i hope we can stop this MCU type ah webtoon and starts writing one that’s actually good.
second of all, grayson was painted as an awful human being in kiss me if you can. chase was scared of this man and i grew a hatred for him. and ofc when he got his own story, the author will pain his problems, his detachment, his problematic behaviour, his “idk im different than others” by making him neurodivergent WITHOUT spelling it out out because that would require them to potray them responsibly. they would of course, blame it on “aww he grew up rich but his daddy is being a meany towards him of course he would not understand how emotion works :(“. that could not made me despise the whole entire concept of grayson miller more.
on a positive note, i love dane. so much. an omega with buffy appearance, funny unironically, he has gorgeous melanin as well. the fireman squad were funny too, they all have pretty good personality for NPC’s in yaoi story. but i can’t say i’m excited to see these two get together. and it pisses me off because it had somewhat a potential. i just hate how grayson is written. i also lowkey hate his art design.
fun fact: grayson and dane were the first characters that the author created in her omegaverse. so the thought that grayson's character was somewhat forced to be like this was debunk. it was the other characters who have been adjusted to be able to exist with the first 2 characters. if you would also observe how grayson's character was portrayed in other stories, he is very consistent and he was not as evil as you think, it just happen that it was from the pov of chase with a trauma and yeonwoo with disgust to alpha. he even saved yeonwoo from getting gangrape in kml, saved chase in side story. the author was developing grayson and dane's character by publishing the other stories.
so kmiyc is not the "og" it was actually dmiyc.
oh the fact that grayson is suppose to be the original is… bad. it doesn’t change the fact what i hate about his whole character concept, it made it even worse
Well it simply means that Grayson is not the type of character that you like and there is no issue with that. Most of the stories in this universe can still be read seperately, though the better fleshed out one will revolve about the more abrnormal and not too likable characters by normal standard.
I believe the author intention is to build up a world where it is clear that gender and pheromone level can significantly impact on not only the person but also everyone around them, how they view those dominant alpha/ omega, how they think of them. This unfortunately was not gone into details enough in the earlier published story, which makes people confused and taken aback in later publised ones. Some people will like this approach will some will prefer to stick to the lighter mood story which will be up to your preference.
For now, we know that the author has big plan to develop this universe beyond the Miller families and may goes into even darker themes. This is a plan she has been telling since years ago and as a reader we can pick and choose what we want to read but there is not much control we can do in what we want her to write or not.
if they can't stomach grayson's character how can they even read nathaniel's and dominic's? so it's really good that zig choose to publish kmiyc first, the soft and simplest one. they are not ready for kiss me series then lol because compare to if you can, i'm sure it would be more disturbing. surely these people can only handle characters like chase and josh. they are not ready for the complex characters in this series.
for you maybe, but if chase is the original one it would be more bad because he is not that interesting unlike grayson and nathaniel. this series had focus more on the damage alpha and grayson is the perfect example of it, the most interesting part is he is seen like his own grandfather, who has a tragic and toxic love story, but he choose a different path. the one that no one in their family did. he is connected to almost all the characters and had mostly has a cameo to all the other connected series. that's how important his character is. should i add more that he played a big role in kmiyc? that if it's not for his character, kmiyc won't even evolve as it was right now? not defending his wrongdoings but pointing out that he is indeed important in this series.
if you erase grayson in kmiyc, chase would live as an actor but he won't have his own story with josh.
It depends, if Ashley didn't interfere if Grayson wasn't there, Chase would have most likely damaged his brain, became insane etc. Because if it took Grayson to drag him to the pheromeons parties and they used an injection there, then Chase didn't care for getting injections on his own.
i never criticized the omegaverse lore behind the story. even tho i have a lot of thoughts on the genre, i prefer stories that does not revolve around “omega = weak” troupe which is why i like both dane and joshua a lot.
i never have any problem with unlikeable characters. i have a long list of my favorite yaoi with assholes seme. it’s the matter of how they were written and how they choose to become a better person (or nor, but usually a happy ending choose the former because it’s romantic or whatever). chase is a really good somewhat assholely and arrogant seme and he is very well written. so i believe the writer had the capability of writing a good character. i really enjoy the story of kmiyc, so when i saw the writer had another story revolving one of the miller siblings, naturally i had a high expectation that i will read a great story with banger art. when that expectation did not met, i think it’s fair for me to be disappointed and gave the writer a criticism (which they would probably never see anyway).
it sucks because yaoi fans are so easy to please and would defend a mediocre character writing just because they look gorgeous and fucks another gorgeous man but hey, im not yucking anyone’s yum. just here to rant what i had in my mind ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
first time i saw someone say chase is well written character.
right. the wrong thing i said is chase would still be an actor when in fact he has the high chance to be dead.
“they are not ready for the complex characters in this series” one of my favorite character in all media is cersei lannister. don’t start talking to me about evil character in media because unlike some yaoi fans, i read and watch other things. I KNOW how a good “evil character” look like. i criticized HOW they are written and NOT what they are doing. i hate grayson in kmiyc because he was suppose to be an antagonist character, period. and when i see that we are getting the chance to see him from up close, i was excited to see his pov but only left disappointed. why are you here if your argument is just as shallow as his character? “aw they can’t handle complex character :(“ girl leave the debate im not going to reply to your ass anymore lol
The funny thing is that Grayson is most likely the best developed character of the author. And Chase is actually one which would have needed some more attention.
i never said best developed although very well written is still a bit too high of a praise, true. the bar for a good seme for me is in hell so i apologize for giving him so much credit now that i think about it. still doesn’t change the fact that for me chase is more well written than grayson so far.
the most well written character who never change even in side story. as shallow as his own story.
girl kmiyc didn't even give a 50% contribution to the whole series and you are saying grayson is supposed to be an antagonist even in his own story? lol.
Preference aside, I think you are giving your judgement a bit too quick for this story. We just now enter the phase where they try know each other more beyond 'asshole at work', neither Dane nor Grayson has any character development right now beside their premise. Even for kmiyc, the development you see from Chase takes time to happen and not within the first 10+ chaps of the series, so compare a character in an almost complete series with one from 1/3 of their story is not a fair comparision. This is a very long and slow burn story that will take time for both Grayson and Dane to develop, both romantically and as a person.
Wow ts so interesting
fresh and interesting story. i wish we got explicit scenes from them but i’ll take what i can have
i love crime-mystery so much and we rarely see a case focus yaoi but god leon is really annoying to me. you don’t have any right to be jealous if you put yourself in an open relationship (that almost exclusively one sided). currently in chapter 21 and i hope leon is like rian from bad apple where he sleeps with people for information because he is secretly an agent or something. that would make me less irritated but still hates the whole concept. i would feel better if benjamin decided to sleep with someone else as well.
Leon has feelings for the detective. He confessed to detective in recent chapter
i mean we lowkey knew that but the problem is he is sleeping around for fun while demanding that the detective remain exclusive to him before. ofc they are gonna be exclusive, that’s how it usually goes in yaois and nobody is surprise. i really can’t handle this one sided open relationship troupe and actually questioning people’s taste who likes that troupe
He stopped sleeping around too. So can't you let it go ?
girl no and the detective shouldn’t???? are you really allowing yourself to get trampled around like i want to see the detective gets angry and do something about it
The detective doesn't care okay ? He still didn't react much when he heard the confession , he's simply busy with cases. And Leon is trying to get better in his own way. And then he confessed to detective that he wants to get better for him , someone he can rely on , someone who perfectly matches together.
What else do you need now ? People can change and you have to accept them when they try to get better.Leon has a painful past he doesn't talk about. You don't know about his side of the truth.
Leon never demanded him to be exclusive. He was being jealous on his own but never demanded the Ben to not see his ex.
Plus Ben, while a little irrational, felt that sleeping w him was just a casual fling like Leon had w other people. Leon was more focused on being “special” to Ben cuz that’s how he regarded Ben, so when the ex came and knew more about Ben, Leon felt that his “special” role was being taken. atp he sees relationships and sex as a casual noncommittal thing which is why Ben saw it that way. And I’m pretty sure there’s a reason to him being promiscuous and his view on relationships.
But he stopped sleeping around. Even Ben brought up “what if it’s a temporary thing and u get bored and regret it” so they both considered that and Leon still cut it off.
gonna drop this bcs although the art is gorgeous i can’t stand the cheesy and cliche plot they are going for. nothing infuriates me more than an external conflict who his whole reason is as shallow as “i just want to see him fall down” be so fucking for real. just such a lazy execution
we all know jin has high functional autism (even tho still not a great portrayal of it but it’s on a decent side since the bar is in hell) but i have a feeling the story won’t acknowledge that he is because that would require a responsibility for portraying them correctly, which in this story he is still a very “fictional romance” autistic.
im salivating right now this might be about to be the greatest yaoi run in awhile