Huh. That was unexpected.
Personally, this was a little hard to read because I wasn't a fan of the art style and overall it was a little boring.... The art did improve at some point
But then there was that fugly ass dress.
I had to put this down for a few weeks as soon as I saw her debut dress. Literally everything clashes design-wise lol. There's the halter shaped turtle neck neckline that gave a more mature vibe that directly clashes with the bright innocent pink and the flared skirt. The lace sleeves? They looked so old fashioned and and disconnected from the rest of the top. It reminded me of when I would where a frumpy T-shirt under my cute dresses to go to Sunday school because I was Mormon and showing your shoulders was practically pornographic. The low waistline just looked.... Odd and created this overly stretched out silhouette, and the way they had the dress bagging out above the ribbon really just contributed to the whole frumpy look. Like... Why is a custom dress for a formal even not form-fitting? Why is it loose and baggy? And if the whole design went that direction and looked flowy or fluffy, that would be one thing. But no. It looked baggy. And it's even more insane to me, because literally EVERY OTHER DRESS in this ENTIRE MANHUA has looked better. A lot of them are still questionable but none have lived for weeks, rent-free in my brain like this.
This is a ridiculously long paragraph for such a non-issue, but I have never felt so baffled by a fashion choice in a manhua.
Yeah, she hurt people while experimenting and that's not okay. She should have been far clearer, especially with her coworker, that she wasn't looking to be in a committed relationship with him.
...but at the same time she didn't know that. She's been in one relationship for 7 years, so she's doing a lot of learning right now and is hopefully becoming a better person by learning from her mistakes. I think it makes her a very compelling and realistic character (especially since it shows her regretting her actions).
I know I certainly regret some of the choices I made in past relationships-
Anyway, I think the people calling the plot of this one disgusting are a little strange, especially the ones directing all the vitriol at the FL. The two previous love interests both did some pretty egregious nonconsensual things imo that no one really seems to acknowledge or care about. Choking your partner without consent? Inseminating your partner without consent?? That's crazy violating and has been overly normalized by porn (....like this manga low-key, but anyway-)
Yes, she hurt their feelings (especially the second guy), but they both got violent (for different reasons) and did things that physically violated her body. And frankly, I think that's worse. Even if she didn't personally feel victimized, it doesn't mean she wasn't a victim.
Also, encountering those things nonconsensually is unfortunately also very realistic in adult relationships (ask me how I know) and I wish more folks new how to stand up for themselves and not let a sexual partner convince them it's okay to treat their body, consent, and autonomy carelessly.
Side-note: I cried so much when we got into the chapters about her childhood
Ngl I also don't understand manhua crowd morality standards like they really treat cheating as a sin but murder is OK and grape is ok if they fall for the other person later ??
Learning about her childhood Made me Munster character a bit more. And her sperm/egg donors can go to hell fr I’m so glad she has narin! I think she did meet her Prince Charming in a way. Yea the first guy lost me since the choking incident. And her coworker is just as messy as she is. But I feel our girl is handling herself pretty well her heart to heart with narin proved it to me. I love how she went back to her career and the second time got a bit of success from it. I hope her characterization gets stronger forwards the end
Murder...did i miss something?!
Lol, I don't think they were referring to this manhua in particular
Just the trend of opinions you can see on this site under manhua that do contain those things
Yup yup sorry if I gave anyone a misunderstanding!! I was talking in general in fandoms not specifically this manhua
Ohh ok
I thought I couldn't read for a second.
Especially in these latest chapters, they're missing the communication element that makes BDSM so intimate. Communication and consent are sooo sexy and it's just not here
I mean we're basically told after the fact that it was good and they both enjoyed it, but during the plays, neither the visuals nor dialogue paint a clear enough picture as to whether things are going well or if one of them is actually genuinely upset or being pushed too far which just makes me kinda stressed the whole time rather than really getting into it and being on board with what they're doing
Yeah some inner dialogues made me think whether it was truly fine bc dom never really checked for red lights ;-; I got anxious
Right!!! I was panicking when the sub's inner monologue saying that he didn't like it at first #－.－) like like he's tied up and being gagged, do they even have a nonverbal cue for the safeword??? It was so alarming that I can't even enjoy the smut ( ；∀；)
I feel like this might become a plot point later on in the story if the author remembers to
Communication needs to be separated from DS play (especially for this couple with where they are in the early stages of their relationship), something I HOPED they learned last time when the dom pushed the sub into genuine distress because he used his domination rp to be all passive aggressive about his feelings AND HES FUCKING DOING IT AGAIN
HE WAS SO EXCITED TO TRY REAL BONDAGE FOR THE FIRST TIME and then how he immediately felt like the whole experience is ruined because the dom is being an actual piss baby and throwing a tantrum is sooo tragic and actually makes me so sad
Domming like this to vent your feelings out onto your partner is such an inappropriate (and borderline abusive) outlet
It's one thing to do a jealous partner rp with full informed consent from both parties, but that's not what this was. The play was bondage and the jealousy isn't being roleplayed. It's real and making him act like a dick and do things that his partner may or may not have agreed to in a stable state of mind & body (...not that he's even properly asking/communicating how this "play" goes even in the moment but whatever). And ANSWERING HIS PHONE??? That is a violation on soooo many levels (and is a personal pet peeve of mine since it happens in wayyy too many manga for actually no reason)
It's not the biggest deal since it is just fiction
But real people (some very young and impressionable) read this and internalize this kind of shit
And this manga in particular is pretty indepth on a lot of the aspects of bdsm stuff so it's not hard to imagine someone buying into it 100%
THIS! You put what I was thinking perfectly. I already thought he crossed the line during role play, but seriously.
This shit keeps finding new ways to piss me offfff
Like... If the main character wasn't so genuine, I could have a great time reading all the crack yaoi behaviors of these fuck ass men
But no, it's like a softcore torture porn where every other guy is just physically assaulting or disrespecting him in every scene
She really choked there.
No helpful dreams to teach you how to slap someone to shut their bitchass up?
Like... He's already right behind her, but you're telling me he wasn't close enough to hear her literally scream at that freak to put his clothes on 2 seconds ago ?
Yeah. Ok. For drama. And he's gonna be such a piss baby about it and throw a tantrum. Ew.
Author-nim, who hurt you and why are you taking it out on us? Why would you do this to them
I started reading this when I was in highschool. These are my comfort characters. I feel like I grew up along side them.
AND YOU'RE HURTING THEM
WHY
STOP IT WTF