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I cannot believe you guys are siding with elephant that man has hid literally everything from garam and is pissed abt garam doing the exact same thing and getting Agro (literally kicking things) because of the rings is a red flag no matter what, we are aware of garams trauma and his ex recently threatened to out them he could’ve tried to have a conversation with him knowing this?
Always the same people who dick ride the ml in every manhwa lol. Not surprised
*dick ride most ml in manhwa's
The way he reacted is not a good look at all, def kick to the curb worthy imo. Tho by the comments, ppl would rather bounce on the ml. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Frrrr like let's normalize hating/disliking the shitty mls even if the story is getting good. Yes I know most have character development or chasing pase but at the end of the day, are they good person? Not just towards mc but everyone around them.
One example is jjk from jinx. Do I enjoy the story? Yes. Is he good looking? Yes of course. But his character and overall is average at best. He's still asshole even after the "awakening" or that wimpy little "chasing". But for some certain reasons he's so glazed up. Like is some sort of god or something. Which is lowering my likeness towards him.
If you read a lot of stories, you can absolutely find someone 1000000x better than him but most that literally worshipping him only read jinx and call themselves fudoFudanshi
Fujoshi/Fudanshi*
Jaehyuk kicking the trash can was weird as hell but the crash out was valid???? Even if he’s been weird in the past, it doesn’t minimize what grams doing rn. Yes, he has trauma but he has to realize that from jaehyuks pov it looks like he is ashamed of their relationship. And garam doesn’t even know that his ex threatened to out them
No kicking trashcan or throwing the ring can never be valid not to mention Garam was literally reaching out for the trashcan. Being hurt and disappointed is valid but the actions you take out of anger very much reflects on your personality. Was Garam in the wrong? yes but was jae also in the wrong? yes too. It's so annoying people picking sides based on who's in the obvious rather than comprehending what lead to the fight. Jae also hid the things from Garam and he minimized those things saying "Oh I did it for you, what's the matter". That's not how it works. As a couple you need to be transparent w each other the same transparency y'all are expecting Garam to show.
For Garam, the hesitancy came from never having his bday celebrated, a shitty ex, his parents confrontation and a habit to minimize himself. For Jae, the anger came from being hurt that his bf didn't tell him abt his special day and the rejection of the proposal.
So many people saying the crashout is valid seems so funny and unreal to me. So if you caused your partner to be hurt, y'all would be okay with them kicking trashcans and throwing things because y'all were at majority fault ?
Im not gonna respond to the other stuff because its too much to but his ex threatened to put them at the bar and that’s what I was referring to, the guy who literally caused his traumas came back and threatened him with something related and anyone who’s dealt with situations like that knows how triggering an event like this would be to one’s mind
When did i say that kicking the trash can was valid? I said that the crash out was valid, which it was. And im literally not taking sides, the op was mostly against jaehyuks so i responded to that but i agree that theyre both in the wrong. Garam for his reaction to the rings and Jaehyuks for being agressive. No where was it said that him kicking the trash can was valid, i literally said that it wasnt. The crashout im referring to is him getting angry at garams reaction towards the rings, which he put thought and care into.
Yes, I agree that his ex traumatized him, but he’s a grown adult who should communicate with Jaehyuk. They’re literally both in the wrong, they don’t communicate. Jaehyuk shouldn’t have been aggressive and instead communicated and the same goes for garam.
any jealous seme, oblivious uke(like when they get flirted with without realizing, and jealous seme that shows the jealousy through sex
Do you guys have any recommendations where it has a scene where the uke is giving a blowjob and the seme pushes their head farther (like that one scene in cherry blossoms after winter)or where the uke comes but the seme gets horny again and continues through the ukes orgasm (sorry for specifics )
Reading these comments I can tell that so many of you don’t have experience with growing up lgbt in an unsupportive environment, I want to reply and explain the experience to some people but it doesn’t really matter when you’ll never understand how hard it is to live with that fear your whole life and try to continue living normally after a traumatic experience . The ML is kinda like this too, up until recently he was proudly straight AND homophobic, he doesn’t understand it at all and is seeing it as an insult when it’s so different than that, I wish the author would write a proper seen with garam explaining but this is just some random bl story and so I know it won’t happen
finally someone who understands!
Agreed
Perfectly said
Yeah I get it… as someone who is queer myself. However at a certain point we have to understand, that it's your partner's life, and what they choose to do with it, is their choice. I would understand Garam more if he didn't want to come out to his friends or in general, but that isn't the case, his case is, he doesn't want Jaehyuk to come out— which is totally different. I think Jaehyuk would understand if Garam said, "I don't, but you can." But Garam is saying, "I can. YOU can't." If Garam would've went with the first choice Jaehyuk would still come out, but would've made efforts with Garam to keep Garam anonymous to social media and just come out with family and friends. This is because many hetero relationships do so anyway, and it's normal and fine (Like not being comfie meeting friends or family until later in the relationship–regardless of knowing said people.) At the end of the day, Jaehyuk is an adult, regardless of his social standing in the past, it is his choice what he does in the present— as a partner Garam's job is to make sure Jaehyuk is 100% sure to go through with coming out and then stand by Jaehyuk's choice to the end not running away at the most important time when the damage had already been done.
No. garam literally doesn't want to come out. it's not "i can, you can't" situation. also there's no such thing as anonymity when you are a rich, popular guy, the popularity Garam didn't invite, didn't know but has to bear the burden of. Jh doesn't want just him to come out, he wants Garam to come out as well. That's why the attempt in front of his friends and the ultimatum.
Jaehyuk does want to come out together but to his own friends and family. Garam isn't friends with his friends. He never mentioned he wanted to out his relationship to public but wanted to just come out in general. Also weren't those two guys Jaehyuk's friends and not Garam's? I coulda sworn? And yes there is anonymity Jaehyuk has had relationships with lots women and hardly anyone knows who they are. Also nowhere in here did Garam ever mention he didn't want to come out it's always been Jaehyuk Jaehyuk Jaehyuk. Garam didn't even want to introduce him to his gay friends. That's why I'm like bro what. Even if that was the case it still doesn't nigate my previous points as to Jaehyuk is an adult. If Garam doesn't want to come out fine but Jaehyuk has the right to come out if he wants to which Garam isn't allowing him to do. Maybe I didn't read it right tho so who knows. (Also I feel like my tone is a bit condesending here, I just want to thank you for opening a conversation with me, and discussing this, it's fun—To over analyse a manhwa loll that was probably meant to be a pornhwa with plot lol.)
I see your point but Jh literally was like "yeah garam and I live together and my partner is Garam" that was when Garam stopped him. He did not go "I'm gay" and if he had, it woulda been found out through inference. Jh said he lived with his girlfriend and now he comes out as gay and the guys also found out Garam lives with him.
about the anonymity thing, Jh is literally a celebrity now, albeit a bit grounded but still a celebrity. That's why the ex threatened to out him and I believe you once one person who's not queer finds out, there's a high chance of the news spreading like wildfire. Been there, experienced that. Preciously, he was still known as a f-boy but now, he is famous with good fan following.
During there argument after Jh tried to out both of them, Garam explicitly says he doesn't want to come out.
Jh can come out all he wants but his ultimatum clearly states that he wants to drag Garam in there.
Love discussing manhwa plots. I keep seeing Jinx fans over analyzing the panels or some details and I was like even the artist prolly didn't mean that and didn't do it deliberately, why do you do this. But now I kinda do get it. Although I still think they take it to the extreme, I kinda love these discussion though.
No fs, that’s why both of them are annoying me. I just get annoyed when Garam is going, "this is for your sake, blah blah blah." Like, I get it if you don't want to be outed yourself, but don't leave someone who likes you and is willing to do things like this for you for "their" sake. Be real with yourself and realize that he's an adult. And then Jaehyuk! Guhh he frustrated me. Tbh, I am more of a Jaehyuk person, if they ask I ain't gonna deny, but when he was just gonna out their relationship to those men in public, my heart dropped. Never without my partner consultation!
Back to Garam tho. If some girl I was talking to pulled the same shit with me, I would be just as pissed as Jaehyuk, but I also understand Garam because, well, I went through what some would deem as the worst case scenario—I was outed to my baby boomer Catholic Latino parents. If they weren't obsessed with saving face, I would be booted from the house. That's why I can understand Garam, but on the flip side, Jaehyuk is an adult and so is Garam; this coulda been handled by talking with Jaehyuk: "hey, you wanna come out to friends and family, fine, but I don't want to be outed at all without you consulting me first." And if that didn't work, Garam, leave him.
But yeah, I love discussing these plots, as long as the person understands what's going on . I don't know why, but some people get heated hard for these things and forget, "Hey, um, they aren't real people, loll." Discussions are fine, and it's okay to get passionate, I feel, as long as you catch yourself and apologize for your tone after.