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more like finger her

oh i’m in tears

bro

literally the first thing I thought

Time out

Have you considered writing all this under her social media account or your satisfaction comes from doing this in pirated site? Harmful material??

This is a social media site, that's why we're able comment and socialize with fellow readers. And yes I would consider this harmful material, since you we're asking?

This wasn't my point. I'm saying if you're so concerned about the author creating "harmful material", why not address it on her actual social media instead of a pirated site where the author probably won't even see your arguments? Also for someone who said they're not judging, that was a lot of judgement disguised as concern. Just because you believe something doesn't automatically make your assumptions facts or your opinions the absolute truth
Peace !!

I'm not judging the people who read this comic, I didn't think I had to explicitly say that, but I will since the point was missed. But I am judging the writer because the writer is a weirdo. The comment is for my fellow readers in this comment section. It's in reaction to the discourse in this comment section. I live in reality so I do see the harm these types of comics have, and please take your own advice and do your own research. You couldn't rebuttal what I said so now what an adult writing stories about children being sexualized isn't harmful please keep your delusions to yourself. This comment is not about you, whatever experience you have with the world does not eclipse reality.

This just feels like hateful judgement hidden under fake concern .

You keep telling me to do my research, but did you do yours on the author before deciding she's a weirdo? I've looked into her interviews. You can criticise her work but that doesn't mean you automatically know what kind of person she is just because she wrote it. Calling her a weirdo and her work harmful doesn't make your assumptions facts.

And you say you're not judging readers but talking about people being "too far gone" and needing to be shown that this isn't normal behaviour does come across as judgmental. You might not be directly calling readers perverts but you're basically making it sound like people who don't see it your way need to be educated.

I never said your comment had to be about me, I replied because I had a problem with your argument, you say my experience doesn't eclipse reality but neither does yours. You can find the manga problematic without your interpretation being the only valid one or everyone who disagrees with you being delusional. I disagree with your take on the manga not with the idea that sexualising children can be harmful, those are two different things. You're arguing against a point I never made and disagreeing with you doesn't mean I couldn't rebut your argument.

The writer makes content that sexualizes children, I don't need to be told explicitly that they're a weirdo, them being paid for content that sexualizes children is proof that their a weirdo, but if you don't think so that's a difference of opinion, I genuinely don't care.

"I disagree with your take on the manga not with the idea that sexualising children can be harmful"

My take is that the manga sexualizes children by adultifying them and putting them in positions that children their age(elementary age)would not normally be in, making it harmful. These are not two separate things, if you have have a different interpretation of what's happening in this manga then either you are delusional or we are not reading the same manga.

As far as too far gone, I was speaking explicitly about the minority of adults that are exactly that too far gone and don't just see this as a book that they can pick up and put down. You genuinely misunderstood something and ran with it, but also a hit dog will holler because you seem to have taken that personally. If you get it you get it if you don't you don't and just move on.

First of all that "hit dog will holler" comment is a cheap shot. I disagreed with you, so you decided I must have taken it personally? Get over yourself.

I get your argument, I've seen the panels. I'm not denying the age gap or romantic framing. I'm disagreeing with your interpretation and the conclusions you're drawing from it, you can think you're right without declaring everyone who disagrees is delusional. That's not an argument, it's you acting like your interpretation is the only one that makes sense.

Being paid to write a story you find disturbing doesn't automatically prove what kind of person an author is. You're entitled to think she's a weirdo, but that's your judgment not an fact. I've looked into her interviews because I'd rather form my own opinion than blindly accept yours. That doesn't mean I think everything she writes is beyond criticism.

And as for "too far gone" you clarified, fine but that doesn't change the fact that your original wording could be taken differently. Don't act like I pulled that out of thin air.

Finally "if you get it, you get it, if you don't, move on". Take your own advice. You're the one who kept replying and taking personal jabs. You say "not judging you" yet the moment someone disagrees with you, you start insulting them and acting intellectually superior. Criticise the manga all you want but stop acting like yours is the only valid interpretation and everyone who disagrees with you is incapable of understanding what they're reading.

Blah blah blah. Is you coo? Oh now you agree with me, but your upset bc I'm acting like my opinion is the only one is right? So? Get lost already. Your acting like someone has never had an opinion. What is it you felt unheard so you decided you wanted to talk my ear off? Go away. I've already told you I'm not judging you but you seem to not understand that, it's like you want someone to care about your opinion. Opps, I don't. You don't even hear the hypocrisy in your own words. I'm supposedly acting like I'm the only one right while also pushing your opinion. The basis of what I was saying was why people are pushing back against this manga and stop trying to defending it and you decided to be a white knight for something you have now admitted to being problematic.

Let my opinion roll off like water off a ducks back and read your problematic manga in peace I don't care about you, is that what you wanted to hear? You seemed to have thought I had fake concern but the truth is my concern wasn't meant for you anyway so be at peace like you already said, peace but in the middle east.

PS I'm taking jabs at you because you clearly misunderstood what I was trying to say and come back with a renewed argument because you're upset and just want to be right. If you believe your right then be right in your mind, my love

Girl!!! WHERE THE FUCK DID I AGREE WITH YOU? Saying her work can be criticised doesn't mean I agree with YOUR criticism. I meant that people can criticise her work without acting like it automatically defines her character. You're so far up your own ass about being right that you can't even distinguish between those two things. Instead of considering that you might've misunderstood what I said, you keep arguing against shit I never claimed. At this point, are you even responding to my actual words or just to whatever you've decided I meant?

And I never said your comment was about me personally. I said the way you spoke about opl who read and enjoy it was judgmental. Talking about people being "too far gone" and needing to be taught that something isn't normal, then acting like nobody could possibly interpret that as judgmental because YOU claim you meant well? Be fucking serious. Your intentions don't magically change how your words come across, and you don't get to dictate how everyone else is allowed to interpret them.

And this whole thing about me wanting your attention or wanting to feel heard? GIRL, GET OVER YOURSELF. I disagreed with a PUBLIC comment. Not everything is that deep. The fact that you keep inventing motives for my replies instead of addressing what I'm actually saying is embarrassing, especially when you're so busy accusing ME of wanting to be right. Apparently questioning my interpretation is fair game but questioning yours is completely off the table. Taking jabs at me doesn't make you superior or right. It just makes you look childish. The irony is fucking hilarious.

And I'm at peace, actually. Maybe you should try finding yours in the Middle East, since you clearly can't find it in a comment section. Anyway, go celebrate your imaginary win, my darling. I'm done.

"You keep telling me to do my research, but did you do yours on the author before deciding she's a weirdo? I've looked into her interviews. You can criticise her work but that doesn't mean you automatically know what kind of person she is just because she wrote it. Calling her a weirdo and her work harmful doesn't make your assumptions facts."

"The writer makes content that sexualizes children, I don't need to be told explicitly that they're a weirdo, them being paid for content that sexualizes children is proof that their a weirdo, but if you don't think so that's a difference of opinion, I genuinely don't care."

Girl is big mad and trying redirect what they're doing to others. I only responded to what you said and it's seeming like you can only digest one thing at time. If you need I can give you the spark notes, just ask.

Also

"I'm not denying the age gap or romantic framing. I'm disagreeing with your interpretation and the conclusions you're drawing from it"

The spotlight is on you now. Give your interpretation of chapters like 95 or 88.8. Quickly, and while you do I can look up some hot lines for your illness. News flash children don't behave the way they are being portrayed in the manga(adultification and romanticizing, like the two are in a teen rom-com- the "love interest" is an elementary age child) so what interpretation are you defending with your life, white knight? Sorry, what interpretation don't you agree with?

Once again if you get it you get it, if you don't you don't. The people who have experienced troubled persons know what I'm talking about but you took your misunderstood interpretation and self-victimized.

"And you say you're not judging readers but talking about people being "too far gone" and needing to be shown that this isn't normal behaviour does come across as judgmental"

Who are talking about if not yourself? I am responding to you but you can't decide what you're upset about. Yes I am being childish, that's not a dig. You really thought I would be nice to someone being passive aggressive.

Say whatever you please as long as it makes sense, and for someone at peace you seem stuck on the part about me being judgemental. Did you feel judged?

Don't bother with @Batata. That person is a huge pedo who argues with users who write anti-pedo culture comments under other pedophelic mangas.

You will always find them defending pedo content

Yeah, it felt like they weren't talking to me specifically, they must've had this conversation more than once.

They are infamous in this site for being pro pedo content.
They argue with anyone criticizing grooming and pedophelia

They really thought their gotcha was " finding a fight in the middle" . They enjoy fantasizing about death and abuse.

It reminds me of right wingers telling to pro-Palestine lgbq+people that we will get thrown off the roof for being anti-genocide and apartheid state, you can tell those right wingers love fantasizing about killing minorities.

@Batata is the same

Wow I'm gonna go ahead leave them be lol

*and leave them be

*middle east

Preferably. I hope no children will be near them , I worry about their safety with wackos like batata and the pedos and their apologists

@Robin, I challenged you for accusing someone of a serious offence and telling them to k*ll themselves simply for reading a manga. I asked you to prove your accusations and pointed out how casually throwing around the label "pedophile" cheapens the seriousness of the actual offence. And somehow that turned into me being a pedophile, pedo apologist, who fantasises about death and abuse. Do you hear yourself?

You're worried about children coming near me but the way you casually throw around serious accusations about people you disagree with is far more concerning. Your imagination is running wild again and trust me, you're not exactly famous on this site for the reasons you seem to think. Your reputation for deranged behaviour speaks for itself.

As for you, I think the biggest issue here is that you're mixing up three different things.... criticising the manga, making assumptions about the author, and judging the people who enjoy it.

First the author. You keep telling me to do my research but have you looked into her interviews and her own explanations of her work? My point was never that an author is above criticism. It's that writing something controversial doesn't automatically establish what kind of person they are or what their intentions are. You can criticise what's depicted in a story but your interpretation of it isn't automatically proof of your conclusions about its creator. Interviews and an author's own explanations aren't definitive proof either but they're still worth considering rather than treating your interpretation of their work as proven fact, those are two different things.

Second the readers. I never said you weren't allowed to criticise the manga nor did I claim you were personally attacking me simply by expressing your opinion. I said that describing some readers as "too far gone" and suggesting they need to be shown that this isn't normal came across as judgmental despite your saying you weren't judging anyone. I understand that you were talking about a minority not every reader but that doesn't mean the assumptions you made about that minority are automatically justified. There's a difference between expressing concern about fictional content and making assumptions about the people who engage with it. You can believe a story is harmful without automatically knowing what its readers believe or how they distinguish fiction from reality.

And the fact that another person came along and labelled me a pedo apologist and defender of pedo culture over a disagreement about a manga is exactly why I take this distinction seriously. People can be quick to turn disagreements over fictional content into serious accusations about someone's character despite knowing absolutely nothing about them.

As for your challenge about the chapters, I do disagree with your interpretation of the manga. I don't consider depicting an age gap and romantic feelings by themselves enough to establish all the conclusions you're drawing from it, that doesn't mean I haven't understood your argument... it means I interpret the material differently. I hadn't addressed your core argument about the manga or discussed those chapters because that would've been a separate discussion from the points I was making about the author and readers. You demanding an interpretation from me later doesn't change what my original arguments were about.

You could've expressed your concerns about the story which you're absolutely entitled to do without the condescension and personal jabs instead you made this personal and then used my objection to your wording as proof that I was playing the victim. Disagreeing with your argument doesn't mean I misunderstood it and objecting to how you expressed it doesn't mean I can't address the argument itself.

You're free to criticise the manga as much as you want, I'm equally free to disagree with your interpretation and defend it but criticising a fictional work, drawing conclusions about its creator and making assumptions about readers based on their engagement with it are not the same things. That was my point from the beginning and you've repeatedly argued against things I wasn't saying.

I've made my position clear and I'm done with this exchange