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can lgbtq+ women stop preaching about straight women fetishizing gay men?
y'all are just as capable of fetishizing gay men as well. fyi, being lgbtq+ doesnt give you a free pass and y'all love to pull the "yaoi was founded by lgbtq+ women and they used it to express themselves reeeeee" yeah bc expressing yourself through r@pe fetishism between gay men is something to be proud of. big yikes. (the fact that yaoi esp. from pre 2010 era is known for its romanticism of r*pe is pretty creepy ngl). there is nothing wrong w consuming mlm content as a woman straight or not just dont be a creep about it. it's not hard. im all for addressing problematic behavior but lbr, lgbtq+ women are quick to call out straight women while simultaneously doing the same thing
I’m not going to lie you sound very problematic.
You are putting all queer women under one umbrella due to what seems like a few bad experiences. I have never in my entire life seen one queer women say, “yaoi was founded by lgbt+ women” which is 100% a false statement. Yaoi the large majority of the time is written by straight women for strai...... 4 reply
Yaoi wasn't invented by queer women, it was invented by cishet women to express themselves in different sexual norms and inserting themselves into romance - hence why so many yaoi and other BL manga play the same way as a cishet relationship, why so many characters are "women." reply
Uuuuhm... since when are queer women saying this... like ever?
Weird thing to gatekeep about and if any queer binary leaning or not femme said this that's... a pretty twisted mentality.
Historically speaking shounen ai is another thing altogether but yaoi is clearly a straight women industry for one I mean older yaoi used to just be the notion of ...... 1 reply
Growing up in a very homophobic, religious country, I think I might not have been an lgbtq+ ally if I haven't discovered BL in my teens. While BL doesn't accurately represent MLM relationship in real life, it sure beats the way gay people are represented in our media. All my life I was taught that they were predators, they were gross etc, before I ...... reply
Woah didn't know it was founded by an lgbtq+ person. I thought it was a from a woman with a bl fetish. Oh well! ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I don't give two sh*ts about what they have to say about my yaoi fetish. I recently came to like yaoi when I learned that it's not really about supporting lgbtq+( although I've seen seen some like that and ignore it.) Yo...... 2 reply
short answer no ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
the long answer is there will always be kink shamers out there whether your fetish is gay men, furries, bdsm, feet, etc. my advice is just ignore them there's always gonna be someone preaching i'm lgbtq+ so i got a lot of hate in the past from my country christians or hillbillies calling it perverted for "liking" ...... 3 reply
Everyone is offended like some special snow flakes so I choose to do whatever the fuck I want and Yes when OP says LGBTQ women they meant "those" problematic ones with a god complex
TF you want OP to mention them by name? for those saying "oooh we are grouping now?" cut the bs and use your brain pls or just leave the platform
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idk where you heard that from but i havent heard any wlw claiming that yaoi was founded by wlw?? its common knowledge that yaoi is usually drawn by straight women for straight women, especially because yaoi couples are often extremely heteronormative (seme = very manly, uke = very feminine).
theres nothing wrong with reading mlm fiction as a heter...... 1 reply