Well that's not the author's or anyone's else problem. Women can be or dress however they like, be it goth, girlie, sexy, conservative. Real women and drawn women can express themselves freely. Not based to the reactions of others. Also I have a huge cup. I draw women with big cup. Simple as that. I don't give a f about the male gaze. Also I am athletic and muscly but I do know that many Asian girls are tiny and thinner than western girls. It is ok. So Korean authors since they draw western girls are also influenced by that and create a mix of the body types they know with the body types they think old EU would have. Also some maybe be inexperienced and slowly correct their proportions. But hell no I would censor my art because of "the male gaaaaze". Also, not a documentary. No reason for realism
Bruh, just because it’s fiction doesn’t mean it exists outside ideological influence and can’t be criticized. When I say “male gaze” it’s not about any artist’s stylistic choice (or you for that matter, so idk why you felt like you had to explain yourself), but a narrative pattern I noticed after reading hundreds of webtoons and having studied East Asian media. Also, these women don’t just have big boobs and a muscular body. They are at times drawn with stick arms and legs, a 2- inch waist and have an F cup, and looking at the comments, I’m not the only person who noticed this, but I digress.
Artists can and SHOULD draw whatever they like, but there is a pattern in how female characters are portrayed and characterized, and maybe you should ask yourself what causes this. I would assume it has less to do with “mixing European body types” and more with East Asia’s extremely toxic beauty standards and gender norms that oppress women in real life, which makes me question if there is truly a “freedom of expression” present, or rather expression in a culture that has normalized and internalized misogyny. Also, while the artists might care little about the male gaze, the Korean publishing industry (owned mostly by profit-oriented men) certainly does, and it sets the standard for what gets published. I say this as an Asian artist with a big cup size myself, lol.
Let me tell you something about how I was drowning my girl heroes when I was much younger. I had no contact with asian comics, just the US ones. Marvel comics mostly. I was not influenced by current trends on bodytypes but mostly from super heroes. So my drawings and my ideal type was tall, muscly with abs, big boobs relatively and thin waists. So in non Asian world those trends keep changing. We had the super model era (eg Cyndia Crawford), the Pamela Anderson huge boobs era, the Kardashian big butt era, now we have the ozempic era. Oh those are toxic beauty standards also. I know, I was with 2 hormonal issues from the age of 11 and struggling to achieve "normalcy" . So that is why that super hero body stay with me till today many years later. They are the same at Asian countries. Thin ethereal bodies (and to be fair their trends are not so radical as the western ones). The big boobs I believe is western influence, and boy have I laughed in hentais where the woman is thin and each breast is like a basketball. Yes relatively misogyny is still more impactful there but let's get real. EU and US started the red pill convo, not the Asian men. We have similar issues, just of different flavor. Also it is a bit hypocritical ( to be fair ) "omg on Stellar Blade video game those asian devs have her being dressed with almost nothing looking unrealistically beautiful" and when Resident Evil 9 Leon was appeared we girls and gays were thirsting and celebrating and put mods where we could see his abs. As in my US comics. Men were phenomenal, tall, unbelievable bodies. I love my tall handsome manhwua men that have unrealistic faces, backs, height, abs. I love my amazingly beautiful out of this world manhwua girls. It's ok. Beauty (and intent) is in the eye of the beholder
*their trends on body type (asian) are not radical changing is what I meant
Omg all this yapping, no one cares about your experience. OP said she is tired of having the same type of body in every comic which is so sterotypically pretty and feeds on this unachibable goal of beauty women pursue.
We want more body types, different, varied, we dont want the same shit over and over again. And we definetly dont want more bodys that could never exist in real life unless they went through a hundred surgerires.
Clock it
Thank you.
girl, the op said they're tired of seeing female leads with balloon-sized boobs and pencil-thin waists, not "please tell me your entire life story." it's actually impressive how you managed to write all that and still not engage with the point being made. not everything is an invitation to make yourself the center of the conversation, merenda.
Wdym by EU and US men started red pill and not Asian men? Asian men are prolly some of the biggest groups of incel and traditional men. Just bc the west coined the term in English doesn’t mean that Asians don’t have a term that predates it in their respective language
Omg y‘all I cannot. After that monologue I just let it be because clearly there’s no getting through to her, but thank you for speaking my mind lmao.
Also thisss!! Yes, EU/US have a wide-spread red pill movement, but saying its not the same in Asia, the Origin of Neoconfucianism, is ridiculous. Particularly Korea has the worst case of Andrew Tate masculinity as of today. Like, almost 50% of men there truly believe women’s equal rights hurt men.
Scrolling through this was a wild ride. I hope they eventually come to realise that patriarchy is global and insidiously baked into every facet of our lives, including our media.
When i got to that part I checked out lol that person had no idea what they were talking about. South Korea, INDIA, Japan are ground zero for the types of misogynistic incel filth that would make Andrew Tate seem like a feminist.
She’s the Y/N final boss. Her boobs got bigger and her waist smaller with each chapter. While I don’t mind big chested girlies, I do notice that Korean artists (even women artists) tend to draw women for the male gaze, and it’s really sad. Either they’re pencil thin or they are pencil thin but with big boobs, which makes them look really disproportionate to the rest of their body. There’s like no in between and it’s slowly but surely getting on my nerves.