I honestly don't fully understand or have the whole context on what happened, but man this is one of the reasons as to why I rlly hate a lot of kpop stans. Like I understand, enhypen is one of the popular groups rn, with a rlly young fanbase who is very parasocial with the members... But fr??? This poor girl omg. And also, idc if she was acting weird, it's never an excuse to send DEATH THREATTSSS. And some of engenes on twitter acting as if they didn't contribute the hate she got... They got their asses exposed. Just rlly unfortunate that bullying and harassment got this far.
i don't believe in making a death person look like the saint of the saint just because they died If you did wrong, it should be brought up just as much as your good actions. Cause there's NO such thing as a perfect human being. that been said, she was a ssg, aka a stalker fan and the main issue arises after 3 things: 1) some fans hated her before because she had money... then it was revealed she's a ssg, which made the hate grow because she did have attitudes that could put NIKKI in danger 2) there were videos of her yelling, treating other members badly, pushing/stomping on other fans during meetings at the vip section, all just to get NIKKI to notice her 3) there's testimonies and video where is ALLEGEDLY shown, how she would make NIKKI feel uncomfortable. For example, there's a video of a meeting organised for fans that bought VIP tickets for their concert. There, Nikki already looked at her, shook her hand, so he proceeds to go talk with other fans. The girl in question begins to whimper, scream, squirm erratically and call his name desperately. Nikki turned his head, looked at her with a mixture of confusion and disgust, then waved at her and turned back to keep greeting other fans. now. Did she deserve to die? No, y'all could've just reported her accounts or sent trucks to hybe just like you did when they had female dancers for one comeback. Was she a good person? No. Was she a bad person? No. Did she made fans and the members uncomfortable? Yes. Did she treat other members badly? also yes. Besides the stomping and pushing, did she ever cause real damage or injured someone out of jealousy/bosses? No. Was she the ONLY ssg? No. Did she actually die? We don't know, cause real info is getting mixed up with IA, and some users on twt are making gore videos of her with ia just to spit on her even more... which is weird...
i got all of this info after doing a deep dive on her situation. Just to be clear, she was a fansite that traveled, moved to, went to and participated in everything the group announced or even just casual plans... and sweetie that's a ssg. like it or not, she was a ssg, and that doesn't make her someone who "earned" to die nor be hated. her being a ssg doesn't mean you can't defend her or feel sorry for how she spent a good amount of her last days surrounded by hate comments and death threats.
I understand ur point, but this is very dismissive. Idk if ur intent is to inform, OR give those deranged fans an excuse to cling on that justifies on why they harassed her. Sorry, but I don't think ppl who felt sorry for Mina ever claimed she was a cutie patootie. She's definitely some sort of saesang if one of the member from enhypen got weirded out by her. Idk, maybe u should've posted this whole text to someone who whole heartfelt believes Mina is innocent. My point is, she off herself cuz of deranged fans(that is no different from her..) who harassed and send her death threats over something like that. They could've chose a different approach. Just like u said, report her account, AND report her to hybe. Also, I'm not justifying saesangs in any way. They r one of the scums of the world, and I hate how companies don't bother blocking these ppl cuz they need them for profit Then again, anyone who thinks Mina is somehow a saint clearly didn't rlly know a lot of information, or is a normie who doesn't know how the kpop world works. And that is not what the point of my post is. Though I do agree on u with not honoring ppl who died as if they r saints, but that's an entirely different topic. I'm just pointing out how she got harassed so bad to the point of offing herself.
Nobody is making her saint, just as you said it's completely normal reaction to feel bad about her situation. You casually making a list on why people hated her seems very insensitive knowing that someone just died..? Like.. What's the point..? Mind you, two people have died because of this fandom and yall can stomach to casually say this.
Also kpop stans are fuckinf weirdos, if I'm correct the whole "chuu" Trend idk the girl kpop, where they made it a trend to doxx people. Most of the victims were minors and or ppl who slightly disagreed or just disliked kpop. They weren't even assholes that they doxxed. I wish people put effort on hating to actual weirdos like mfs that makes rape jokes or wtv "dark joke"
You should see how they're still making her and using her as content too. I couldn't believe they would stoop that low. Also Idk if they're actually fans or troll accounts.
K-Pop fans always blame everyone but themselves when shit like this happens, they're all mentally ill. That poor girl took her own life partly because of these sickos and these bitches only care about how this could possibly affect that failure of a talentless group and it's worthless members. Disgusting. Rest in peace, Mina.
Okay, let's be real now. Enhypen is clearly not talentless or a failure when they can literally sing AND dance at the same time.. they stay booked and busy cuz they definitely have big demand.. so they r definitely successful. Like I understand ur point at the beginning, but let's not call these idols "worthless", as if they r not human too. We can be woke, but have some empathy.
Okay, let's be real now. Enhypen is clearly not talentless or a failure when they can literally sing AND dance at the same time.. they stay booked and busy cuz they definitely have big demand.. so they r defini... YoBologna
they are worthless tho. not standing up for a single important thing even once in their lives. and not just this group but every single kpop group has ties with zionists, misogynists, rape apologists, racists, e t c. so yeah, them dancing and singing isn't fucking worth anything if they're continuing to stay silent regarding anything that is actually important or worthwhile gimme a break fuck. i'll save my empathy for people who don't have a choice to escape the open air prison they are forced into. for those choosing to stay silent they can go fuck themselves.
they are worthless tho. not standing up for a single important thing even once in their lives. and not just this group but every single kpop group has ties with zionists, misogynists, rape apologists, racists, ... irino
Prioritise humanity over fucking worshipping useless idols, I agree 100% with your reply.
they are worthless tho. not standing up for a single important thing even once in their lives. and not just this group but every single kpop group has ties with zionists, misogynists, rape apologists, racists, ... irino
U do realize we ALL have some sort of ties with fucking Isnotreal?? Pretty much every brand, apps, sites, and etc, r somehow supporting Isnotreal. I understand being so fucking woke, that ur angry not everyone is gonna shout at the top of the buildings of what is right. Cuz ur right, everyone, especially those who have a platform should do the same. But I also don't blame them hello?? Especially fucking kpop artists LMFAOOO the issue with a lot of u guys who r woke without no empathy, and treat other humans who aren't activists/100% perfect, is that u guys r not different from those who r evil. Sorry, but if we're gonna be mad... Ur gonna be mad at pretty much everyone who uses google, Microsoft, amazon, Any META apps such as Facebook, and etc. LMAO A lot of u guys r rlly just performative, and evil. Literally, Wokeness but have no empathy or understanding. It's kinda funny, cuz my dad is the og og Palestine supporter(has joined an organization that literally supports Palestine from the 19s or early 20s, is aware of who r the celebrities that r Zionists, and etc) but he's never like u guys. He never deemed anyone worthless. And that's rlly telling lol like imagine that man is the most wokest activist out there BEFORE a lot of u guys r even born or aware of what's happening in Palestine, but here u guys deciding who's worthless and whatnot. That's literally like a movie LMFAO just mfs who believe they r the "good guys" but is actively doing every evil but in the online space, versus ppl who r genuinely the good guys but has empathy and understanding that not everyone is gonna be an activist or is able to. Like do u guys not even think.. that south Korea(or any other country tbh) is one of the most ignorant countries out there? Mind u, these idols started as KIDSSS. But I understand where u guys r coming from either, I also hate hatred for ppl like that cuz they have the mindset that it's rlly not their business and move on their life. But what were not gonna do I'd act as if ur a good person for deeming anyone worthless, when yk damn well someone out there somehow got saved by these idols. And ik u guys r heartless enough to not understand this, and I'm glad. Cuz it means ur privilege enough to not be in that situation.
Prioritise humanity over fucking worshipping useless idols, I agree 100% with your reply. Misanthropical
Nobody is worshipping idols, if anything, those r just saesangs or extremely obsessed fans who do so and it's rlly funny how u mentioned "humanity over useless idols", as if those idols aren't human themselves u guys r the ones who give us woke ppl the WORSTTTT image ever. Literally no empathy, and I'm kinda glad this girl(mind u, she's woke asf. Men literally HATE her) on TikTok has finally said something about this exact problem just recently lol do u guys get off doing this or something? Also, it's funny how u couldn't even reply to my comment. Just shows that a lot of u guys rlly have no thoughts of ur own, and u only mindlessly repeat whatever other ppl have said. This is a huge problem, stop it. Ur not gods, ur not good, ur just an activist(online) who have no empathy or understanding. Also... Why r u guys even here reading manhwas/mangas/manhuas?? U guys know a lot of south Koreans r ignorant as hell that most likely they r (knowingly or not) supporting isnotreal?? But nooo, ofc it doesn't matter cuz this is an illegal site right? LMFAO a lot of u guys also has ties on isnotreal cuz they r literally INVASIVE. R u guys also gonna deem ALL other human being who aren't shouting their lungs in the internet about this, "worthless" now? U guys r literally mini villains on those movies who truly believe they r the right and plays god lmao that's interesting. Just rlly black and white to u guys huh
Just gonna block u guys, cuz u guys r vileee, literally believing ur some sort of god but in reality, u guys r as bad as the others. If u guys want to actually have a conversation about this, I'm open for it, but if ur just gonna call ppl "they r worthless!" then gtfoh. We're talking about REAL LIFE ppl here. Not some 2d "characters". U don't know them personally, and u cant force them either cuz unfortunately, isnotreal has connections to almost everything. Hell, even the US rn is supporting isnotreal, but for sure u guys r not out there telling them "worthless" for not leaving there right?(And don't give me the excuse that it's not their choice, when a lot of them can definitely leave there? This is the same argument u have against kpop idols. U see how heartless it sounds? Cuz u guys don't THINK that everyone has different priorities and some r even forced.) R u also gonna call anyone who still consumes medications that has connections to isnotreal "worthless"? I don't think u guys realize how problematic this actually is, like r we fr turning out this way...??
Don't quote me on this, but from what I've read and heard, apparently one of the enhypen members, Niki(?), called out Mina for being weird. And then the a sht ton of deranged engenes(enhypen's fandom) harassed Mina. Mina went live, and she was basically crying as the engenes in her comment was STILL harassing her. She then drank some pills(which apparently didn't work? Not sure), and so she hanged herself.
(suicide mentioned!!!)Don't quote me on this, but from what I've read and heard, apparently one of the enhypen members, Niki(?), called out Mina for being weird. And then the a sht ton of deranged engenes(enhyp... YoBologna
What the fuck, I just searched abt it on TT and I've seen some ppl genuinely edit her death. People are genuinely disgusting. I don't get why the need to hate to the point of death threats and even beyond the grave.
What the fuck, I just searched abt it on TT and I've seen some ppl genuinely edit her death. People are genuinely disgusting. I don't get why the need to hate to the point of death threats and even beyond the g... Hikyooeon
That's rlly disgusting, I didn't even know they did that.
Sociopathic society where fictional characters get treated like human beings while human beings get treated like fictional characters. People today are more comfortable saying the nastiest shit meant to push people to suicide, but will turn around and cry a river for a pixel on the screen.
Engenes call her "parasocials" then proceeds to send death threats in the name of their "babies"—a grown ass men. I remember that one apology post from one of the accounts who sent her death threats, irrc they used the reason that Mina was already unstable and they didn't mean to send something like that. Like boy, someone just died possibly because of you and other people and you're apologizing like THAT? Rest in peace Mina :((
RIGHT?? It's crazy how a lot of those ppl who hated on Mina half heatedly apologized, but was still putting the blame on Mina.. wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them were happy :/ Idk how they don't feel guilt. If that was me? Oh I'd literally apologized so bad and delete my account.
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TW: we don't turn death people into saints
i don't believe in making a death person look like the saint of the saint just because they died If you did wrong, it should be brought up just as much as your good actions. Cause there's NO such thing as a perfect human being.
that been said, she was a ssg, aka a stalker fan and the main issue arises after 3 things:
1) some fans hated her before because she had money... then it was revealed she's a ssg, which made the hate grow because she did have attitudes that could put NIKKI in danger
2) there were videos of her yelling, treating other members badly, pushing/stomping on other fans during meetings at the vip section, all just to get NIKKI to notice her
3) there's testimonies and video where is ALLEGEDLY shown, how she would make NIKKI feel uncomfortable. For example, there's a video of a meeting organised for fans that bought VIP tickets for their concert. There, Nikki already looked at her, shook her hand, so he proceeds to go talk with other fans. The girl in question begins to whimper, scream, squirm erratically and call his name desperately. Nikki turned his head, looked at her with a mixture of confusion and disgust, then waved at her and turned back to keep greeting other fans.
now. Did she deserve to die? No, y'all could've just reported her accounts or sent trucks to hybe just like you did when they had female dancers for one comeback. Was she a good person? No. Was she a bad person? No. Did she made fans and the members uncomfortable? Yes. Did she treat other members badly? also yes. Besides the stomping and pushing, did she ever cause real damage or injured someone out of jealousy/bosses? No. Was she the ONLY ssg? No. Did she actually die? We don't know, cause real info is getting mixed up with IA, and some users on twt are making gore videos of her with ia just to spit on her even more... which is weird...
i got all of this info after doing a deep dive on her situation. Just to be clear, she was a fansite that traveled, moved to, went to and participated in everything the group announced or even just casual plans... and sweetie that's a ssg. like it or not, she was a ssg, and that doesn't make her someone who "earned" to die nor be hated. her being a ssg doesn't mean you can't defend her or feel sorry for how she spent a good amount of her last days surrounded by hate comments and death threats.
I understand ur point, but this is very dismissive. Idk if ur intent is to inform, OR give those deranged fans an excuse to cling on that justifies on why they harassed her. Sorry, but I don't think ppl who felt sorry for Mina ever claimed she was a cutie patootie. She's definitely some sort of saesang if one of the member from enhypen got weirded out by her. Idk, maybe u should've posted this whole text to someone who whole heartfelt believes Mina is innocent. My point is, she off herself cuz of deranged fans(that is no different from her..) who harassed and send her death threats over something like that. They could've chose a different approach. Just like u said, report her account, AND report her to hybe. Also, I'm not justifying saesangs in any way. They r one of the scums of the world, and I hate how companies don't bother blocking these ppl cuz they need them for profit Then again, anyone who thinks Mina is somehow a saint clearly didn't rlly know a lot of information, or is a normie who doesn't know how the kpop world works. And that is not what the point of my post is. Though I do agree on u with not honoring ppl who died as if they r saints, but that's an entirely different topic. I'm just pointing out how she got harassed so bad to the point of offing herself.
Nobody is making her saint, just as you said it's completely normal reaction to feel bad about her situation. You casually making a list on why people hated her seems very insensitive knowing that someone just died..? Like.. What's the point..? Mind you, two people have died because of this fandom and yall can stomach to casually say this.
Also kpop stans are fuckinf weirdos, if I'm correct the whole "chuu" Trend idk the girl kpop, where they made it a trend to doxx people. Most of the victims were minors and or ppl who slightly disagreed or just disliked kpop. They weren't even assholes that they doxxed. I wish people put effort on hating to actual weirdos like mfs that makes rape jokes or wtv "dark joke"
Wait whaaatt?? Can u give me more context on this "chuu" trend?
You should see how they're still making her and using her as content too. I couldn't believe they would stoop that low. Also Idk if they're actually fans or troll accounts.
With the world full of trolls and ragebaiters, wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those ppl doing that r just trolls. And I didn't know that wtf..
K-Pop fans always blame everyone but themselves when shit like this happens, they're all mentally ill. That poor girl took her own life partly because of these sickos and these bitches only care about how this could possibly affect that failure of a talentless group and it's worthless members. Disgusting. Rest in peace, Mina.
Okay, let's be real now. Enhypen is clearly not talentless or a failure when they can literally sing AND dance at the same time.. they stay booked and busy cuz they definitely have big demand.. so they r definitely successful. Like I understand ur point at the beginning, but let's not call these idols "worthless", as if they r not human too. We can be woke, but have some empathy.
they are worthless tho. not standing up for a single important thing even once in their lives. and not just this group but every single kpop group has ties with zionists, misogynists, rape apologists, racists, e t c. so yeah, them dancing and singing isn't fucking worth anything if they're continuing to stay silent regarding anything that is actually important or worthwhile gimme a break fuck. i'll save my empathy for people who don't have a choice to escape the open air prison they are forced into. for those choosing to stay silent they can go fuck themselves.
Prioritise humanity over fucking worshipping useless idols, I agree 100% with your reply.
U do realize we ALL have some sort of ties with fucking Isnotreal?? Pretty much every brand, apps, sites, and etc, r somehow supporting Isnotreal. I understand being so fucking woke, that ur angry not everyone is gonna shout at the top of the buildings of what is right. Cuz ur right, everyone, especially those who have a platform should do the same. But I also don't blame them hello?? Especially fucking kpop artists LMFAOOO the issue with a lot of u guys who r woke without no empathy, and treat other humans who aren't activists/100% perfect, is that u guys r not different from those who r evil. Sorry, but if we're gonna be mad... Ur gonna be mad at pretty much everyone who uses google, Microsoft, amazon, Any META apps such as Facebook, and etc. LMAO A lot of u guys r rlly just performative, and evil. Literally, Wokeness but have no empathy or understanding. It's kinda funny, cuz my dad is the og og Palestine supporter(has joined an organization that literally supports Palestine from the 19s or early 20s, is aware of who r the celebrities that r Zionists, and etc) but he's never like u guys. He never deemed anyone worthless. And that's rlly telling lol like imagine that man is the most wokest activist out there BEFORE a lot of u guys r even born or aware of what's happening in Palestine, but here u guys deciding who's worthless and whatnot. That's literally like a movie LMFAO just mfs who believe they r the "good guys" but is actively doing every evil but in the online space, versus ppl who r genuinely the good guys but has empathy and understanding that not everyone is gonna be an activist or is able to. Like do u guys not even think.. that south Korea(or any other country tbh) is one of the most ignorant countries out there? Mind u, these idols started as KIDSSS. But I understand where u guys r coming from either, I also hate hatred for ppl like that cuz they have the mindset that it's rlly not their business and move on their life. But what were not gonna do I'd act as if ur a good person for deeming anyone worthless, when yk damn well someone out there somehow got saved by these idols. And ik u guys r heartless enough to not understand this, and I'm glad. Cuz it means ur privilege enough to not be in that situation.
Nobody is worshipping idols, if anything, those r just saesangs or extremely obsessed fans who do so and it's rlly funny how u mentioned "humanity over useless idols", as if those idols aren't human themselves u guys r the ones who give us woke ppl the WORSTTTT image ever. Literally no empathy, and I'm kinda glad this girl(mind u, she's woke asf. Men literally HATE her) on TikTok has finally said something about this exact problem just recently lol do u guys get off doing this or something? Also, it's funny how u couldn't even reply to my comment. Just shows that a lot of u guys rlly have no thoughts of ur own, and u only mindlessly repeat whatever other ppl have said. This is a huge problem, stop it. Ur not gods, ur not good, ur just an activist(online) who have no empathy or understanding. Also... Why r u guys even here reading manhwas/mangas/manhuas?? U guys know a lot of south Koreans r ignorant as hell that most likely they r (knowingly or not) supporting isnotreal?? But nooo, ofc it doesn't matter cuz this is an illegal site right? LMFAO a lot of u guys also has ties on isnotreal cuz they r literally INVASIVE. R u guys also gonna deem ALL other human being who aren't shouting their lungs in the internet about this, "worthless" now? U guys r literally mini villains on those movies who truly believe they r the right and plays god lmao that's interesting. Just rlly black and white to u guys huh
Just gonna block u guys, cuz u guys r vileee, literally believing ur some sort of god but in reality, u guys r as bad as the others. If u guys want to actually have a conversation about this, I'm open for it, but if ur just gonna call ppl "they r worthless!" then gtfoh. We're talking about REAL LIFE ppl here. Not some 2d "characters". U don't know them personally, and u cant force them either cuz unfortunately, isnotreal has connections to almost everything. Hell, even the US rn is supporting isnotreal, but for sure u guys r not out there telling them "worthless" for not leaving there right?(And don't give me the excuse that it's not their choice, when a lot of them can definitely leave there? This is the same argument u have against kpop idols. U see how heartless it sounds? Cuz u guys don't THINK that everyone has different priorities and some r even forced.) R u also gonna call anyone who still consumes medications that has connections to isnotreal "worthless"? I don't think u guys realize how problematic this actually is, like r we fr turning out this way...??
And I just noticed one of u guys have a kpop idols on ur pfp LMAO and the account sure as hell looks like an alt.
Wait what's the whole thing abt this?? I'm not in kpop fanbase anymore
(suicide mentioned!!!)
Don't quote me on this, but from what I've read and heard, apparently one of the enhypen members, Niki(?), called out Mina for being weird. And then the a sht ton of deranged engenes(enhypen's fandom) harassed Mina. Mina went live, and she was basically crying as the engenes in her comment was STILL harassing her. She then drank some pills(which apparently didn't work? Not sure), and so she hanged herself.
What the fuck, I just searched abt it on TT and I've seen some ppl genuinely edit her death. People are genuinely disgusting. I don't get why the need to hate to the point of death threats and even beyond the grave.
That's rlly disgusting, I didn't even know they did that.
Sociopathic society where fictional characters get treated like human beings while human beings get treated like fictional characters. People today are more comfortable saying the nastiest shit meant to push people to suicide, but will turn around and cry a river for a pixel on the screen.
Realest shtttttttt. So unfortunate that stuff like this happens.
Engenes call her "parasocials" then proceeds to send death threats in the name of their "babies"—a grown ass men. I remember that one apology post from one of the accounts who sent her death threats, irrc they used the reason that Mina was already unstable and they didn't mean to send something like that. Like boy, someone just died possibly because of you and other people and you're apologizing like THAT? Rest in peace Mina :((
RIGHT?? It's crazy how a lot of those ppl who hated on Mina half heatedly apologized, but was still putting the blame on Mina.. wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them were happy :/ Idk how they don't feel guilt. If that was me? Oh I'd literally apologized so bad and delete my account.