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How are yall complaining I mean i think it’s quite well written! Not the characters obviously because well yea but the story lowkey. Like those little surprise elements always gets my heart pumping.
And I lowkey miss redhead I hope he come back and whoop the transfer kid ass
You guys are mixing up femdom and sexual assault. The double standards are crazy. There are ton shots of femdom porn out there that are consensual and still as hot. The male lead is groomed, drugged and sexually assaulted.
bro can u say the same thing if he was a girl? If male lead was a girl, a step mom with the husband and the son doing the SAME thing, this shit would be the same as those cheap ahh porns, with people saying it’s red flag.
Don’t even say “but he’s a guy, he can just say no if he don’t want” Coming from his background where he had debt and all, he had no choice but to obey and keep fucking BOTH of the women. This is manipulation and definitely a power dynamic difference here.
This is exactly the representation of male SA but romantized. I know the story revolves around the girl, and her twisted thoughts, and just because she’s a girl, doesn’t make any of those thoughts right. I repeat, just because she’s a girl, doesn’t make any of those thoughts/actions right. Just make her with a guy, and see how fucked up the whole thoughts and actions are.
And if you’re saying “this is just porn bruh chill tf out” I want you to fucking wash ur brain because the type of porn u goon to can affect your mind. Porn with healthy relationship is still better than porn with romantasized SA, unhealthy dynamics. It is WAY WORSE than it already is. It affects how you perceive real world topics like sexual assault on males, which is already so less aware.
Before you assume I’m using the victim card, I’m a female
I fear I read most of them and I can’t find more
What double standards? Do u even know what that word means? Yall learn a word and start spamming it with no brain cells
I don’t want to seem like that person b/c I don’t care for this story; I really only followed along for the guy she goes to college with (he’s hot). I can’t word it properly without seeming like I care strongly, or doubt that this is “SA”, but the guy did this all on purpose??
I’m not sure when the chapter it mentioned where he looked for that high of the daughter was posted, but it’s there. The beginning is very questionable, don’t get me wrong, I hate this story really only because the mom is involved sexually—it’s gross. They were kids, she would bully him, but he basically said he enjoyed it and was disappointed that she never came back to the orphanage. Him cracking her mom was his ticket to get closer to her, “toy” with her; so he says. I would argue it’s a consensual “roleplay”. Ofc the part where he’s drugged up was either mentioned briefly in that chapter or was just left in the air, either way unacceptable.
Again, don’t get me wrong I don’t like this story. I do think it’s a little unfair to the story itself to label it something it’s really not. Let’s not forget that this story, along with being a femdom, is a josei as well.
PREACH
THANK YOU.
Since you seem to be having trouble (yes this is meant to be condescending) "I'll do anything so please don't tell your mother" is NOT giving consent.
Bae look up the meaning of double standards before you come on here tryna act like a smart ass when u don't even have a clue abt what's going on so embarrassing lmao
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I agree with what most of you have said. Ts is hella interesting story with handsome ahh characters. The reason why I said all this is because A LOT of people are just ignoring the red flags. Yea, this is supposed to be kinky shit but you have to admit that there is some kind of unacceptable things that need to be pointed out.
Just because the drugging happened “once” doesn’t make it better. And male lead doing allat just to see female lead is also NOT NORMAL! Just because he’s doing it knowingly doesn’t make it better either. Just says how fucked up his brain is. Bro male lead is MC’s AGE!! And the mother— so much older is knowingly grooming him. Yes, he is adult, but there’s still a big gap in level of maturity too. The mother has her authority, money and sex. That’s when the unfair power dynamic comes to play.
love josei and drama but what im trying to do is spread awareness. This is kinky and hot yes, but just swap out the genders bro. [A 20smt girl dating and live tgt with 40smt unc and that unc’s son also treated her like shit and use her], like?? if it goes like that the audience will treat this story VERY differently. That’s what I mean by DOUBLE STANDARDS.
(Also not all is intended to you I wanted to add more)
Still makes no sense, what exactly are people having double standards about? You are acting as if this is the first story in history where consent is blurry or not given. So once again u don't know what the phrase means and are just spamming it, hope this helps
Ik what double standards means u idiot, the writer is using it wrong. They just say double standards and have no context or explanation, what exactly is the double standard? Maybe you should use your brain and stop being biased for 2 seconds, dick riding some random that doesnt care about you. Both of u need to go back to basic english class and learn how to communicate, Hope this helps
Wow great, you explained what not giving consent is, wow so stupid and off topic. I asked what is the double standard not how is he not giving consent. Maybe learn basic english and comprehension skills before replying to me, just proving my even more
Woah, I am sorry if I used the words “double standards” wrongly because hey, English ain’t my first language man! But when I googled it, it is: a rule or standard of good behaviour that, unfairly, some people are expected to follow or achieve but other people are not. According to Cambridge dictionary!
And well, I think I used it correctly no?
Unfair to some people— as in male and female! The treatment of male and female in SA representation in manhwa!
I won’t repeat again, just go read what I said above about swapping the genders out.
In conclusion, what I meant was that the standard of girls needing pity and careful attention when they are SA, VS when a guy being SA yet the standard is “oh, hot. Femdom” that’s what I’m trying to imply!
If only YOU didn’t get it and a lot of other people got it, maybe it’s time for u to improve ur English! For me, reading ao3 or fanfics works haha.
Also, please do remember to be intellectually honest and kind, and if we’re talking about the manhwa, we’ll talk about the manhwa! We can agree to disagree!
Not fucking saying bullshit and talk shit about people u dumbfuck.
Aren't you something. I want you to reread what I said, and then maybe think hard as to WHY I said it. I'm not going to hold your hand since you claim to have such good reading comprehension skills.
Ragingfujoshi genuinely doesn't understand what double standards means. You used the term correctly.
Me when I don’t read my OWN text
Can u suggest some good ones? I Love femdom but most i find end up rapeyyy
Bitch you can't even spell right, tf R U on about and yes, the writer is using double standards right because people are treating the dub-con as normal consensual sex because of double standards. If it was a man manipulating and using force against a girl, the response would be entirely different. Since the gender roles are swapped, the response is completely neutral and positive, viewing the sexual assault to be an act of strength and dominance when it's just a heinous act committed by a woman who's exploiting a man's vulnerability to engage in sexual activities. Hope this helped you, you idiotic muppet! P.S. Not everybody needs to explain with context you dumb fuck, don't blame the writer for your incapability to process an argument without considering context clues, lmao
You used it right, the other person is just genuinely retarded and has some sort of superiority complex... For no reason brah it's just delusion atp
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You’re good! I understand the frustration, like I mentioned, I not once ever intended to defend the story; by all means keep talking, haha. I just do feel like like the story itself (apart from the mom situation.. I do feel like that’s another topic in itself; you can argue the mom is basically his owner, as he sold himself as a boy toy—I think that’s why the fl was being such an asshole, seeing as in her eyes “he’s hers”) is at the end of they day, his choice.
He’s an adult, and even in the latest chapter where he has his whole monologue does he say he intended all this, so unfortunately these are the consequences he ends up with. I’m not defending a 40yow, but he did what he did solely for the purpose of being around for the daughter. Im sure they’ll be a deeper dive (maybe) of why he decided the boy toy route. Like I said, the drug situation was unacceptable and I really did stop keeping track of that part of the story after that. I won’t defend anyone for that.
Comparing this story, and replacing a women (because he is a man) in his position doesn’t change anything. Yes, some people (for example—this comment you made) will dislike and disagree with it; it’s just having a different mentality apart from what the character themselves think or decide to do. Which again, falls in line with the genre; considering no actually sane person could possibly want to be this downbad, it’s pleasant for some to just read it lol.
Joseis is a rough genre tho, haha always a hit or miss
No they didnt use it right, they didnt explain anything and just said "Double stsnadards" double standards of what? What are ppl treating differently? Do they have any evidence of this claim? Mixing up femdom and assault is not a double standard, you are retarded af and dont know basic english
No the response wouldnt be different at all, is this your first time reading comics or romance books? Dark romance where the male lead is agressive, captures the female lead, absues her etc are extremely popular genres. All over this platform there are stories like that, and even with BL yet the comments for the most part are positive with a few negative here and there, so no there is no double standard. Use your brain and actually do research before you start yapping. Fanfictions and comics are filled to the brim with sexual assault and bad treatment it is nothing new, to come here and spout your bs like this is the first time this has ever happened and ppl only like it cuz its the male being abused is disengenous and dumb. Like i said learn basic english first and actually do research before you start spouting your nonsense, stfu bitch u and that idiot are wrong. Get off your high horse
Another brain dead idiot joining a convo that has nothing to do with them. I suggest u also learn basic comprehension and get off your high horse bitch
There is no reason you said it, youre just trying to seem smarter then u actually are. Youre a loser that wants to seem morally superior, u think this is the first story or comic on line where no consent is given or abuse happens? Literally half the stories on this platform have that, whether its girl on guy, guy on guy or girl on girl. Dark romance with an abusive forceful male leads are huge genres with tons of readers, to act like ppl are only accepting it cuz a guy is hurt is bs. We get it you wanna be a mens rights activist but youre failing badly and looking stupid af. There is no double standard, u just desperately want there to be so u can appear better, learn the meaning and do research before spouting your drivel. Hope this helps!!!
Total nonsense, there are huge manwas, comics and books where the male lead is abusive forceful and uncaring about the female lead, and they are loved by female readers the same, obsessed with dark romance. Trying to make this into some double standard bs is disengenous. There are tons of comics on this app where the male lead is forceful to the woman, or to another man, and they are loved all the same. But i bet u dont go leaving these comments there
No they didnt cuz there is no double standard, this platform is filled with comics where male leads are abusive, forceful and cruel to the female lead or other male lead, and ppl eat it up just the same.
Holy shit you're actually retarded no joke, educate yourself
You're cracking me up. I'm not explain smt so obvious to you, and it's been reiterated several times by others. You just need to educate your dumb ass self but I fear not even a bit of research or logical explanations is gonna thin your thick ass skull
Omfg why are we discussing dark romance rn? You're just trying to connect unrelated things to one another. We're discussing a very specific sub genre of FEM DOM. Not generic dark romance. That's a whole other discussion.
So just because something is popular means it should be justified? And for your info, criticism isn't only limited to this manhwa. A lot of people with actual media literacy and logic, unlike your dumbass self, are capable of recognizing inherent flaws and instead of accepting it as "normal" they actually criticize it. Because criticism helps readers to realize all the negative aspects of sexual slop that is glorified. This manhwa is no different. No manhwa or work is to be exempted of criticism, so your argument about this shit being normal doesn't even matter because the problem is still there and will be addressed regardless of what you perceive as normal. Genuinely brain dead lmao. And to bring up dark romance and then try to act as though you're mighty and knowledgeable cuz you supposedly read books? Bae,please.. You can't even differentiate genres so you resort to useless generalizing when it has no effect. Anyhow, this manhwa romanticizes sexual assault and disguises as female empowerment and fem Dom when it isn't. It's just one of many manhwas made to glorify rape. I cannot even comprehend why you cannot understand such a simple concept like holy fuck.. Good luck with your education bro.. Your future is looking pretty dim lol
And to make it straight forward, the double standard is explained in the very last line. I made it brief and short so that you could understand. I love educating dumbass bitches