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What double standards? Do u even know what that word means? Yall learn a word and start spamming it with no brain cells

I don’t want to seem like that person b/c I don’t care for this story; I really only followed along for the guy she goes to college with (he’s hot). I can’t word it properly without seeming like I care strongly, or doubt that this is “SA”, but the guy did this all on purpose??
I’m not sure when the chapter it mentioned where he looked for that high of the daughter was posted, but it’s there. The beginning is very questionable, don’t get me wrong, I hate this story really only because the mom is involved sexually—it’s gross. They were kids, she would bully him, but he basically said he enjoyed it and was disappointed that she never came back to the orphanage. Him cracking her mom was his ticket to get closer to her, “toy” with her; so he says. I would argue it’s a consensual “roleplay”. Ofc the part where he’s drugged up was either mentioned briefly in that chapter or was just left in the air, either way unacceptable.
Again, don’t get me wrong I don’t like this story. I do think it’s a little unfair to the story itself to label it something it’s really not. Let’s not forget that this story, along with being a femdom, is a josei as well.

PREACH

THANK YOU.

Since you seem to be having trouble (yes this is meant to be condescending) "I'll do anything so please don't tell your mother" is NOT giving consent.

Bae look up the meaning of double standards before you come on here tryna act like a smart ass when u don't even have a clue abt what's going on so embarrassing lmao

Ily

I agree with what most of you have said. Ts is hella interesting story with handsome ahh characters. The reason why I said all this is because A LOT of people are just ignoring the red flags. Yea, this is supposed to be kinky shit but you have to admit that there is some kind of unacceptable things that need to be pointed out.

Just because the drugging happened “once” doesn’t make it better. And male lead doing allat just to see female lead is also NOT NORMAL! Just because he’s doing it knowingly doesn’t make it better either. Just says how fucked up his brain is. Bro male lead is MC’s AGE!! And the mother— so much older is knowingly grooming him. Yes, he is adult, but there’s still a big gap in level of maturity too. The mother has her authority, money and sex. That’s when the unfair power dynamic comes to play.

love josei and drama but what im trying to do is spread awareness. This is kinky and hot yes, but just swap out the genders bro. [A 20smt girl dating and live tgt with 40smt unc and that unc’s son also treated her like shit and use her], like?? if it goes like that the audience will treat this story VERY differently. That’s what I mean by DOUBLE STANDARDS.

(Also not all is intended to you I wanted to add more)

Still makes no sense, what exactly are people having double standards about? You are acting as if this is the first story in history where consent is blurry or not given. So once again u don't know what the phrase means and are just spamming it, hope this helps

Ik what double standards means u idiot, the writer is using it wrong. They just say double standards and have no context or explanation, what exactly is the double standard? Maybe you should use your brain and stop being biased for 2 seconds, dick riding some random that doesnt care about you. Both of u need to go back to basic english class and learn how to communicate, Hope this helps

Wow great, you explained what not giving consent is, wow so stupid and off topic. I asked what is the double standard not how is he not giving consent. Maybe learn basic english and comprehension skills before replying to me, just proving my even more

Woah, I am sorry if I used the words “double standards” wrongly because hey, English ain’t my first language man! But when I googled it, it is: a rule or standard of good behaviour that, unfairly, some people are expected to follow or achieve but other people are not. According to Cambridge dictionary!

And well, I think I used it correctly no?
Unfair to some people— as in male and female! The treatment of male and female in SA representation in manhwa!
I won’t repeat again, just go read what I said above about swapping the genders out.

In conclusion, what I meant was that the standard of girls needing pity and careful attention when they are SA, VS when a guy being SA yet the standard is “oh, hot. Femdom” that’s what I’m trying to imply!

If only YOU didn’t get it and a lot of other people got it, maybe it’s time for u to improve ur English! For me, reading ao3 or fanfics works haha.

Also, please do remember to be intellectually honest and kind, and if we’re talking about the manhwa, we’ll talk about the manhwa! We can agree to disagree!

Not fucking saying bullshit and talk shit about people u dumbfuck.

Aren't you something. I want you to reread what I said, and then maybe think hard as to WHY I said it. I'm not going to hold your hand since you claim to have such good reading comprehension skills.

Ragingfujoshi genuinely doesn't understand what double standards means. You used the term correctly.

Me when I don’t read my OWN text

Can u suggest some good ones? I Love femdom but most i find end up rapeyyy

Bitch you can't even spell right, tf R U on about and yes, the writer is using double standards right because people are treating the dub-con as normal consensual sex because of double standards. If it was a man manipulating and using force against a girl, the response would be entirely different. Since the gender roles are swapped, the response is completely neutral and positive, viewing the sexual assault to be an act of strength and dominance when it's just a heinous act committed by a woman who's exploiting a man's vulnerability to engage in sexual activities. Hope this helped you, you idiotic muppet! P.S. Not everybody needs to explain with context you dumb fuck, don't blame the writer for your incapability to process an argument without considering context clues, lmao

You used it right, the other person is just genuinely retarded and has some sort of superiority complex... For no reason brah it's just delusion atp

LITERALLY

You’re good! I understand the frustration, like I mentioned, I not once ever intended to defend the story; by all means keep talking, haha. I just do feel like like the story itself (apart from the mom situation.. I do feel like that’s another topic in itself; you can argue the mom is basically his owner, as he sold himself as a boy toy—I think that’s why the fl was being such an asshole, seeing as in her eyes “he’s hers”) is at the end of they day, his choice.
He’s an adult, and even in the latest chapter where he has his whole monologue does he say he intended all this, so unfortunately these are the consequences he ends up with. I’m not defending a 40yow, but he did what he did solely for the purpose of being around for the daughter. Im sure they’ll be a deeper dive (maybe) of why he decided the boy toy route. Like I said, the drug situation was unacceptable and I really did stop keeping track of that part of the story after that. I won’t defend anyone for that.
Comparing this story, and replacing a women (because he is a man) in his position doesn’t change anything. Yes, some people (for example—this comment you made) will dislike and disagree with it; it’s just having a different mentality apart from what the character themselves think or decide to do. Which again, falls in line with the genre; considering no actually sane person could possibly want to be this downbad, it’s pleasant for some to just read it lol.
Joseis is a rough genre tho, haha always a hit or miss

No they didnt use it right, they didnt explain anything and just said "Double stsnadards" double standards of what? What are ppl treating differently? Do they have any evidence of this claim? Mixing up femdom and assault is not a double standard, you are retarded af and dont know basic english

No the response wouldnt be different at all, is this your first time reading comics or romance books? Dark romance where the male lead is agressive, captures the female lead, absues her etc are extremely popular genres. All over this platform there are stories like that, and even with BL yet the comments for the most part are positive with a few negative here and there, so no there is no double standard. Use your brain and actually do research before you start yapping. Fanfictions and comics are filled to the brim with sexual assault and bad treatment it is nothing new, to come here and spout your bs like this is the first time this has ever happened and ppl only like it cuz its the male being abused is disengenous and dumb. Like i said learn basic english first and actually do research before you start spouting your nonsense, stfu bitch u and that idiot are wrong. Get off your high horse

Another brain dead idiot joining a convo that has nothing to do with them. I suggest u also learn basic comprehension and get off your high horse bitch

There is no reason you said it, youre just trying to seem smarter then u actually are. Youre a loser that wants to seem morally superior, u think this is the first story or comic on line where no consent is given or abuse happens? Literally half the stories on this platform have that, whether its girl on guy, guy on guy or girl on girl. Dark romance with an abusive forceful male leads are huge genres with tons of readers, to act like ppl are only accepting it cuz a guy is hurt is bs. We get it you wanna be a mens rights activist but youre failing badly and looking stupid af. There is no double standard, u just desperately want there to be so u can appear better, learn the meaning and do research before spouting your drivel. Hope this helps!!!

Total nonsense, there are huge manwas, comics and books where the male lead is abusive forceful and uncaring about the female lead, and they are loved by female readers the same, obsessed with dark romance. Trying to make this into some double standard bs is disengenous. There are tons of comics on this app where the male lead is forceful to the woman, or to another man, and they are loved all the same. But i bet u dont go leaving these comments there

No they didnt cuz there is no double standard, this platform is filled with comics where male leads are abusive, forceful and cruel to the female lead or other male lead, and ppl eat it up just the same.

Holy shit you're actually retarded no joke, educate yourself

You're cracking me up. I'm not explain smt so obvious to you, and it's been reiterated several times by others. You just need to educate your dumb ass self but I fear not even a bit of research or logical explanations is gonna thin your thick ass skull

Omfg why are we discussing dark romance rn? You're just trying to connect unrelated things to one another. We're discussing a very specific sub genre of FEM DOM. Not generic dark romance. That's a whole other discussion.

So just because something is popular means it should be justified? And for your info, criticism isn't only limited to this manhwa. A lot of people with actual media literacy and logic, unlike your dumbass self, are capable of recognizing inherent flaws and instead of accepting it as "normal" they actually criticize it. Because criticism helps readers to realize all the negative aspects of sexual slop that is glorified. This manhwa is no different. No manhwa or work is to be exempted of criticism, so your argument about this shit being normal doesn't even matter because the problem is still there and will be addressed regardless of what you perceive as normal. Genuinely brain dead lmao. And to bring up dark romance and then try to act as though you're mighty and knowledgeable cuz you supposedly read books? Bae,please.. You can't even differentiate genres so you resort to useless generalizing when it has no effect. Anyhow, this manhwa romanticizes sexual assault and disguises as female empowerment and fem Dom when it isn't. It's just one of many manhwas made to glorify rape. I cannot even comprehend why you cannot understand such a simple concept like holy fuck.. Good luck with your education bro.. Your future is looking pretty dim lol

And to make it straight forward, the double standard is explained in the very last line. I made it brief and short so that you could understand. I love educating dumbass bitches

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Your take is so valid, I agree

Yaoi (BL) features romantic and/or sexual relationships between men. So it is BL according to the definition. Even though the sex is drawn all smutty.......I'm still terrified the whole time because the characters are written so well. I'm not misled by the smut/erotica at all. This some psychological, tragedy, horror type shi. The "ML" being pretty and "sexy" is terrifying and reminds me of actual attractive men/women who commit vicious crimes then get fan edits of their trial on youtube. BUT I agree and/or I know what you mean.

I think you're mistaking BL and Yaoi as same thing; BL is short for "boys love", which is also known as shounen-ai, which is not smutty. Yaoi is term used mostly for mangas which includes sex scenes between men, sometimes yaoi mangas are often also bl, because there is romance between main charatcers

I personally wouldn't call this manhwa "BL", because there's not "Love" in it, but yaoi instead, because there's sex between men

But honestly I don't know if I would categorize it in any of those terms, because let's be real, there's no love, there's no homosexuality, no romance no nothing... I would say it's more of an psychological horror with only MrM scenes ;;

Also you're so real with the celebrities or tuening crimminals into idola because they're hot ;; honestly makes me nauseous just like this manhua lol... And lol I didn't read your comment completely, I agree with everything you said, just wanted to clear out the common misconception about term bl and yaoi being the same thing

I'm sorry, I should have specified. Dictative (In japan), BL and yaoi are separate. But I am referring connotatively, because in the west/mangago they are used interchangeably. It's a psychological yaoi because there are sexual themes involving men, even without love. I've been reading/watching yaoi/BL/shounen ai since 2009 so I know all the ACTUAL meanings. But I code switch depending on who I'm talking to, but you meant actual BUSINESS

YOU GET ME

Just wanted to add that the main reason yaoi and BL is not the same is because bl definitely have love, while yaoi might or might not have. It’s a bit off setting when u call this particular yaoi(a pure SEXUAL relationship and NO LOVE,) a BL(which definitely has contents of LOVE). Especially we both know that in this story, there is no love but just sex(forced & non consensual btw). So I almost that u saw the two of them as potential romantic partners. I know u probably didn’t mean it, but pls do know the importance of when u mistakenly use BL for a messed up yaoi like this

If you're old enough to read these disturbing genres, you should be able to distinguish whether this is love/romance or not without getting it confused by the offset of new fujoshis throwing around "BL." But I 100% understand why it's triggering for you tho! Words lose their meaning over time, even if the direct translation says otherwise, so I'm not hung up as much on vocabulary, I just care about intent, I'm sorry.

It’s alright, np tho. Sorry also cuz I’m a hardcore psychological fan so i get sensitive about these topics sometimes. I just didn’t want others to assume this has any love inside haha

It's on me, it took me years to not lose it when people called all yaoi porn. I shoulda known not to f around from one real fan to another lol

The official definition of Yaoi (BL) is works that feature romantic and/or sexual relationships between men. So it is yaoi, I'm sorry. It's just evil yaoi, unfortunately.

But , if you read novel you can understand that there is no romance in this , this is just a story of a two twisted men, here because thoughts and expressions of MC are not clearly shown we are not understanding but it's author never made it a romantic thing, heck at one point , during gang-rape scene, MC thoughts were so... Idk how to put it but real and even ending was twisted...

Okay dear read again, I said boys love, not yaoi. I’ve read A LOT of messed up and fucked up yaoi that is NOT boys love.

Omg thank u for saying how the novel is like!! I knew it, it’s a messed up psychological dynamic rather than a romantic one. Gosh, the artist really need to add more depths to the characters instead of just making them super duper hot. Also If u read the novel would u rec?

Sorry, I haven't read. Even though I they did a good job making the characters vile beyond all repair. I think I could only get through one iteration. I'm weak. But others in the comments said they've read it. And some webtoon sites (translated/raw and unofficially/officially translated) offer both

try your luck here, you have to search novels in korean of course: https://booktoki468.com/novel/7576586?book=%EC%99%84%EA%B2%B0%EC%86%8C%EC%84%A4

No offense but if you're going to read the novel which is ALSO just as torture porn-ey and are still reading the manhwa despite knowing of its fetishistic nature you can't really pull the psychology card lol.

Yeah try it, the art made it seem like twisted romance , if you read novel you will understand it is twisted obsession. Btw you can read it in novelupdates, name is "Empathy"

No, tbh I just love messed up things, like these twisted stuff with like even fetishistic nature. I love the dynamic of toxicity. the thing is, I can’t see them as in love and idw it to be so focused on porn either, because that’s not the main thing I want, I want plot, characters. All these brutal stuff that seme does to uke just (unfortunately) add depths to the fucked up ness. Also, I explained why in the other comment above

Sure, I get that. But the plot itself in this story is very sparse in comparison to the violence. Which is why I said I found the whole “just here for the plot!!” Rationale to be disingenuous. There are stories that don’t linger so intensely on the traumatic act itself and focus on the effects on the person, but this isn’t really that kind of story.

If ur here, ur no better than anyone. Cry harder

Ur telling me that me, a person who likes psychology genre reading this manhwa as psychological is no better than somebody else right now reading this manhwa as porn and getting off and fetishizing to rape and sexual assault???

Oh shit ur right I should just drop this and read other masterpieces HAHAHA

maybe it will be +18 in season 3 ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Nope... I heard they said the yaoi tag was a mistake

No way…