This work is purely fiction, but it has brought up something real. A victim able to climax from SA-er/grapist who may or may not not their partner is not the victim’s fault. I see a few comments which IMO is implying blame on the MC for having a normal physical reaction to someone messing with him when he’s not in his right mind, his body has been changed & conditioned without his consent, it’s literally not his fault, and if this were a real SA/grape situation, no matter what, it’s not a victim’s fault they can’t 100% control what their body does. There is a science behind this, nerves, muscles, really are grouped into whether they are voluntary or involuntary meaning whether they can be controlled or not by human will.
I swear the last 3-4 updates I’ve been reading the same chapter over and over again. Or am I going crazy? This is a new chapter, the chapter number keeps going up, but I swear I read this already???
I feel like people don’t give Gyuha enough credit for how wonderful he is as a character. He’s definitely not perfect, there are things he could work on but ultimately he doesn’t even have to…before getting married & having a kid, he was living his life well, he’s young, a man, had a job, why couldn’t he party & be a little crazy? Chayoung was the Same, they tag teamed partners and had orgys together.
People saying he’s always cold, I don’t think he’s cold, I see that he’s more laidback sarcastic. Besides, he and chayoung been rivals or whatever since they were young, they grew up together, their families are rivals too, why would Gyuha be super kind and loving to chayoung with that kind of backstory? Not to mention ML again, wasn’t that nice either. He’s the one who chased Gyuha and proposed being FWBs & made Gyuha bottom.
Anyways, as soon as Gyuha found out he was pregnant, he changed 180. Immediately stopped partying, stopped hanging out with nobodies, stopped eating and drinking bad, the whole 9. It’s shown he barely lets loose and only does when he’s sure his kid is well taken care of. Gyuyoung would not be that wonderful as a kid if Gyuha wasn’t a great parent.
Also chayoung saying “if anything goes wrong he will leave” did yall forget he is obsessively stalking Gyuha 24/7 this whole time? If I were Gyuha, already texting and calling chayoung all the time, already letting him know who I’m with, when where how why, all of that, and find out your husband is still stalking you? That would hurt me because I’m already doing what I’m supposed to do but you don’t trust me or what? I’d leave too. It’s like those dads that ask for a paternity test out of absolutely nowhere. And chayoung knows this; which is why it’s a secret.
If anything Chayoung is more cold than Gyuha. The way he literally didn’t care about Gyuha actually wanting the baby until he found out it was his. He literally doesn’t care about anyone else besides those who benefit him and Gyuha and his family.
But I love both characters, they’ve come so far, they are foils to each other, they know each other the best and they wouldn’t be where they are without both of them 100% understanding and supporting each other to be the best of themselves.
I just want Gyuha to get his flowers too. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I’m not going to argue with anyone, but I’m just so confused why so many people seems to think Chayoung is better than Gyuha or something and Gyuha needs to be this or that or whatever when Chayoung is just as bad if not worse, like who stalks their own spouse secretly? Who does that? Who proposes a FWB deal & gets mad that “Fwb” isn’t loving to you? Chayoung does.
So MC thinks ML should be with a woman, ML says no, and so MC is like “ok then sleep with me since you said you only want me” but ML wont/but it’s not really his fault due to the drugs & being a virgin/being in civil war for so long, so now MC is like do you want me or not? And now the ML wants him, but with no sexual experience & the MC just immediately/accidentally kind of traumatizing him, plus he’s secretly a black belly yandere that for some reason he is worried yet not worried the MC will found out about, and now both are miserable because of themselves & no one else can really help but everyone’s walking on eggshells around them …
I love them both so much thank goodness our sweet delicate flower Ho set ML straight. Like if he don’t want Ho, I WILL take him
Those wanna be hos better not be talking about my baby Ho! Someone transport me into this book so I can help his hot bf and hot married friend to beat them up.
So I loved what’s being shown in the manhwa here. I loved it so much, I went to go read the novel. The newest chapter here is chapter 20-25 of the novel.
I need help on deciding whether I should drop this or not lol.
here’s the spoiler: the uke sees his painting, his painting holds very deep trauma for him because he painted it when he was just feeling neglected from his parents as teenagers do, he was 16, the painting represents his loneliness and anguish, his parents so far has not neglected him in any way whatsoever but this is just a little flashback, idk the whole story, anyway…and then right after this painting, his mom died & his loving father abandoned him. So to him, this painting “ruined his life”. Seeing the painting, the uke had a black out panic attack & he wakes up in the ML’s house & everyone else is gone, he has no memory, he just blacked out & woke up in ML’s guest room.
Here’s more spoiler: the novel is written in uke's 1st person perspective so far, it has a lot of details, way more than the manhwa. I didn’t actually read the chapters, I just skimmed to find the chapter to match the book.
The ML takes care of the uke, and the uke is acting all baby to the ML & the ML doesn’t mind, the uke knows too that he’s being a bit babyish, but he catches the ML smiling and whatnot so he feels encouraged to keep up his baby act & he also justifies “I need the ML’s help anyway since I’m in his house, I don’t know anything in here & it’s rude for me to refuse the host’s favor”
He was so baby that the ML had to watch uke brush his teeth, use the bathroom and whatnot because if the ML walked away, apparently the uke would be traumatized again?the uke legit didn’t let ML out of his sight and ML caught uke watching him in the bathroom mirror. To me, this is so weird. Here’s where I’m like, I feel like dropping this cuz why you need someone to watch you do bathroom stuff? But I never been in a trauma situation like that, maybe I’m just spoiled idk…
Anyways, the uke is like “I like this older, smart, handsome, kind, experienced man taking care of me, I will just owe him, he’s so nice, & ML is right, being alone is not safe for me” idk, they both just tacitly agreed without real words & somehow decided uke being alone was dangerous & needed ML to baby him & watch him do his bathroom routine, idk…
To his credit, Uke did try to leave but the ML didn’t let him, the ML justifies uke staying by being like “I know you just went through unimaginable trauma, I’m older, wiser, more experienced, let me help you, trust me, I know how to handle this stuff” (ok ML didn’t say it like this at all, but that’s the feeling I get from uke inner thoughts) and uke is just like “yeah, you’re right” and is in awe of ML, he sees ML for the first time as a very wise, very admirable, very gentlemanly person who’s also very much older than him….like “this is the true power of an older man”
ML even hides the painting so uke can’t see it and get traumatized again. Which is good.
Here’s where I want to drop the story: the ML somehow figures that uke is so traumatized & been letting ML baby the him, ML said/jokes “let me sleep in the bed with you, it’ll make you feel better, you will sleep better blah blah, this is like therapy” & uke is just like “yeah, this is therapy, again, you’re the older smart man, I trust your judgement and you’re right, I probably do need help sleeping” they get into bed together. ML immediately then says “wanna know what’s going to really help you sleep and clear your mind and help you deal with your trauma?” And then it gets sexual.
To me this just seemed predatory and weird, like…I thought he was a green flag? You know this kid is way younger than you, you know he just had a panic attack, has really bad trauma, you know he’s now looking up to you as a mature, trustworthy adult, he nearly reverted to a kid, uke said in his head he felt he was 16 all over again, refers to himself like a lost child, but anyways, ML knows uke is clearly struggling, & being a big baby all in front of him. ML even goes to say “I know you’re not normally like this, if it wasn’t for the trauma you’d never be like this, you’re a very well put together young man normally, this is just a bad day” ok so you know the uke is really in a bad state of mind right now, & that’s…sexy to you? Makes you wanna jump his bones? Idk it’s weird IMO.
This is what I felt reading the book so far, some of yall may interpret it differently. I wanna believe this might be a “let them cook, trust the process” kind of deal but idk… This “green flag” just turned red for me real fast lol.
This is the best straight manhwa I’ve ever read. But not just straight, one of the best I’ve read of all time, 2nd only to Mo Dao Zu Shi. All of the 30+ husband’s love and generosity, all their pros, cons, special little quirks and whatnots, really remind me of Lan Wangji’s free and all encompassing love for Wei Wuxian. I just love truly good fictional men. Like they’re fictional men, why do they have to be crappy? If you must make a fictional man, or men, they should really be the best of the best, that’s probably why this reminds me of my good boys Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian.
In my opinion, I hate how this story was only able to progress, from start to finish because the ML is such a well rounded person. They only have problems when the MC is being dumb & not communicating, and the problems is only fixed because the ML can somehow read his mind
And I’m sick of it in the main story, I mean I guess it works for the tension and whatnot, whatever…but even then, I’m still pissed it took ML’s mom dying for them to get together, but only because the ML was vulnerable & they had to be together for the plot so they were. It didn’t even feel resolved.
but in these side stories when it’s implied they’ve been together for “years” and the MC has supposedly “grown so much”?
Mc so stressed, missing the ML, so in love with the ML, everything he wants is to do with the ML….then why after all this time he never considered moving in. Never considered moving to the states together, never considered being the bigger person for ML. Always just the ML figuring it out and making it out. This isn’t a bad story or a mad match up, but idk, they do seem mismatched and like, I just don’t know why the MC can’t actually be wiser, more mature and DO something good for the ML finally.
Sorry for the rant. Idk, side stories are supposed to be happy and nice I thought and show a different side of the characters. But it just looks like I’m seeing the same old thing from the main story 80+ chapters and it’s just irritating. Thank goodness the ML is such a good guy and has mind reading powers, otherwise this story would never work.
Why does he trust Henry’s head so much, but not his heart? If he’s so hell bent on finding out whether Henry loves him or not more than his flings, wouldn’t the obvious answer be heart? He takes care of him so well, doesn’t do anything bad like the other 2, always being good to him, and he tells him straight up that it’s Henry’s love for him, it’s Henry’s heart, like ??? What more does he want?
I’m sorry, but the uke literally deserved what the seme did to him. The uke was already warned not to mess with him this whole time by his father, servants, and the shaman. He’s treated the seme badly this whole time
Also, he was trying to get the seme R worded, it’s just that he seme pulled the UNO-Reverse.
If the uke only treated him badly then uke doesn’t deserve it , but no, uke wanted to ruin the seme, have him SA -ed, and then unalived. So yeah…he deserved it.
Let them be wretched together.
I think the author meant to make it short and sweet so this is what happened. Tbh, I really like it and I think it’s a great short story. Of course I have read better but this is still good and I don’t consider it bad at all.
I know people don’t feel resolved because there wasn’t as much groveling, their love was fast, we don’t get closure in that side villain coworker, or the grandpa or the “uncle-ex husband” but tbh, it’s also realistic because….why would you be in contact with people like that? A grandpa who admits he doesn’t truly care about his own grandkid and a selfish, abusive uncle who stresses out both parents?
I really love how the MC stood up for himself and established himself as the parent and told the grandpa if he was such a better parent, then why are his sons the way they are, pot meet kettle. I really love that and you don’t see that often.
And then, I really love how the couple communicates with each other and they keep their promises, they don’t get swayed by others even if the other person may be right, both of them said “we promised to believe in each other, we already made a deal with each other so for good or bad, others are irrelevant” and that’s how it should be, because if not then The ML should’ve never pursued MC again, and MC should’ve kept hiding. But because they weren’t willing to back down and don’t want to regret, they stood firm together.
If I were her, I would tell the brother everything so that he stops relying on ex boyfriend and thinking ex boyfriend is a good guy. Plus the ex bf used her own brother against her, and probably will keep doing it. I hate this be the martyr trope…she’s frustrated with it, she hasn’t done anything wrong, but she’s the only one suffering and in pain.
The brother is already finding out about her secret of dating a playboy and being kicked out of the dorms, what’s there left to hide? At least tell the brother everything else so that he can fully be on her side and support her…there’s no way he hasn’t heard the rumors/or isn’t going to hear about it.
As someone who has siblings, IDC, that’s my sibling, no one will hurt, manipulate or abuse them in any way, shape or form in front of me, even if my sibling is in the wrong. But she’s clearly not in the wrong.
For the book to portray this crappy situation of the brother loving the crap ex, but hating the new/good/fake bf, I think is weird…especially when it shows that they obviously love and care for eachother as siblings/have a good relationship.
This is so frustrating for me to read, I hope it gets resolved in a good way.
I hope the author makes them properly communicate about this whole thing once and for all.
I hope it gets addressed that the MC is a hypocrite. He can’t blame the ML for going through it all by himself when the reason they’re “split” now is because the MC chose to do what he did “all by himself”
And also, I’ve BEEN waiting for that sleazy, ex-intern to get his just desserts.
The character of FL is so inconsistent. She’s an adult who read the story and knows everything, who transmigrated into the FL’s body, but she acts like a real child…until all of a sudden, she knows how to manipulate the Duke, and the maid and now she’s making an elaborate plan to expose the teacher???
So she’s a child when convenient but also a transmigrate adult when convenient….
I really hate adults turning into children, as if children aren’t already smart and capable of complex thoughts and emotions on their own.
At least stick to one or the other…so many stories of adults turning into kids and it’s written well where we know the adult in kid’s body is using their adult knowledge to their advantage…but this story just does it so…shabby that it doesn’t make sense or matter that she’s an adult who turned into a kid.
If she was just a poor orphan who had to grow up fast, then this would all tie together better, but no, had to be an adult that turns into a kid…which isn’t even necessary.
I’m disappointed he knew the other two were bullying ML, but it seems ML is only reprimanded. ML shouldn’t have gotten the axe; but the other two should seriously be talked to about bullying, respect and open mindedness. Like, even if something is wrong with ML, the point is, no one will treat you nice if you don’t treat them nice.
So I think; whether ML is normal or not, if they’re mean to him first, what he does in retaliation is just a consequence. All the parenting tips are good, but the number 1 rule for anyone and everyone regardless of age and role/status in life is “treat others how you want to be treated”.
I really don’t like like ML was the only one lectured…it’s like, yeah, you don’t want him to become a villain, but you’re actually not helping him either. Number 1 reason why people become villains is because others were mean to them or they didn’t get justice. So if people are mean to him = he become a villain, so stop people being mean all around, and be fair in judgement and justice. Maybe you won’t have a villain…
But I guess it’s for plot, otherwise how else would we get a black belly, yandere, young shizunf**ker story….