Reading about all these hosts and shit made me look into the job description more, low key wouldn't mind working at a hostess bar... (⊙…⊙ )
WELP if the PhD in Clinical Psychology doesn't work out, and the acting career fails then the singing career fails... I'LL KNOW WHERE TO GO! <3
Im also taking up psych~ seems we found our fallback career hahaha ╮(￣▽￣)╭
As someone who is heavily invested in psychology: Does no one else see that what that ex manager did is technically assault? Also the dream that Shiwoo had was of MR EX MANAGER RAPING HIM. This obviously left a lot of heavy scars on his psyche.
Looking at this from his point of view, he probably is as active as he is because for him it's a way he can regain control over his body. Shiwoo possible feels like he has no control over himself, as well as the fact that he obviously doesn't think highly of himself, this could lead to him being self destructive which would explain why he doesn't seem to care so much about who he sleeps with.
To people who will say "Shiwoo was so wanting Ex manager Hyun's dick tho!" Let me point out one: The dream that featured Shiwoo being raped (Noted by how he calls out for Hyun to stop and that it hurts and this wasn't indicated as the weird fetishised rape talk thing since no arousal hearts were accompanying them.) Shiwoo then wakes up from the dream in a panic and trembling, he also starts crying. MAY I ALSO POINT OUT, Hyun literally slammed SHiwoo against a wall and forcefully kissed him, as well as mount him. Shiwoo does tell him not too but Hyun continues anyway. I would imagine that since Hyun and Shiwoo were dating for sometime, it could be that Hyun's "orders" are triggers to Shiwoo. He switches mindsets during the act but reverts to himself afterwards, indicated by the horrified look he has in the end of chapter 30.
To those saying that Shiwoo is a slut since he slept with Yujin right afterwards: Again, trying to regain control over himself and his situation. If he consensually has sex with yujin, he is re claiming his body.
I feel really bad for Shiwoo honestly. I think he's been through a lot and could benefit from some serious therapy.
Yeah that’s true. The way the uke behave obviously affected by some traumatic past. Don’t care how many bitchy behaviour that Shiwoo shows, I always get a glimpse he is scared and confused.
up for this
Meant to upvote. I honestly don’t get all the hate for this uke.
Sorrz sis i have read the raw.
That guz is a hoe
"thanks for the meal"
"gochisousamadeshita"
Literally what I said after I gave my first blowjob (≧∀≦)
TMI dude
LMAO
HOLY SHIT (≧∀≦)
CHANWOOOOO
YOU ARE TOO PRECIOUS!!!! He was concerned that DG was in an unhealthy relationship!!!!!! THAT T+RIGHT THERE IS A FRIEND MAH DUDES!!!!!! I wish Alex wasn't such a jerk. I want DG to leave him high and dry and let Alex come crawl... ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I skipped the first three chapters because I can't handle sad shit right now...
IKRRR. I didn't even notice. I thought it was going to be those usual slutty ukes who has an happy ending but noooooo, I didn't notice there were two stories.
Chapter five was totally fucked up. Like no offence to people who liked it, but I hated the whole "rape" thing where it wasn't "yaoi rape" but literal "ruin your life rape" because that girl was probably traumatised and so was that dude, and "love" is not an acceptable reason to fuck someone up like that.
GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER ALEX. OH MY FUCKIN GOD I CAN'T. YOU DON'T DESERVE DONG GYUN AND HUNNY HE CAN DO BETTER THAN YOUR STUPD ASS BITCH ASS FLPPITY FLOPPITY ASS FROG ASS BITCH.
With diamonds!!
How can DG do better when he doesn't have any friends any social skills or social life at all?
He is below average borderline loser.
Realistically speaking he got lucky.
Jiwon could do better than DG
DG doesn't have anything special going on about his appearance but most importantly he has no personality and has a drinking problem.
That is partly why everyone ignores him or aren't even aware of his existence.
And the few who rarely interact with him only do it in order to take advantage of him because that's just how DG is.
An easy target not only for Jiwon but for everyone.
You may like him but he has no potential without Jiwon.
And DG has and can only benefit from Jiwon more than Jiwon can benefit from DG.
DG cannot go anywhere or do anything without the guidance of a strong male in this case preferably Jiwon.
The only one that gives value to the character of DG is Jiwon.Without him in the story DG would be extra boring and nobody would like him.
All of this is false ╮(￣▽￣)╭ like I said before in the other topic. Sure, Mingwa could have given him a few more personality quirks but he's not as useless and pathetic as you make him sound. I mean, we get it. You're a Jiwon fan boy. That's fine. You have your reasons. But typing the same thing over and over again to those who do like DG more than Jiwon isn't doing much
:D
I think all of you are DG fans.I'm only being objective and I do not respond just to people who prefer DG over Jiwon but to people who are aggressive and negative or even hateful towards Jiwon like this post where the op says stupid fangirling insulting things like "Jiwon you stupid ass bitch" and "DG doesn't deserve you" like Jiwon or any other man is not a trophy so stop objectifing gay men.
Please take a look at this person comment and tell me that I shouldn't had argued or that this person is right about what they say and about calling Jiwon names.
If you are a serious adult you understand what I'm talking about.
All this person post is stupid non objective pure fan girl in over DG and degrading and borderline hating on Jiwon.
What is the "false" in my comment?
Does DG have any real friends?No.
Does anyone know he even exists in school?No.
Does he have a social life?No.
His character so far has revolved around Jiwon and it will continue being that way or as I predict once the main couple finally gets together the story will soon end and there will still not be any significant character development for DG.
Instead of being mature and arguing with me in a constructive discussion you chose the easy way of simply calling me a fanboy.
Also the double standards are real in your case because when people constantly post hate about Jiwon and unjustified praise about DG basically everyone here is saying the same things over and over again and yet the only one who bothers you is me and you feel like I'm the only one "repeating"?
OK.
But I hope you think both my responses to your totally wrong judgment a little bit.
Anyways...
@Fruit
(This comment actually compelled me to signup, so kudos to you.)
"How can DG do better when he doesn't have any friends any social skills or social life at all?
Jiwon isn't in a much better space than DG, actually, he's worse off. Jiwon doesn't have any friends, the student council members aren't really his friends, their associates at best. Hell, nobody knows where he lives when he gets so drunk he blacks out.
"He is below average borderline loser."
I don't know how to answer this because this seems more subjective than "objective". What makes someone a loser change depends on who you're asking.
"Realistically speaking he got lucky."
This, I agree with you on. Not because I think DG is a loser, it's just based on the fact that he's a fan of BJ Alex. And considering the circles they hang around, they most likely wouldn't notice each other.
"Jiwon could do better than DG"
Oh, I'm going to have fun with this one. How is Jiwon better than DG? Because he's handsome? Has money? A better body? Or that he hangs around the student council, so it gives the illusion that he has friends. (Although we do know he has good grades, hence he's smart.) This is not their fault, by the way...It just seems he holds everyone at arm's length. As a matter of fact, Jiwon is not well adjusted at all. He's carrying a lot of emotional scars. From his parents not caring about him to the fact he can't get over the first guy, he loved playing him for a fool. Really, that last one is such a big deal, that it's the reason why Jiwon doesn't realize that he cares about DG. It's the reason why, up to now, he didn't want ANY relationship at all. Not to mention that he admits he doesn't have a good personality when BJ MD prods him (see chapter 19). But hey, he's still better than DG, right? We're being objective here. (/sarcasm) And I just remembered why it is he likes streaming...He enjoys the love and admiration people give him...
"DG doesn't have anything special going on about his appearance" (um, that's subjective) "but most importantly he has no personality and has a drinking problem."
DG has a personality, I don't know where you got this from. From what we've seen, DG is manipulative (see chapter 28), is a bit of a crybaby (also 28), keeps to himself, hardworking, doesn't know how to stop liking someone once he starts, happy, shy, unsure, enthusiastic, non-confrontational. Not all of these are good personality traits, but there seems to be something there...
And the only time when we see DG have anything akin to an actual drinking problem, is when he gets so miserable over his situation with Jiwon, that he drinks to excess the wine Jiwon gives him. Then bursts into Jiwon's streaming session. Otherwise, we know DG likes beer, and it's never been a problem up until that point. The first time we see DG drink too much is when Jiwon propositions him, in which case that could be marked down as being overly enthusiastic.
"That is partly why everyone ignores him or aren't even aware of his existence."
No one in school is aware of him(besides Jiwon) because DG is shy. So can't really say he has a personality or not he really doesn't interact with people. That's different from having no personality.
"And the few who rarely interact with him only do it in order to take advantage of him because that's just how DG is. An easy target not only for Jiwon but for everyone."
I need to see the situations where DG is taken advantage of by people to even agree or disagree.
"You may like him but he has no potential without Jiwon."
And as stated before neither does Jiwon, Jiwon may hook them with his good looks. But most people with common sense (and aren't shallow) would leave when they see his true colors.
"And DG has and can only benefit from Jiwon more than Jiwon can benefit from DG."
Really how many hangups does DG have compared to Jiwon? Minus his slight lack of backbone, which seems to be growing in just fine. I mean he turned do Jiwon's dumbass proposition to be fuckbuddies again...
"DG cannot go anywhere or do anything without the guidance of a strong male in this case preferably Jiwon.
The only one that gives value to the character of DG is Jiwon.Without him in the story DG would be extra boring and nobody would like him."
Wow, you're being really objective here...(that's sarcasm.) Or DG can have a friend to guide him, help him figure out what he likes, helps him get over a break up...Or try to repair the "relationship" he had with Jiwon. Oh great I'm talking about Chanwoo and the boss lady again...
"What is the "false" in my comment?
Does DG have any real friends? No."
Yes, actually. Chanwoo and to a lesser extent their boss.
"Does anyone know he even exists in school? No."
This is true.
"Does he have a social life? No."
Yes, when Chanwoo manages to drag him out or invites himself over.
"His character so far has revolved around Jiwon"
And so has Jiwon's, as again Jiwon has nobody to turn too when things get rough.
Who helped DG get over their "breakup", Chanwoo and their boss. (How many times have a said this?)
Honestly, I would have left this comment alone if it wasn't for the statement that all your problems with DG are objective aka fact based. Most seemed subjective and draped in bias. And it's kind of hard to dismiss the picture of Jiwon as your avatar. It just seemed like you didn't like someone trashing Jiwon. Which I can understand. Both of them are flawed characters. There was situations where I didn't like DG at all...I'd talk about them but this comment is long enough.
Well its also hard for me to dismiss the fact that your username is "misanthropist" that must mean you hate people.
I disagree with you.
But right now I don't have time to go in depth.
However I will mention a few examples were DG is used by others in one of the early chapters some other students want him to work on some project all by himself.
At the school festival people made him carry everything for them even the boxes they should had carried themselves.
MD uses DG to get to Chanwoo...
Overall I don't like the hate Jiwon gets more do I think he deserves to suffer or beg a guy like DG who I am not convinced he truly loves Jiwon.
I couldn't have typed it better
Man I was just trying to be lighthearted and funny...this became real srs real fast... Both sides make sense tbh... But I DO wanna point out: It's a romance manhwa solely about the relationship of DG and Jiwon... So... yeah... They probably won't have much going on outside of each other considering it's mostly for the relationship aspect.
ALSO: I don't personally like Jiwon for DG and think Dg can do better because of how abusive Jiwon actually is... BUT at the same time I also understand social constructs when it pertains to appearance. Obviously Jiwon is supposed to be set as an incredibly good looking character. So yeah maybe he has more options when it comes to initial impressions and casual sex.
TBH: They both need therapy.. Especially Jiwon. Maybe DG could do with just a bit more "finding himself" and self love and can go without the profesional help. BuT They both need to figure their shit out. Neither of the are in a good mental/emotional state to be realistically looking for a relationship. This is coming from a depressed chick who's suicidal as fuck so I know what I'm talking about when I say "love yourself before someone else"