Mochitufo's Topics (9)

well im guessing they were just thinking “whats the most fucked up thing a fucked up person could do to another” and ig they got this its so disgusting…

I think it’s S&M. In this case M being the submissive partner.

technically M simply means masochistic, not submissive. it's a common misconception.

Exactlyyyy you can still be masochistic but also be dominant, same as how a person can be submissive but sadistic.

I’m aware. That’s why I said “in this case” lol

But you said "I think" and its not really "in this case" if submissive is entirely a diff word...

I can see where the confusion stems from. I’ll be clearer going forward.

No u were clear enough , anybody with reading comprehension can put two and two together

lmao unfortunately there are people out there who takes everything at face value and would equate masochism == bottom bc someone said so. it happened before and it'll keep happening in the future so I'd appreciate it people would give more definite answers. in any case, even Ren's first reply to OP felt like they also misunderstood bottoming == masochism, so maybe you both are on a different wavelength then where others are ar

No you knew what the person meant you just wanted to put your two cents in

No, I did not. That's why I said what I said. Because I'm perfectly aware there are people who do think that submissive == masochist and sometimes also == bottom, they're on twitter TikTok and tumblr, literally seen too many people like that. Since you like to assume you're probably mad because you didn't know and wanted to save face

Omg can u stop??? This is so childish.

Well I got time to respond to since elon ruined twitter again unfortunately, and I'm not the one to dig this up when the convo was already done ¯_(ツ)_/¯

It’s obvious you got time if you cherry picking at what og comment said, you’re the first person i done went back and forth with on this site

You're the one digging up the thread lmao
I don't know why you're so insistent I cherry picked the first answer when you're the one doing it. So easy to see the people I mention from people who get into yaoi but aren't old enough to drink or drive, then go around asking their same aged friends what does bdsm mean or look it up on tiktok bc kids can't use google these days. I'm assuming you're the same age as you don't seem to know.

Here you go assuming , yes ik what bdsm mean js cz u seen some ppl not know what the word means don’t mean i don’t know and this whole conversation is stemming from you cherry picking , how am i the one doing that? All i said and you know for a fact you knew what the og commenter meant and for ppl that don’t know they can easily do a search cz if u can be on this site you can search up what that means

you're picking a fight with me on what YOU assume are my intentions when I'm telling you that's NOT my intention. YOU'RE cherry picking MY words and twisting it to what you want to mean. "Here you go assuming" pot kettle. "for the ppl that don't know they can easily search" then why did OP even have to ask what M means lol. YOU'RE deliberately dragging this fight because you build me up as some villain going around correcting people when I just happened to pass by and added to the original answer. I didn't even say anything mean about the first answerer and didn't have bad intentions ADDING to the first answer. yet you're here defending their honor, what, do you know them irl or something?

oh and miss me with the "you can easily do a search cuz if you can be on this site you can google", kids these days get mad over fujoshis and think it means fetishizer when it's far from it, or think it's a bad word just bc it literally translates to rotten girl. all because their tiktok friends says that's what they mean so yeah idk about you ¯_(ツ)_/¯

If it really bothered you, you could've just ignored their comment. Don't answer me if you don't feel like it, I'm not trying to start anything. Just saying

Dw, you're cool. Yah, I get what you mean and if they were genuinely a troll I would ignore. But I have met these kind of people in other forums/comments section, they would pick a fight with everyone they slightly disagree with and unfortunately for everyone else I can't yap on twitter anymore because of the new update (sigh)

Stop tryna be the victim i see through you. And you are my enemy and the villain. You’re my villain

LMAO okay ig you're really a troll than someone who's convinced they're right and must tell everyone else or god forbid the world end or something. you should go on mdex forums, people will love you there

Shut up bro, you're pmo now too

Random btw

Stop self projecting

Stop self projecting

Stop dragging it omd

Mind u youre the one continuing to interact if you wanted it to end js stop replying

No u

You are LIT replying to everything. Just stfu

Okay but you’re the one complaining idkidk make it make sense

Make it make sense? You're dragging it, and I am telling you to stop. How else do you want me to tell you to shut up?

I alr told you how to make me stop u js need to stop replying, you obv still want this to go on since you keep replying masochist

"Masochist" HAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHSH

So I’m right

Oh right, I can feel pain through a screen! And I am also humiliation myself THROUGH a SCREEN

That’s just your character

LMAO YOU'RE SERIOUSLY DRAGGING IT

No , we are

Well, historically this is what the rich and wealthy do.

Royalty was into incest and modern times they arrange marriages with rich and powerful families.

honestly it makes sense that this scenario happened not gonna lie. I'm not saying that I support incest but just like the other reply said, incest was common in wealthy families and the brother's attraction was definitely an issue from the start that getting beat up for it wasn't enough for him to lose his feelings (and it wouldn't make sense if he did because the author is trying to prove that his family was extremely toxic that he felt romantic attraction to his only saviour cause the family setting made him believe that it's normal to feel that way)

everhone making think pieces but honestly manhua authors just really like incest.

DNA tests are revealing how prevalent incest really is.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/

hmm, there is a Chinese YouTuber who explained this "incest" type trope among Chinese media. Alongside the Tale of Genshi, earliest Japanese literature within a romantic setting, which also depicted incest favorably. https://youtu.be/mE_MH2NetJI As for other Asian works, I'm not sure as I'm ignorant on their viewpoints/culture/why the tendency on this trope besides the "royalty only wanting the money within the family".

Well, the fall of the Roman Empire and the entire WWI is because of incestuous relationships within the descendants of Queen Victoria and genetic blood diseases.

So...and lot of it is just historical contamination of old ideas of romantic tales of love between cousins and such?

(?), isn't the focus here on why such trope is so common within Asian media in the modern era (specifically East Asia*)? The West has been riddled with incest in their history with political/royal matters. Currently (as the Chinese Youtuber said), there are many Chinese dramas coming up that do not see an issue within the "step-brothers" type incest + a romantic setting and its targeted audience do not see much of an issue. Furthermore, Chinese dramas have to go through their Chinese Media government with prior approval if wanting to broadcast them to the public. Looks like the approval for incest type dramas does not raise an eyebrow but lgbtq+ media does.

Meanwhile, majority Western works would not depict that incest favorably or "pure loving innocent romance" (GOT Targaryens) neither would their western audience. *Again, info from the Chinese Youtuber, Korean dramas do not go for the trope of "step-bro/sis incest" as their Korean audience does not like such (though, of course, it gives a contradiction as their manwhas are showcasing it hence the discussion here, sooooooo...idk man, even I'm getting a headache trynna find the why).

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Good. Don't come back (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*.✧

They both are wrong. We can’t just act as if the MC is the only victim here when he treated the ML as a walking bag of cum knowing full well the ML likes him. I’m not defending the ML since he also shouldn’t have poured his pheromones onto the MC without his consent, but MC also did his mistakes. They need to have a conversation and apologise to one another

Could not agree more, it’s literally two hot messes fucking around and finding out… I’m reeeeeally hoping they communicate and turn this into a healthy relationship

I really love this manhwa! No reincarnation or regression. Pure emotions only!!!

You know, that they are not related...?!

Wolf still raised Potato like his own child. He raised him since he was a small child that couldn't speak. It's basically saying that it's okay for any adopted parents to become their adopted children's lover. That shit is creepy.

Yeah? Other than not liking (more like hating) the trope where someone ends up with a person they raised- I’ve loved their relationship as it was from the beginning… So why ruin the original idea with this weird stuff?

How much and what kind of BL do you read to get hooked on it? There's nothing special about it... ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

It's just fan service... Skip these parts if you're not interested, they're marked... ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I read a variety of BLs but ones where the character raised another since a child to eventually become lovers will always be creepy. Trying to normalize parent/child to lovers doesn't make it special, it's weird as hell and people trying to justify it is even weirder.