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I mean, while you could look at it that way, it seemed more like they were just talking heads for the authors opinions
Saying stuff like "you can only love one person at a time" and implying that "love=jealousy and possessiveness" is a little much and arguably unnecessary when it was just tacked on to their other argument that was already totally sound

So unless the author is going to actually challenge that notion at any point in this work (prove what they said wrong by having an actual poly romance between named characters at some point) it was just straight up anti-poly

Idk about any "agenda" and I wouldn't go as far as calling it propaganda but it definitely seems to have a pro-monogamy stance

Plus less blatantly stated stuff, like how the direction this arc is going seems to be implying that this character is only "poly" because they're young, lonely, and confused and was saturated in a different culture. A culture where the people of that country have so far been depicted as more animal and less human than the other characters so... that's a choice. (Admittedly, it could have been a choice just to show how bunny boy felt extra ostracized)

And I'm really sorry if this comes off as overly combative over an actual non-issue ┗( T﹏T )┛

But I also just think it's funny that you said "y'all" when there was literally one person in the comments (as far as I could tell) calling this anti-poly propaganda and you didn't even respond directly to them

I say y'all because I’m country, and just because you haven’t seen any more comments doesn’t mean they don’t exist so calm that narrative. But back to your paragraphs:

I mean, I think you’re making a pretty big leap from “these characters said something monogamous” to “the author is pushing an anti-poly message.”

These are literally CHILDREN in high school They’re childish, clueless, and barely understand their own feelings, let alone complicated relationship dynamics. They’re basically going “we like each other, please leave us alone and go bother the older brother instead” lmao. So I don’t think them saying “you can only love one person at a time” automatically means they’re mouthpieces for the author. Characters can have limited or incorrect beliefs without the narrative immediately correcting them, and I don’t think the author needs to introduce a named poly couple just to prove two inexperienced teenagers wrong…

And there’s a difference between the story currently favoring monogamy and the story being anti-poly. A monogamous main romance doesn’t automatically make polyamory something the narrative is condemning.

Same with the bunny boy. You can interpret his loneliness, age, confusion, and cultural background as influencing how he views relationships, but that’s still an interpretation of his characterization, not proof that the author is saying “poly people are lonely/confused” or that his culture is inherently less human. Especially when his cultural difference could just be there to emphasize how ostracized he feels.

Like, you can absolutely read the story as having a pro-monogamy lean. I just don’t think that means these two teenage boys are secretly delivering the author’s relationship philosophy

I kinda agree with you both a bit. Like, yes we can't know for sure the author is anti-polygamy. And, yes they are two teenagers who have very limited experience with the world. However I will argue it does feel a little anti-poly. Bunny Boy doesn't seem to have a very good grasp on relationships or how polygamy works, now that can be limited knowledge of the author or could simply be to show that he struggled to adapt to a culture entirely different then his own. However it is the fact that Ryoto is an adult who is also taking an anti-poly stance and the consistency of this arc tbat makes it feel like the author's stance. The author could make it known that it's just specific characters view points without having to introduce a successful poly couple. That's not my issue. What is my issue is just how much this view point is being driven home with absolutely nothing to challenge it. There is also the fact that the birds, which in actual nature are more monogamous than other animals, are depicted as more animal looking ONTOP of everything else. Like, I get that it's also to drive the point of how different and alone he felt but in combination with the rest of the arc feels a bit like a choice. Like, this has mostly focused on his view of relationships being wrong rather than him not learning from either type of relationship properly due to lack of proper guidance. Like, I'm just saying this could have been handled a little more carefully. But until the author says so clearly we can't actually know their own viewpoint.

Nah frl he wanted to straight up keep going and rape her and these birds in the comments are talking bout how fine he is?!! I can’t wait till we all die bruh

nah cause it felt like she couldn’t do anything to fight back and that was so FUCKED up

Those pick me handmaindens love the cage of patriarchy

Dick gremlin

Yes its actually being weighed down

Now you just made me think the rest is hollow ones WHAHAHAHA

I’m crying this is such a funny way to describe it

no seriously like tae-seo shake yo head and see if you hear rocks