Byakurooney

You clearly dont know historical drama troups lmao
As shitty as it is, its all about clinging to the thickest thigh but i assure you our little prince loves his male wife dearly and this little wife is just worrying for nothing.

The webtoon misses out alot of internal monologue that can really make you see how genuine our mc is to pursue wifes happiness. And if you are reading the novel you will definitely realise our prince isnt scheming enough to do aphrodisiac.





Plus a hint: did you know its crime to uses aphrodisiac ? Drama is going to go down in the household AHAHAHA

Is there a translated version of the novel?

there is . here's the link

https://chrysanthemumgarden.com/novel-tl/twf/

Yeah I read a few historical manhuas and each time the ML is some crazy bast*rd, I know it. And I know that in this manhua they love each others very much, they are really fluffy together.
But love can't be used as an excuse to force someone to have sex when he has a trauma. I think the MC has to take his time until he's not bothered by physical contact so they can both enjoy the sex.

But why so quick to judge, we, well you still don't know who put the aphrodisiac in his meal.
And regarding intercourse with his spouse, since he came back he never forced mc to have sex with him, he even feel regret about what happened, he was angry at himself so he left but mc misunderstood thinking he was angry at him.

And nanny didn't say anything bad since she doesn't know what happened during the wedding night.
For now there's no victim blaming anywhere.

I know he didn't put the aphrodisiac, and I know that the ML doesn't want to force the MC. The problem here is how the author makes the MC have self-blaming thoughts. That is victim-blaming.

And the nanny did say something bad. It's the same speech that is given everytime to women :" have sex with your husband, even if you don't want bc it's your duty and he can leave you for another if you don't satisfy him "

I agree. No one should rush others or themselves into having intercourse when they’re not ready. When I saw the nanny saying that to him, I was like

Don't jump into conclusions.... that's all I'm going to say

Omgg thank youuuu <3

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Ermm when did she say that.....she told him the plain truth without knowing any back story she didn’t know he was forced on his wedding night....incase you forgot this is what she said
“The ML is a young and very agile given he’s sweet he still has desires which ain’t wrong and there are a lot of people who would want to sleep with him she’s not wrong and the worst thing that could happen is he likes someone else which isn’t wrong considering the times they lived in, except he won’t cause she doesn’t knows he’s re-living his life and she doesn’t know her ward was forced on his wedding night so what is your point exactly” don’t nitpick everything stating negative facts if you’re not going’to step back and consider other situations which someone else has also stated

I don’t understand what y’all are on about.....first off the nanny didn’t say anything wrong given the era they live in, this is exactly the reality of things which she’s obviously stating, secondly when did she say sleep with him now, she only said given he’s sweet to you know that he’s a man who has sexual needs and in the worst case scenario he’ll like someone else....which isn’t a lie or something that is surprising, given the ERA they live in, y’all should take all those into consideration and this modern way of thinking wasn’t exactly welcomed in those days okay and if the uke had told her the seme forced himself on him, she would have given a better advice but take other facts into play here okay

Thanks!!

You have to consider the time here. The nanny doesn’t know the situation or anything. Our ML aka princy boy, is a prince, so she’s right, he has tons of people wanting to sleep with him. Because of this and the fact that she doesn’t know that Mc has trauma, I think she’s kind of just assuming or thinking that our mc is kind of taking advantage of the ML’s patience or something like that. Due to all of that, she told him that he shouldn’t wait that long or anything cause ML is at a age where his hormones are wild and with his statue/power, he can go off with anyone and nobody would really care cause he’s a prince. Back in that time, advices were usually like that, some very aggressive to the point of force while in rare cases you have people who are genuinely trying to help without a clue like nanny. Also the other thing is, the manhua hasn’t exposed who put the drug in, so you can’t just assume that ML and nanny are forceful. Also, your quote was wrong, very wrong. She never said that and she didn’t say “it’s your duty and yada yada” she simply said (without a clue of why MC doesn’t wanna have sex yet again) that he shouldn’t wait too long, as in he can take his time but like not that longgg because she assumes that ML is just some horny prince and the classical mean impatient type of prince that were commonly found back then. Also having the favor of your husband was a huge thing back then, if your husband grows bored or tired of you and goes/sleeps with someone else, you could be shamed, lose your statues, be painted in a horrible light which kind of ruins your reputation, and other terrible things. And due to the ML statues, it would be so easy for him to just destroy someone’s life if he wanted to cause again HES A DUCKING PRINCE. Also MC’s self guilt tripping is also a common thing cause he thinks that ML is angry at him for not having sex with him and stuff (which he’s not, he’s really understanding and sweet), and he doesn’t want to lose this favor he has cause then he’s life is basically over, he can’t rise back up to have a good reputation cause he’s an illegitimate child, hated by his family and kind of kicked out of it, he’s a male wife, and he’s the reason why ML is so occupied to pay attention to other noble girls who have high statue families.

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It’s actually that Song girl who ordered a servant to serve the drug.

I don’t care what era she’s in, she’s still wrong in the MODERN era, which is the era we live in. I’m pointing it out so anyone that reads this KNOWS it’s wrong because not everyone automatically knows it is. Knowing what is victim blaming and what’s not is very important, so pointing this kind of stuff out isn’t harming anyone. I can still enjoy the story while pointing out the flaws of the characters.

I'm not sure this was the purpose of your comment but if you say so.
Victim blaming is quite a specific word and doesn't apply to this situation.
I could say maybe it was guilt tripping, but nor the ML or the nanny did any of that.
Imagine going to someone explaining to them you have some conflicts with your spouse and you think he's mad at you because you didn't have any sexual activity after the wedding night. Sex being quite a big part of a couple intimacy I wouldn't find weird for someone to advice you to just go on and do it, since you didn't say why you didn't want to.

Now you talked about how the author was victim blaming... How ?
Like how else should they portray the main character internal conflict?
MC is sexually attracted to the ML but still can't go all the way with him. He doesn't know that ML is feeling remorseful about what happened and MC feels bad because ML is actually acting kindly.
They still didn't went over what happened that night, didn't talk about their feelings and MC is still wary of him.
With all this misunderstanding how should the author write the MC pov? And it's not like the story line is forcing MC into having sex even if he doesn't want to. More like the doubt are pushing the story so they can clear up ML intentions.
So easy with the words. I could understand if some people wouldn't get that it's fictional that everything is pushing towards the plot but still this story is quite morally neutral, not too bad.

Okay maybe victim blaming was not the right word but it's quite a close term for what is happening here, the self-harming thoughts the MC has.

In the manhua the MC never thought once " I want to kiss him " or " I want to have sex " but " I think he ( the ML ) wants to kiss me " or " will he be happy if I do that ". He only think about his husband's desires.

Moreover the ML doesn't need to " go over " that night since it's him who forcefully had sex with the MC. Only the MC has to go over since he's the victim.

And yes, it's fictional. But the problem is when we see all day mangas like this or worse ( in term of sexual assaults reactions ) and nobody tell us it's wrong, then some people will think it's right or normal.

I don’t recall ever saying that the author was victim blaming, where did you even reach that conclusion? And also, THATS the only thing you got from my comment? She’s definitely guilt tripping, but you can tell she’s implying that it would be HIS fault if his husband decided to sleep with other people. Which, given the situation wouldn’t be necessarily victim blaming, but it would be wrongfully saying that he should have pushed himself despite being not ready to engage in sex to avoid his husband sleeping with other people. And while I shouldn’t have inappropriately thrown around the term victim blaming, having this mindset is still harmful, regardless of the term.

I dont understand why you are pushing modern era views here lmao
People know that this kind of mindset is unacceptable in modern era alright? Jesus christ do you need to please your partner through sex nowadays, no, I dont think so plus people arent princes of dynasties anymore where pleasing the higher ups is important. No need to point it out captain obvious. We are reading this to witness an authors capability to write and entertain us not point fingers like “ew authors are always like this they always write plots that is victim blaming” without even reading the whole story and just jumping to conclusions.

Plus Read stories with an open mind, UNDERSTAND this is just fictional that will entertain us. if the prince does something upsetting it doesnt affect modern era its just a story and if you are somewhat seeing a story as a set to norm like since abuse is so common in stories you read so its going to be emulated irl then i unfortunately will have to advice you to get your head checked.

Dont ruin this webtoon for yourself by comparing how good your values are irl vs the values of a story that is supposedly historical. Read with an open mind. Be patient and just watch it unfold then if the story is shit then complain.

It’s as if you didn’t read my comments at all. Not everyone reading this automatically knows that this behavior is unacceptable. That is why we’re pointing it out. It’s ignorant to assume that everyone has learned that this is wrong. Why are you so bothered by people pointing out what is obviously wrong? This in itself does not ruin my experience because I understand that there will inevitably be characters who are not perfectly moral, but that does not mean that I am not allowed to point of flaws in characters.

Anyway this is really going overboard if y'all were talking about real events now I would side with you, if the story was portraying modern era I would maybe agree with you, if the characters thought process and actions were realistical I would agree with you.

But this whole thing is so fictional with the only purpose to entertain so I really doubt anyone would be taking anything that is happening in this story as factual, and some kind of lesson to learn.

If they are too young and gullible maybe they shouldn't even be on this app.
At this point I'm not even sure we are reading the same story

Exactly my point it’s a historical story....an Era were they are so closed minded and don’t understand rights and freedom, but here someone comes judging with a whole different perspective and starts uttering words and phrases that I find rather incredulous and actually closed minded because your ability to see things from a broad perspective shows how exactly better we are from them, mehnnn I’m just like what is this person on about .

Oh my fucking God. The author hasnt done any that's completely fucked up or whatever. AGAIN, THIS IS SET IN ANCIENT CHINA. DO YOU THINK, AN ANCIENT SETTING IS GONNA HAVE MORALS???? HELLOOO THEY TREAT HIM AS A WIFE NOT A HUSBAND, AND BACK IN THAT TIME, WIVES WERE BASICALLY JUST SLAVES TO THE HUSBAND. HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE OTHER GIRLS IN THE STORY TRY TO BUTTER UP TO THE PRINCE AND SHIT, CAUSE AGAIN, HES A PRINCE. BACK THEN, IT DIDNT MATTER IF YOUR A GIRL OR BOY, YOU STILL GOTTA DO EVERYTHING FOR THE ROYALS SINCE THEIR HIGHUPS WHO CAN DESTROY YOU. LOOK AT THAT SONG GIRL, ML KNOWS ABOUT HER SCHEMES, WHICH EVERYONE ELSE DOESNT, AND HE ALMOST DESTROYED HER STATUES. THATS WHY, MC AN ILLEGITIMATE WHO WASNT ACCEPTED BY HIS FAMILY, OR AS A SCHOLAR AND WHAT NOT, HAS REALLY NO STATUES AND IF HE LOSES THE FAVOR OF THE PRINCE, THEN HIS REPUTATION WHICH IS ALREADY SHIT AFTER BEING A MALE WIFE, IS GONNA BE GONE. THATS WHY, A NANNY WHO DOESNT KNOW THE SITUATION OR THE MC NOT TELLING HER WHY, WOULD JUST ASSUME THAT HES SCARED OF THE PAIN (as in he didnt try it yet) AND JUST TOLD HIM TO GO FOR IT BECAUSE THE ML IS TREATING HIM KIND RN. ALSO HIGHUPS AND ROYALS HAVE A SHIT TON OF CONCUBINE AND SOMETIMES JUST FORGET THEIR MAIN WIFE OR DEMOTE THEIR STATUE AS MAIN WIFE. IF THE PRINCE FAVORED ANOTHER, HIS STATUE WOULD BE GONE AND HE WOULD BE MOCKED/BULLIED/OR NEVER RISE UP AGAIN, SINCE HES ALREADY FAILED SCHOLAR, ILLEGITIMATE CHILD, CONCUBINE SON, MALE WIFE, AND NOW LOSING HIS STATUE CAUSE HE COULDNT SATISFY THE PRINCE. Any outsider in that time would give advice like that because they dont want this dude to just lose his whole fucking statue, reputation, or even his life.

Oh my God. How tf are u gonna call this minor thing unacceptable when this is a historical story. History isnt colorful and rainbows, especially China. He is treated as a wife, not a husband, hence why hes called wife. Since he is a Male wife, his statue falls behind a female wife, which is already shit because ancient China didnt give a shit about women unless they were slaves for sex or what not. He already doesnt have any statue since he'd an illegitimate child, concubine son, failed scholar, and now a male wife. Everyone pacifies the highups especially royals, like look at the Song girl.ML almost DESTROYED her statue cause he knows her schemes, but everyone just thinks that he lost favor of her and now favors the MC. This would make someone like MC especially scared because he has no statues to back him up and his only statue he can rely on is um his statue of being married to a prince. If the ML lost favor of him, got with another, and divorced, he would be mocked/shamed/bullied/killed/or never be able to rise up again. That's why nanny who doesnt know why hes scared cause he didnt tell her, gave him that advice to warn him of the outcome that he may face for continuously rejecting without a reason (cause again she doesnt know). Her intention wasnt to guilt trip or victim blame, rather to warn him, but that could've been executed way better. But again this is ancient China setting and advices were commonly given like that.

Because it is unacceptable, am I wrong? I don’t care what her intentions were, but damage can be done without intent. Being a historical story or being a fictional story does not mean I cannot criticize a character for their flaws and I have NEVER criticized the author for including this, only the characters. You must have some childish mindset that people inputting their slight disagreement of a character means hating the story, therefore they should just stop reading or some shit like that. And if we were going to treat this historical story with realism, their relationship would not be sustainable with Confucianism ideology. Realistically speaking, A male would not be in the position of being the only lover that an emperor slept with because that would mean there would be no sons to inherit the position, thus the emperor would have to receive backlash or criticism.

I clicked the wrong person, not you I mean the other person

i was only replying for translated novel link and somehow caught up in this heated convo (￣∇￣")

╮(￣▽￣)╭, well you did God's Job now you can sit back and enjoy all the drama

Exactly, amen. I hate how Jane here is trying to throw the gullible or the immature crowd around and that they will follow the example of a stories morale to real life here. If you dont even know whats right or wrong amd you are consuming content then you shouldnt be here in the internet because oh boy the things we find are unlimited.

This story isnt even a huge contrast to that and in the first place we all argued because someone thought his mindset of forcing himself to submit to sex is wrong when he misunderstood why the prince got sulky. The man has regretted his action and the other misunderstood his regret as dissatisfaction. Whats there to dig deeper about??? That its not morally acceptable in the modern era to advice a wife that they should have sex soon with their husband to conduct a healthy relationship? I think if were going at it in modern era then i think its none of our business what goes on to peoples bedroom manners because there is literally no form of abuse if we look at this as just two married couple whose first time was bad and traumatizing. Plus male wife already established that his husband is good theres trust here its just that hes guilty that he gets afraid that hell end up getting hurt again if they ever do intercourse. PLUS reread the story, after prince woke up again rebirth this time he did not neglect post care to his wife. He even made him rest instead of attending when his older brother visited.

Aight im done thats all my 2cent hahaha i just really love this novel because its all fluff and has been one of my serotonin machines. （＾◇＾）

I could kiss you honestly, I don’t know who this Jane person is but like whoever they seriously need to have a more broad and open mind and like I feel like they just want to find negativity where there’s none...like people genuinely just want to nitpick for negativity, or like just want the seme to be trash in every story

Having an open mind would mean that you COULD criticize a story and still enjoy it. You guys are simply blowing things out of proportion because you think this story cannot be criticized because it’s taking place in a historical setting. I think the seme is a very good person, but that does not mean that I’m not allowed to have personal speculation on characters. You’re throwing around the term “open mind” without knowing what it means.

This was never about the prince in the first place. It was about the nanny. But you wouldn’t know that because you skimmed through my comments. Again, not everyone reading this knows it’s wrong because there will inevitably be MINORS on this app when they shouldn’t be. There is absolutely no harm in pointing out the obvious wrong of this story so people in real life know how to distinguish guilt tripping and wrongful blaming. If you know already, GOOD FOR YOU. But not everyone will know, stop being ignorant.

Ok, you and another person critiqued something. Good job. others critiqued in your critique. Good job. Now let’s end all this because this little minor detail doesn’t really do much.

Sigh WTF man

go die somewhere bruh wtf grossssssss

I dont think the cousin blused. The MC puched/hit him across the face which resulted in the cousin getting a bruse on his cheek. So i think it was just the bruse that you saw and now blush(￣∇￣")

and not blush****