something I noticed in gender bend stories with the women pretending to be a guy, that I really liked is that authors treat the girl like a character rather than a girl. I always had a weird vibe or some distaste for regular stories with a girl and a guy cause they just made the women centered around being a woman somehow even if it is a little. They would give the woman a passion only to throw it out the window when a man appears. While in gender bend story, they treat that like human beings. The girls have more personality, mostly a funny one, they have a passion, they don’t focus too much on love or whatever and rather on building other relationships, and best of all they have some logic and sense.
This story is actually really great other than the fact it demonizes corset, but cmon the corsets in this manhwa seem like they could kill someone……which almost did…..lol. I like how the author gave yuri a reasoning as to not like Lester, like a reasonable reason since most authors would’ve continued with a love story like that. This also gives a sweet family and friendship vibe more than a love vibe, basically this story doesn’t just focus on love but friendships and family. I also like that the story is centered around work and a passion for work rather than the classic “I work but whenever I encounter love, I throw everything out the window” type of thing. Also the outfits are gorgeous. The ml isn’t some cold distant handsome knight like every other fucking ml out there…who apparently has black hair too…..lol.
I felt the same with this Manwha especially with the ML all the previous stories I read had the ML be this cold and the distant person with no care for others except the FL but in this, the ML generally cares for others mainly his sister and does not blindly agree to FL's opinions and values but instead properly discuss with yuri and openly states his own views. which makes him feel realistic and relatable instead of one person solely agreeing with the other because they are wholeheartedly in love with each other it focuses that both of the leads are two different people brought up in different circumstances, values and thoughts so really like when Yuri and Ml had this argument in the recent chapter before the ball. both yuri and Ml stated their opinions openly, also at the same instead of taking the blame of the argument fall on one person both of them realised why their opinions differ on "beauty" because of their raised circumstances and other factors and sorted the argument in a more mature manner where at the end both of them tried to understand each other's perspectives. ╥﹏╥ I am sorry if I sound like I am over analysing their conversation
Nope ur fine, I agree with all of this!
Thanks (≧∀≦)
There’s so much lgbtq shit going on, queen seems like she’s aro since she doesn’t like anyone and doesn’t have that sort of interest. Aenon is some sort of mlm since he likes yuri without realizing she’s a girl, preferably pan sexual since he probably wouldn’t mind that she’s a girl in later chapters and say some line like “it doesn’t matter about ur gender, I like u for who u are”. Yuri is maybe bisexual/Omni/pan since she talks about how she would marry the princess but also likes aenon.
What??? Confusion
*Contains spoilers*
This.Is my hypothesis on what's about to.unfold in.next chapter.
So before sohoo killed himself he was.seeing taker in his dreams telling him to.end his life and trust him so sohoo did as dream taker said and killed himself while the not dream taker tried to stop him and got speared by a mysterious person who taker believed was Deleter and then soohoo dissapeared/died. When Deleter found taker he revealed to him if he eats all the souls he can save soohoo in the past. So taker eats all the souls including soohoo and used that God like power to go to the past and manipulates sohoo dream to kill himself and when it comes time for soohoo to do that he stop.his.past self by stabing him with the spear and takes soohoo away hence why they could not find his body after he "died"
Chicken eating fried chicken. Cursed
But duck eating chicken: Auspicious beginning!
(but I get you; chicken or duck still had a tiny bit of a cannibal vibe, lol)
Man I kinda wish fl would end up alone and be like best friends or like partners with the ml instead of lovers. She gives off a vibe that she is more comfortable being alone and doesn’t really care much, while the ml also gives off that vibe. They seem like they would make way better friends or partners who like u know, everyone thinks is a couple but isn’t? I can’t really imagine that having a lovey dovey love relationship, if u get my point?
That’s an understandable perspective tbh, though I think it could go either way and work out well, I.e. she’s become this way because she’s been betrayed by love to family and even spouse, so she deserves either a complete break away from it if that’s what she wants or an amazing love to make up for it. If he treats her well enough to sway her heart even after all this, I can’t complain :)
Yea I wouldn’t mind them being lovers cause it’s completely understandable. Though having a cute friendship between two *-* faced people seems funny to me lol.
But i also kinda want her to achieve happiness just like any other people for her 7 times dying hopelessly (π-π)
Find true love, marry, create a happy family, and such
I mean love isn’t the only sort of happiness but I get it
Ye true it seems she’s comfortable now but I wanna see her live for herself, not just for revenge but to start with something (or someone) fresh and find happiness in a family, ofc she’s a boss ass bitch- so either way, but I would like her to get the ultimate revenge on her family and show them what love truly is
it's honestly what i would love to see. the fact that romance as a requirement to experience love or happiness, let alone intimacy for a main character is such a common trope, and sends the same message for its readers, when it's not the case at all. it's such a rare thing in this genre.
Yea authors make characters who seem like they want genuine friendships and like family love, and then shove down lovers love down their throat. Most of the time it seems so forced
I mean like she’s comfortable by herself. Like she find comfort in being alone instead of being surrounded by people.
Them being romantic wouldn’t make much of a difference in the relationship they have… And just because you’re in a relationship doesn’t necessarily mean that you have to be lovey-dovey all the time. Though, I read spoilers that once they get together that they are lovey-dovey. And I don’t think whether she gets in a relationship or not doesn’t matters as long as she’s happy, and she’s happy being with him… It’s good that she can find solace in a partner that loves her in the way he does. I see a lot of comments like these, saying they wish her to be single, as if being in a relationship will hold her back from being independent or something… Just the idea that a relationship holds you back/restricts you is toxic. It depends on the person. Not the relationship itself. Axion obviously wouldn’t be the type to do that.
Spoiler;
In her 4th or 5th life, Axion actually took care of her. She was in such a mentally ill state that she was confined to a wheelchair, restrained and scared shitless because her father tried to kill her and make her take the blood to transfer the powers to Ricardo. Axion disowned his own family to take care of her. From her hands to her feet, and was even willing to go to war for her. When she died, he went mad and went on a rampage. He always steps up to protect her, love her, provide for her, tenfold. I think that kind of sincere love is definitely good for her, and can help her recover from her past scars. Axion is definitely good for her, as a romantic partner.
...i dont know how you picked up from our comments that being in a relationship is toxic or hinders growth?.... anyways we seem to be in agreement, op was just wishful thinking
I said that thinking a relationship restrains people is toxic. Not that being in a relationship is toxic.
The point still stands. I agree with you. I don't know how you gathered that wishing singlehood equals viewing relationships as restrictive.
That’s not what I was trying to say. At all. My point was that I notice a lot of people wish a female lead to be single with no romantic interest just because of her laid-back, independent, personality. Some people say things such bad “I wish the female lead was single because she’s already so independent” as if that would change her independence in some way. Which makes no sense. Just because she has such a personality doesn’t mean that she shouldn’t be in a relationship.
*would be (not “was”)
And I also used the phrase, “as if” I was not directly accusing you, I was using that as a transition to refer to the other comments… and then using that to explain how Axion would be perfect boyfriend material for Hilise.
Idc if she gets a lover or not since it’s her happiness but it’s the trope of having strong girls get a lover is so frequent while strong guys in manga/head don’t always have a lover. I’d like to a see a story with a strong female who focuses more on family and friendships more than relationships, and in my opinion I just thought that she would be a good candidate since she is deprived from all love, not just lover love. Although again, I wouldn’t mind her having a lover in the end since it’s for her own happiness and this is all just my selfish wishing.
Ohh, yeah. I understand better. Because there are a lot of male protagonists I see in different manwha, that for some reason, don’t get love interests. A lot of people have the stigma that a female lead in those type of stories would ruin it... But it just depends on whether it’s written well.
Like Cale Henituse, for example. Oh, if there was a female character that was similar to him… Just adventuring around and defeating bad guys with munchkins and no romantic love interests but platonic bonds, that would be great…
Now I want a manwha like that…
Man same, if u ever find one, hit me up ^^
Some of y’all are being way too mean. It’s hard to move on from an unrequited love, and it might seem like he’s not trying, but maybe he is. He needs time to sort out everything because sometimes getting over unrequited love takes years. I hope he gets over it and actually starts liking doha. Though I wouldn’t be mad if doha moved on to someone else during that time cause I get his point of view too.
I didn't mean to dislike it sorryಥ_ಥ and i agree with u(｡•ᴗ-)✧
If he still needs time he shouldn’t be with Doha in the first place. He literally gets on my nerves so much like he could’ve rejected Doha and not lead him on/ making Doha feel like a second choice. Whatever his name needs to get his shit together it’s so annoying. And that teacher better not say he like him or some shit cause nah then hed be a pedo
I get what you're trying to say I've been in an unrequited love too but that doesn't mean he should let doha feel like a second choice or should use doha as a replacement or a tool to forget his first love even though he doesn't mean to do that . He's clearly making doha feel like that. He could have rejected doha at that time or have told that he needs time to move on from his 1st love. But he didn't that's why everyone is being mean to him.
I understand where your coming from but I still think that Doha deserves better. I know that getting over an unrequited love can take time but if Woohyun us already in love with someone, he shouldn't give false hope to Doha who likes him. That's just cruel and sad, Doha knows that Woohyun likes his teacher but he would still feel hurt when you spend time with the guy you like instead of with the guy your dating.
This is complete bullshit, if Mr Nam says that he loves him and Woohyun ends up cheating on Doha with Mr Nam, I'm gonna be soo fucking pissed off yet happy because I think Doha should find a better guy. Also at the beginning when Woohyun said that he doesn't want to loose his best friend, then he shouldn't have accepted the request to go out with Doha in the first place.
Again, because Woohyun agreed to go out with Doha cuz he didn't want to love his teacher, he's basically using Doha as a way for him to forget his unrequited love but at the same time giving false hope to Doha. I feel like Doha is the only one who's gonna get hurt from all this, this is soo infuriating!!!
This manga is made by the same author of Shiawase Gohan - Maki to Hanazawa…..I can’t believe this shit…..