S-So i-if i have fantasies me and my crush doing it, i-its r-rape?? Salvation
It'll depend on the content of the fantasy. If it contains non-consensual acts, then yes, it will fall under rape; take note of the key points "rape in real life" and "rape in fiction", regardless of the medium, it is still rape.
It'll depend on the content of the fantasy. If it contains non-consensual acts, then yes, it will fall under rape; take note of the key points "rape in real life" and "rape in fiction", regardless of the medium... Hani
dang now I have to stop doing it... I did probably 2 or 4 times
I’m not even reading so I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but “non-consensual fantasy” = rape fantasy.
The difference between rape and rape fantasy is one is a crime and the other is not. Some people have fantasies of themselves getting raped, which we call a kink as long as they’re not raping people in real life. Most of these same people wouldn’t want to be raped in real life. Fantasizing about being raped doesn’t mean the person has been raped, fantasizing about raping doesn’t get a person put in jail. And someone that fantasized about being raped, and happens to end up getting raped, wasn’t ‘asking for it’ just because they had it in their head. Because there is a difference between fantasy and reality.
The problematic nature of portraying rape through a medium and romanticizing it is an entirely different conversation, which is what I guess you were trying to get at? Yes, characters in the fictional setting would be committing rape, but the actual existence of the story is not rape. “Non-consensual sex = rape” and “non consensual sex fantasy = rape fantasy”. Rape in real life is just rape. Rape in a fantasy is, at least, a kink, at most, problematic, or most realistically, a tragedy. Rape can be portrayed as exactly what it is, like murder. Murder in fiction does not equal murder in real life. One is a portrayal, one is a crime. When rape is portrayed for the purpose of sexual satisfaction, but it is acknowledged as exactly what it is (romanticization of something that is actually fucked up), and readers are warned of it, it’s mostly a kink. When it’s portrayed for the same reasons without acknowledgement of what it is, then it’s problematic. Even when acknowledged, the audience and consumers of it can make it problematic. Ex: killing stalking. Made with the intention of being a fucked up story. Genre was technically horror/suspense with characters that happened to be gay/bi, many readers read it as romance and gushed about how hot the murderer was. Their own kink is their own kink, and it maybe offended them to have to explain themselves, but many people don’t know the difference between fantasizing about rape and condoning it. In a perfect world, everyone would be able to separate fantasy from reality and there wouldn’t be a need to label it as a fantasy, but people are fucked up, and there are cases where fantasy online can affect troubled people in real life. (A person that actually condones rape reading rape fantasy as if they’ve found a group that ‘understands’ them, possibly actually becomes a rapist, which is an extreme case). In a perfect world, 11 year old boys and girl wouldn’t have that access to adult content in which their impressionable minds are affected by it. Content would just be content and fantasy would just be fantasy if humans could be trusted
I’m not even reading so I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but “non-consensual fantasy” = rape fantasy.The difference between rape and rape fantasy is one is a crime and the other is not. Some peo... WhatAWorld
If anyone desires to read more than the 7 chapters currently uploaded here: The official English translation is up to chapter 20 on WeComics. 17 for free.
I thought this was on hiatus until July. Don’t get me wrong, glad for updates… but the fan translation was so… poorly done. I’m willing to wait for higher quality translations/uploads.
Anyone else confused as to why the author decided Taeyang should be 7... and entering kindergarten? Isn’t that a little too old? Shouldn’t she be in 1st or possibly 2nd grade? (Perhaps schooling is different in Korea?)
Also... why does she look like she’s 3 or 4 if she’s actually 7?
Korea handles aging differently. Children are born 1 year old (the time in the womb, is the first year). Then everyone turns a year older on new years day. Since she was born in August, western aging would have her at 5 years old.
Korea handles aging differently. Children are born 1 year old (the time in the womb, is the first year). Then everyone turns a year older on new years day. Since she was born in August, western aging would h... Nova
How interesting! That totally makes sense, thanks!
Translation Update: “non-consensual fantasy”= rape
huh?? now even fantasies are rape?
S-So i-if i have fantasies me and my crush doing it, i-its r-rape??
It'll depend on the content of the fantasy. If it contains non-consensual acts, then yes, it will fall under rape; take note of the key points "rape in real life" and "rape in fiction", regardless of the medium, it is still rape.
dang now I have to stop doing it... I did probably 2 or 4 times
I’m not even reading so I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but “non-consensual fantasy” = rape fantasy.
The difference between rape and rape fantasy is one is a crime and the other is not. Some people have fantasies of themselves getting raped, which we call a kink as long as they’re not raping people in real life. Most of these same people wouldn’t want to be raped in real life. Fantasizing about being raped doesn’t mean the person has been raped, fantasizing about raping doesn’t get a person put in jail. And someone that fantasized about being raped, and happens to end up getting raped, wasn’t ‘asking for it’ just because they had it in their head. Because there is a difference between fantasy and reality.
The problematic nature of portraying rape through a medium and romanticizing it is an entirely different conversation, which is what I guess you were trying to get at? Yes, characters in the fictional setting would be committing rape, but the actual existence of the story is not rape. “Non-consensual sex = rape” and “non consensual sex fantasy = rape fantasy”. Rape in real life is just rape. Rape in a fantasy is, at least, a kink, at most, problematic, or most realistically, a tragedy. Rape can be portrayed as exactly what it is, like murder. Murder in fiction does not equal murder in real life. One is a portrayal, one is a crime. When rape is portrayed for the purpose of sexual satisfaction, but it is acknowledged as exactly what it is (romanticization of something that is actually fucked up), and readers are warned of it, it’s mostly a kink. When it’s portrayed for the same reasons without acknowledgement of what it is, then it’s problematic. Even when acknowledged, the audience and consumers of it can make it problematic. Ex: killing stalking. Made with the intention of being a fucked up story. Genre was technically horror/suspense with characters that happened to be gay/bi, many readers read it as romance and gushed about how hot the murderer was. Their own kink is their own kink, and it maybe offended them to have to explain themselves, but many people don’t know the difference between fantasizing about rape and condoning it. In a perfect world, everyone would be able to separate fantasy from reality and there wouldn’t be a need to label it as a fantasy, but people are fucked up, and there are cases where fantasy online can affect troubled people in real life. (A person that actually condones rape reading rape fantasy as if they’ve found a group that ‘understands’ them, possibly actually becomes a rapist, which is an extreme case). In a perfect world, 11 year old boys and girl wouldn’t have that access to adult content in which their impressionable minds are affected by it. Content would just be content and fantasy would just be fantasy if humans could be trusted
I didn’t mean for that to be so long lmao
Hands down, you explained it perfectly!