Lmao I don't understand these people who are cursing the ml rn ..........just imagine hearing ur wife is pregnant but you can't possibly be the father coz of race issue and you guys expect him to stay rational?
I mean...he said in earlier chapters that he couldn't blame her for cheating. That's how bad, nay, non existent their relationship is.
He's the one that ignored his wife for three years. Even if she had cheated who is he to get mad? He can't even claim that it is within her nature to cheat on him. He doesn't know shit about her, and never gave her a chance to know shit about him.
It's not just this one action of his that he has done so far. He has been consistently making up his own ideas and refuses to listen to anything she says, often gaslighting her and putting her down to get what he wants. I get that he was shocked that she had conceived but he is outright refusing to listen to her. This is why people are pissed. He has his complexes and issues and projects them onto her constantly without even attempting to listen or improve himself, their relationship even after he has seen what they do to her in his absence first hand. THIS is why people hate him.
Yes. Exactly this. Plus the pregnancy fiasco was also partially caused by him. If he had been honest with her from the start, this wouldn't have happened and she would have understood but because he refused to tell her anything, she was given god knows what to induce symptoms of pregnancy and now he accused her of cheating. Eventually, they will find out that she was never pregnant, and the only hope she has gained will be snatched away once again and she will be left with a husband who once again refused to listen to her and called her a cheater. Even if he didn't directly cause this, he is somewhat responsible for this.
You being mad generous by saying he is just somewhat responsible. LOL
But yeah I agree. It's gonna get rough. This is gonna push her over a cliff. She's already committed suicide twice. Without the baby I doubt she will want to carry on. I mean to have a husband that accuses her of cheating, and then to have parents in law willing to deceive her like this. She is a pure victim, she's done nothing worth this much pain.
@Mece and @Zapphire the both of you stated nothing but pure facts. He has his own dark past but that doesn't mean he should be free of judgment for the way he has neglected her for 3 years. So busy wallowing in his own self pity that even when he's witness and discovered the hardships and abuse she's faced firsthand he still ignores her, talks down to her and continues to project his hardships and insecurities. He deserves the hate he gets.
I don't blame Violet for her suicide attempts because being treated this way by someone you genuinely love can drive anyone's mental and emotional state up the fucking wall.
EXACTLY EXACTLY
Honestly, I don't get why people are defending Winter since the beginning. Put an ugly guy in his place who isn't the ml but the abusive asshole she's trying to get away from WITH the help of friends/ family/ potential love interest, and then we'll see how many people are willing to understand him and his circumstances and are illing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Cuz he has been a jerk from the start. People already didn't like him.
Also, he is a stupid twat for his incorrect assumption.
spoiler:
guess who will have children with who
Lookism as usual. If he looked like a gremlin he would not have this many people coming to his defense. Handsome or ugly, an asshole is an asshole.
I agree with you, am just adding that since we know him to be the ml, some people might also be biased cuz of that. But I think that what you said about lookism is very valid, especiallyw within everyday life
I hate it when the fl's expect the characters to behave the same way from the og novel when they have already started changing things ,people behave differently with the way you behave, like seriously
I kind of agree but still, I think it's realistic. How would you react if you were isekaied into the movie Frozen, for example, and Olaf started being a huge fucking asshole. That'd be surprising. You'd wonder why Olaf's being like that when he was depicted as being such a bubbly, positive character. It's a tad annoying but give the fl's some slack.
I completely agree with this. Also, usually when we read novels, we ship the FLs and MLs right? Imo as a hardcore shipper it would be pretty hard to get over shipping them; I'd feel weird putting myself in between two characters I (supposedly) like.
LMFAO! THISSSS!!! Imagining Olaf just smoking a cigar and is a big lazy sourpuss
I know I am not talking about the shipping and all but usually when the ml's clearly show interest in them they deny their feelings coz of the novel they read .... wouldn't ur feelings be hurt if you knew the reason for their rejection? I would be super hurt if someone rejected my feelings like that
I am not particularly talking about this fl but overall all the isekai one's
Well because you’re already reincarnated as a side character or villainess that’s fated to die. So off the bat you’re an “unimportant character to the story.” Despite the isekai’d people do things in order to change their fate, it’s not as if it’s a sure thing that the ML will NOT fall for the FL of that world as a consequence of the isekai’d peraon’s actions.
It’s not unreasonable for them to want to help the storyline, that they know of, move along.
Coming to terms that you unexpectedly developed feelings for someone who you aren’t supposed to fall for because you’re trying to keep the original storyline together (ofcourse after surviving) is hard. You don’t know if you’re allowed to.
For example, what happens if after you’ve done what you were transported there to do and served your purpose, that you get transmigrated back to your original world? Or the thought of the PErson of Interest not being fully happy unless they’re with that “destined” person is a valid concern because since the book the transmigrated person read that the POI is destined for someone else for their complete happiness...it’s not far fetched and a realistic belief/train of thought.
However I do agree that transmigrated people, especially smart bookworm ones, should have reasoning or common sense regarding cause and effect. It’s strange that they’re shocked every time the story they know is changing...well no shit. You changed it so that you can live.
Olaf the raging alcoholic lmfaooo
I think it's realistic to at least expect disbelief and denial, but sometimes these steps can be overextended. So I agree that sometimes the authors have a tendency of overcomplicating these reactions.
And sorry for putting shipping in the discussion even though you didn't put it in your post. I guess I just see a lot of posts similar to this and automatically replied to a post like that in my head, my mistake.
Yup yup they exaggerate it and no problem about that at all and thanks for not being rude people here attack me just coz I stated my opinion sometimes cursing and all (〒﹏〒)
AHHH sorry if my comment came off as rude earlier that was definitely not what I meant. The word choice may have been off, but I just thought it was funny. I wrote it to visualize Olaf being an asshole, not to invalidate your opinion. I agree with what you said, and even if I didn't it's still your opinion and I don't have any right to criticize you for it. I didn't mean to come off as if I was attacking you im so sorry T_T
No no not at all it was really funny about Olaf though I just said you are different than those people who were being rude don't worry I didn't mind what you said at all
Well this fl is stupid why is she thinking of running away? The brother went crazy in the og novel becoz his sis had died and did all the psychotic things becoz the og fl resembled his sis but she is alive why would he go crazy? So stupid she could say a word and her bro would do anything for her
Hes already gone crazy is the problem. She said that about 2 years ago is when he finally snapped. He'll get better at some point because FL will change him or something.
Basically, he went crazy after the sister went missing, she already went missing. The current one is a fake and if he catches on, it could go badly.
Plus, she might have a sadistic, narcissistic side.
Personally, I would stay cuz I like free stuff.
My question is why is she scared of him and trying to run away? He loves her I am sure he will never do anything to harm her so why?
she not stupid. Why would she wanna stay with them? Nah
do you want a brother like that? I wouldn't be able to breathe-
Probably because its stressful to be doted on by a psychotic man and if you say something bad about a person, dislike what they did, dislike what they made then he'd literally kill that other person by dawn. The chef would've died had she said that the food didn't suit her tastes.
She ain't stupid, she ain't you, she ain't stupid like you. She values her life and freedom more than material things. So, don't bother her just because she has a free will.
Lmao you make it seem like she's a living person and cursing a real human here.
Well, her decisions do make more sense other than someone who's only full about fantasies.
If you're gonna use that argument, you got to drop everything you have said.
"you make it seem like she's a living person-" you spoke of her as though she is a real human being first. You questioned her choices.
I never thought she's a real human being tho I would never curse someone over fictional characters....I may curse a fictional character but no I won't curse a real human over it
Neither did the other person.
And characters represent a lot to us, so yes, if you insult a concept people like, they won't like you.
Can someone give me the novel link?