Zero self sufficiency.
We don't have a trained chef so instead of possibly making this meat taste a little gross, we'll just starve.
Also is their no farming? Or foraging? It feels like there would have to be if they were really so secluded.
This author doesn't seem to understand how food actually works in a community or where it comes from.
I mean . . .
Maybe there could actually be something there, where they're missing essential proteins and nutrients because they refuse to eat the meat because it's made people sick and then Senniana just teaches them they have to properly cook it or something like that
It's kinda a silly plotline but maybe that way it doesn't seem just absolutely gobsmackingly unbelievable
I wouldn't say that enjoying a trope in fiction is the same as enjoying it irl, but rather it's the refusal to be critical of these tropes or even allow others to be critical that raises concern. Discussion and criticism is a totally healthy aspect of a community and shouldn't be demonized, and the analysis and critique of enjoyable media is all a part of media literacy.
Though I will say, that it's one thing to critique media and another to judge or condemn those who consume said media based solely on the fact that they enjoy it.
But (for example) if someone in the comments were to read the latest chapter and start "shipping" a literal infant with a grown adult (fictional or otherwise), I think that's condemnable behavior worthy of critique because it does glean insight to a concerning pattern of thought.
Being "sensitive" to troubling themes is not a bad thing and it's those who cry and complain at the sight of criticism that are actually insecure and emotionally/mentally immature
And if you see a take you disagree with, argue if you find that fulfilling or just don't engage, but don't argue and then complain about always having to argue and defend what you enjoy, because frankly, you don't have to. That's a choice you're making.
sure you can be critical of the troupe, but literally for who's sake are you arguing in behalf of? its not like the Japanese/Korean authors are going to roll up and see that WesternReader839 is sick of toxic semes on illegalmangahosting dot cxm and re-evaluate not writing potentially hot garbage.
waste of time, and a bigger waste of time when you realize the amount of analytically challenged children that are on this site that seem unable to actually comprehend what it is they're reading to give a meaningful critque on it to begin with.
It's totally fine for you to think it's pointless to discuss
From my perspective, it has more to do with community engagement and discussing things with people who are also consuming the same media. To me, community discussion is a fun way to validate or challenge my opinions and be social online in a low-stakes environment.
When I engage in a critique or argument, it's more about having my ideas be heard than changing someone's mind (tho I don't object to the latter) and isn't really about changing the media I'm consuming at all
Referencing the part in my original post where I mentioned not to engage in discourse if you don't find it fulfilling - I personally find these discussions very fulfilling (. . .usually) even when talking with people who disagree with me. And if I don't like how someone is talking or think they're being childish, then yeah, I'll disengage. You're right to say it's not worth having discussions like that. Save your time and energy.
Or don't
Do what's best for you or just do what you feel like in the moment :)
When you said that the discussion you just had "proved your point" it really only reaffirmed your own feelings rather than proving anything to anyone else. I'm not saying you should stop talking or sharing your thoughts and opinions, I'm only observing that you seem put out by the discussion which calls back to the question of whether you found partaking in the conversation to be fulfilling. But also it's fine if you want to speak even if you end up frustrated.
Just because you don't want to discuss doesn't mean no one should. Just because you don't find it enjoyable doesn't mean no one does. You (presumably) enjoy your media without discussion, but I'm not the same, and that's okay :)
This is just a long-winded way for me to say nothing really. I don't really think there needs to be a change in how the community on here engages with media or each other. I just think that some people on here are tiring themselves out over discussions that they don't want to or need to be a part of and are getting grumpy about it, but that that's also fine in a way.
A bit of a TLDR on that long ass response I wrote:
I enjoy thinking and talking, even if it's "pointless", and media and comics are fun to think, talk and sometimes argue about. And it's okay for you to not want to do the same
You say it's pointless but it's pointless in the same way that reading or consuming media is as a whole (imo)
my original response was from the side as someone who actually does enjoy opinionated discussions typically, but have found them to be unenjoyable on here because most have a very surface-level takes of the content they read. it was a tongue-in-cheek way of me suggesting for anyone such as myself seeking more meaningful perspectives, or even for perspectives that have understood the media in which they just consumed *at all*, should steer clear of the comments here (and that there's way too many kids on this website). i do understand where you're coming from though; i just like to play devils advocate for the thoughts from others that i find interesting.
I've scrolled through a good crunch of them, and you really expect someone to speak nicely and intelligently to people like you who belittle them by saying they're too sensitive and too young? Can't really understand if you're just being a hypocrite or if you genuinely don't see where the problem lies.
dude, i stopped expecting an intelligent discussion from the people on this platform 4 years ago because they take a facetious comment as an attack on someone else's character somehow (exhibit a right here). i didn't call the original person too sensitive nor too young. i seriously dont understand how you came to that conclusion if you actually read what i said. the person i directed my initial sentiments to seemed to notice that i wasn't saying anything rude to them, so why you're so pressed when YOU decided to reply to ME with an attitude is truly beyond comprehension. you keep saying youll spell it out for me, then be a dear and spit it out already, because im seriously curious as to what you're going on about, and if you yourself know what you're referring to.
my dude... im not targeting anyone and it has nothing to do with the tones nor sides....
and im not relating the "other side" as being children in way of maturity.... im saying there's a large amount of actual kids on this website who are actually incapable of having said nuisance discussions because they're only connecting with the media in a surface level manner....
stop taking my opinion as an actual personal attack please lol. its not that serious.
So I as I commented at the beginning, you did not, and still don't, understand the orignal comment's point at all, else you'd stop critisizing other people's way of giving their opinion. This aside, the site should be more regulated in terms of age matters yes, but let's be real for one second, age doesn't equal a specific form of intelligence, just because the comment lacks actual depths doesn't mean the person who wrote is an actual child, vice-versa.
soooo once again, i didn't criticize the way people gave their opinion either. nor did i ever say that it was *only* children who make up the vapid comments, just that kids contribute a large factor of them. children are inherently considered as such due to the fact that they're mentally underdeveloped, so idk why we're trying to pretend they aren't.
i don't think you understand that i wasn't coming at the original commenter with malice, which is why you keep trying to put words in my mouth. that or you're a kid yourself who has hurt feelings about the kid portion of what i said lmao, and if thats the case, then thats a you problem.
lowkey tired of telling you what i didn't say when what i said is right there in plain day english. it literally can be summed up as "sure you can, but why bother when people are dumb lol." i dont understand how you're somehow missing this.
"waste of time, and a bigger waste of time when you realize the amount of analytically challenged children that are on this site that seem unable to actually comprehend what it is they're reading to give a meaningful critque on it to begin with."
-Your own words since you clearly seem to have forgotten about them even tho you wrote them. Read them again and explain how this isn't you critisizing people.
okay so heres a list of all the things you've tried to say my criticism is about:
1. the original comment in general
>> "you commenting on someone else's comment just to say their comment is pointless is"
2. "belittling" the original commenter by saying they're "too young or too sensitive"
>> "you really expect someone to speak nicely and intelligently to people like you who belittle them by saying they're too sensitive and too young?"
3. the tone in which people give their criticism and the side in which their opinion is coming from
>> "you clearly are only targetting people who are critisizing the manga, and not the tone of people defending it like it was their own talking about a lack of maturity while acting like children"
4. (most recent) the manner in which people give their criticism
>>"you'd stop critisizing other people's way of giving their opinion"
you have subsequently stopped mentioning each one presumably in recognition that it has nothing to do with what i was initially saying. good job! in my most reply to you, i did say that i didn't criticize anyone's *way* of giving an opinion, because i did not. never said there was a certain way to say an opinion, no enforcing certain wordage, none of that.
i DID say "waste of time, and a bigger waste of time when you realize the amount of analytically challenged children that are on this site that seem unable to actually comprehend what it is they're reading to give a meaningful critque on it to begin with."
what is this statement saying? you could read it, but ill go ahead and tell you that its suggesting that its a waste of time trying to engage meaningful/anaylatical discussion with the amount of children who seem to consume yaoi in a vapid manner and aren't mentally mature enough to entertain such conversations. is this saying all children? nope! in even simpler means, its saying its a waste of time bothering because the response you receive might not be as stimulating and well thought out as one might of hoped for. in the simplest of meanings: its a waste of time because it could be unfulfilling/disappointing. you could argue that this is flawed reasoning as well (and it definitely is at its most simplistic state), but not in any of the ways in which you have tried to suggest for the past like two days.
if you're in your feelings that i punctuated my thoughts of theoretical children by saying they're "analytically challenged" and lack reading comprehension, then once again, that is a y o u problem, and i'm afraid i don't care enough to sit here and help you solve it, to be quite real with you. if it helps, next time i make a facetious comment, i'll be sure to include it with an /s or a "lol" at the end so those such as yourself don't get indirectly insulted to the point where you're taking up arms in defense for the hapless.
It's tiring to speak with someone as tone deaf as you, the point of a public comment section is to freely comment what you want without arrogant people such as yourself calling it pointless or "analytically challenge".
I don't dwell on each of my point everytime I respond coz you obviously have an issue with owning to what you write and I don't wish to waste more time on a point when I know you're just gonna keep denying it.
Or just straight up misunderstand what I said, like the thing about "belittling the original commenter" when I was clearly mentioning comments as in plural (hence why I wrote "I read through a good chunk of them").
Have at least the decency to stop inventing new meaning to your sentences, especially since it's not like you left any room to interpretation. I can't believe you still have the nerve to say you got what the og commenter was saying and you still continue to argue about "children" supposedly not having a deep enough understanding on a subject to leave an opinion.
once more, the only person offended by what i said, and thought it was an attack against the original commenter, is you. they responded, seemingly taking no offense with what I said, and i even let them know that i understood what they're getting at. ive been passive aggressive with YOU because thats how you started off replying to me. if you're not "dwell" (read: prove) on each one of your accusations, then im not quite sure why you bothered to bring them up in the first place, but yet here we are i guess.
moving forward, i do implore you to not take what's said in the comment sections too close to heart to the point where your making leaps just to interpret what someone's saying and turn it to something else when its true meaning isn't even that complicated! i even simplified it for you, and you still just don't want to acknowledge it, so it truly is moot to continue rehashing the same thing~
I think it's really fitting and really satisfying that Nasia is a lesbian considering The Little Mermaid's historical gay-ness uvu
Exactly this :>
My favorite part is how the little mermaid would dance for the prince despite the feeling of needles in the soles of her feet just to make him smile, just like how the author would do all he could to express his love through his actions and endured all his own pain in silence. That and how at the end when the prince married another woman, the mermaid was offered the opportunity to free herself and stab him, but she chose to spare him at the cost of her own life and she turned to seafoam.
Idk it really just speaks to me and reminds me of the feelings surrounding my first queer crush/relationship which is kinda cool
That was horrific
So basically he's being punished for "treating women like crap" but idk how much of that even makes sense.
One of the issues was that he kept getting his girlfriend pregnant, but he wasn't even ridiculed for having unprotected sex because the doctor also just does that, he was ridiculed for "cumming inside someone he doesn't even love" which is weird to me, because even if you don't fully ejac when inside, its still possible to cause pregnancy. And I don't like how it was a man's job to have to explain that to him, I feel like that's a conversation his gf should have had with him and that if that conversation went south, she needed to let him go.
The GF was actually obsessive and toxic so that's one of the biggest reasons I was kind of questioning if any of this "punishment" made sense
As far as we know the only the he did wrong was cheat on his past girlfriend and continued to finish inside his gf after she asked him not to (we assume, because it's not confirmed whether she even addressed that to him or not)
So yeah, he's a shitty guy but it just doesn't sit right with me that his punishment comes from a cheater and someone who also has casual unprotected sex.
Oh, and whatever body horror entity it was that kept ripping vulvas/vaginas into his flesh for nonsensical reasons
Kyoujima is genuinely so sweet and respectful I just can't ╥﹏╥
I was really worried that this would be another one of those SA tropes where the uke gets cornered or manipulated (which I would have still read, it just wouldn't have been as enjoyable) but this exceeded my expectations entirely
Instead we have a bottom who is independently very sexually open and curious and a top who's very considerate of boundaries and consent, even when the bottom isn't thinking about them himself in his excitement.
Two of my favorite things, I honestly couldn't be happier rn and I just love them and love their dynamic quq
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