Wrong manga. Don't bother clicking, there is only disappointment here. I love this manga (the *actual* manga) so this screw-up was particularly cruel!
Yoshino in the extra: "I don't mind you doing it alone - no, that would make me feel guilty."
Oh, my sweet summer child. When has anyone ever stopped masturbating just because they're in a relationship??? I mean sure, if you're having sex at least once every day or so you MIGHT not ever get horny when your significant other isn't around/up for it. But under any normal circumstances, self-love is self-care!
I wasn't expecting to like this so much! Oh man, stacked baker hottie with long hair... delicious.
The way I see this is that Hozumi has realised that his mum threw him away to be with the man she left with - she was single-minded and threw everything away for the one she loved. (Not judging, nor excusing, just explaining.) Hozumi has ALSO realised that he himself is like that too, when it comes to the person HE loves. He hates his mum for being that way, because it hurt him then when she threw him away and it still hurts him now. So he kind of hates himself for being that way too, and he's wondering who he has or will hurt the way his mum hurt him. He can't stop crying because being with Yamato, the person he loves, obviously keeps all of this spinning around in his head.
And he's had nobody to talk to about any of it, and can't bring himself to try to tell Yamato (the only person he really has to talk to), "My love for you makes me feel bad," and try to explain all of the underlying stuff making him feel that way.
Oh, and seeing his mum the way he did obviously would have been awful, and again he had nobody to talk to.
And one last thing! I agree with the people who feel that Yamato should put his dick away and get Hozumi to talk to him.
I think the only reason they're having sex in this moment is for Hozumi to calm down bc he can't stop crying and sex can calm him down and relive stress
I mean, right now, Yamato is doing his best to give Hozumi the physical affection and security he needs. Yamato did ask to talk about it but because Hozumi was still mentally processing the stress, he didn't know how to vocalise said stress. Obviously, Yamato could have used a better way to ground Hozumi, but I mean, he ain't no therapist;;; so he did what he could to try to show that he loved Hozumi, and that he was there for him, also to try to cheer him up/calm him down by giving him physical affection to calm his insecurities, because up till now, Hozumi's insecurities was about losing Yamato, so the fact that he's physically reassuring him is all he knew to do. Gotta give the kid some credit man. I mean sure, they didn't have to fuck, but it wouldnt be 15+ pages long :")
Yesssss
It's like he's never heard of any other kind of physical affection... how about a hug bro? But seriously, holding him close? Making him a goddamn cup of tea and giving him a few minutes to calm down? And then just holding him quietly? Nope nope, lick his nipple and finger him.
Don't get me wrong, I'm amused at the yaoi logic.
"Get a sex scene in the next chapter, sensei, or we might lose readers!!"
"But, editor, it's kind of a pivotal moment for Hozumi, emotionally and psychologically..."
"SEX SCENE PLS."
But a part of me will judge Yamato if he can get it up in these circumstances.
Well it's not just yaoi logic there are definitely ppl who do this irl but it's all about the mentality of ppl
I have to disagree, I think it definitely is yaoi logic at work here. Yaoi is a world in which dick is often seen as a cure-all.
In the real world, anyone who is comfortable fucking their crying partner's problems away, without even knowing what those problems are (that's the crucial part), has something wrong with them. Even if it's only that they have the emotional maturity of a biscuit.
They were hugging. Yamato was already holding him. Every couple, and everyone have different ways of coping and different ways of reacting. There are real life couples who prefer to have sex to feel reassurance. Hozumi can have a cup of tea to calm down, but that wouldn't provide reassurance or confidence. They also haven't met in a while, so a hug or s kiss, understandably, would not have legitimately dismiss the insecurities built up during their time apart.
I mean, yes, they could have a quiet moment together, and yes, it could be made to be great and honestly, there are ways to make it work. But again, individual differences are a thing.
Maybe it is because it is a yaoi manga that sex was used to resolve or to reassure Hozumi, but it was what Yamato felt he could do.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I feel that it was true to their relationship and dynamic. When Yamato had problems, he held onto Hozumi and then I think they did the do. But there was also the moment when they held onto each other. But it wasn't reassurance enough, he wanted to feel more secure and Hozumi wanted to let him feel secure. The same goes here. Yamato wants Hozumi to feel secure, and in a sense, this was their way of communicating their love and security.
Look man, I could go all day talking about this, and honestly, it's fair that it may be yaoi logic, but it's nice to think about it a little differently.
But there are fucked up ppl like that..
They hugged for all of about a minute. Then Hozumi started struggling out of the apron, and rather than saying, "Maybe this is a sign, just stay close to me and breathe for a bit," Yamato was like, "Yeah, okay, sex it is."
I have to disagree with your implication that non-sexual physical intimacy is somehow lesser or doesn't mean enough, compared to sex. Yeah some real life couples do prefer to have sex instead of work through problems, but those couples usually don't have lasting relationships.
Yamato and Hozumi have a history of figuring out that misunderstandings and problems are best dealt with by talking to each other, trusting and relying on each other. It would have been nicer for me if that development and growth had continued in this situation. Find out what Hozumi is upset about, by talking, THEN sex would have been fine. It's going straight to sex without even knowing what the problem is that I have issues with, not sex as a way of feeling better in general.
Considering what Hozumi is upset about (since we know what it is, which Yamato doesn't), I actually doubt that losing himself in his feelings for Yamato by having sex is going to make Hozumi feel better, in the long run. And just think about it: if Hozumi had told Yamato, "My feelings for you are making me not like myself," would Yamato feel that having sex with him would be the way to resolve that? It's a bit unfair on Yamato, truthfully.
But yeah, this issue wasn't even the point of my original comment, and I'm perfectly happy to agree to disagree.
Honestly, 10/10 agree to your disagreement, that physical affirmation or sex is better. I guess my comment was implying so, though personally, every couple has their way of reassurance, and I didn't mean to imply so. Personally, not being able to express emotions through words, body language and physical affirmation is my personal go to when met with emotional turmoil.
I understand what you mean. I guess for me, it's cause I trusted them to communicate it so the sequence of which came first didn't really bother me? I guess, generally, it boils down to our personal differences that Yamato and Hozumi should've or didn't have to communicate before sex? And also our values?
I've just started reading the first chapter and have a question - I'm not criticising, translation into a language that's not someone's first language is really difficult! And English grammar is very hard to learn as a 2nd language. But I do want to ask, does the translation get better at some point, after the first chapter? (eg. maybe the group gets a QC or proofreader to help with the grammar?)
Um, no thanks. Please don't post updates like this, even though I'm sure it was done with lovely intentions. I honour your intentions, but please don't.
For those who would (understandably!) say "Don't complain about free stuff": I'm still waiting for the notification email that tells me I can finally buy this series in English legally. I will immediately give Yoneda Kou my money to get my hands on hard copies of this series in English. In the meantime, this sort of upload honestly cheapens Yoneda Kou's work.
Mangaka: Draws tiny childlike ukes.
Tiny childlike uke: I'm Rintarou, 18 years old!
Me: Mate, if you're 18 then I'm a sparkly rainbow unicorn.
Holy shit, I had totally forgotten his age and thought he was like 12.
No. Nope. Hachidori still had sex with someone else so fuck him. Nope not feeling it. It's different in stories where it's clearly a friends-with-benefits relationship, in that case sex with others is fine, or plot-relevant, or excusable. But in this story with Hachi being all possessive and "He's mine nobody else can go near him grrr stalky tracking app because I'm a nutjob," it just leaves a horrible impression that he's having sex with other people. What is the mangaka thinking??
exactly! i honestly wanted to see more character development on the semes end. hes an asshole who does not deserve the uke honestly i wish he actually ended up with the other dude cuz he seemed so nice even took him out to an arcade like thats the kind of treatment a real couple should have not purely sex and possessiveness. ALSO what logic is that?? i can fuck who ever i want but you cant touch anyone else??? the seme needs to get himself checked. (︶︿︶)＝凸
Seriously, wtf is going on? He was supposed to be 20 years old. They have a 12 year age gap, which should make him 20, and a uni student. But it turns out he's in high school. I'M SO DISAPPOINTED. The story could play out exactly the same way - and I LIKE the way it's playing out - with him in 2nd year of university.
I don't like it that he's in high school, I don't care if it's actually 18yo/30yo and there was just a bit of a mistranslation. Turns out he's correct in describing himself as "a kid." Sorry, high schoolers. The vast majority of kids in high school just don't have enough experience of the world for it to be okay for adults to have a relationship with them. There's a big gap in experience, and the understanding that comes with time and experience, which means the relationship is intrinsically unbalanced. I can't actually understand how a grown-ass adult *could* "fall in love" with a high schooler (being a grown-ass adult myself). Having said all that, I still think "grooming" is inaccurate. People are throwing that term at a lot of manga lately. Sometimes it's true, but imo grooming is different from what is going on here.
...But fuck's sake, keep it in your pants until after he graduates and has started life after high school.
I shall act as if I never heard that, and that he is a college student.
But I also don’t understand why it needed to be a high school
Oh my god, from the beginning I wanted chapter 3, but I didn't realise just how much!!!