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“Double standards” bro he raped her and she wasn’t with him willingly. You really out here pulling a “no one cared when she cheated on her RAPIST”.

Wtf are going on about?? Are you actually stupid for you to not realize the point here? I’m SPECIFICALLY talking about the people who literally cared more about cheating than that and those that didn’t give af about her own cheating then.

Not a fucking word was mentioned about the rape part. You’re literally purposefully missing the point. Why don’t you go talk to those that cared more of the potential of him cheating than rape? The double standards was only meant for the cheating part. Don’t act dumb when you should know damn well what I meant. Unless you’re one of those people rn now mad over a fucking dream of him potentially cheating, then I have nothing to say for your own mentality.

I would also like to say that she was seeing her lover, before, during, and after their marriage. So she was cheating before the rape happened as well. She is a victim however she also aint stupid and you wanted to make excuses for her cheating because of that. “She wasn’t with him willingly” is so idiotic and definitely shows your mindset of how you think any arranged marriages or relationships should let their partner cheat if they’re not with them willingly. If that’s not how you think, then I guess you know how it feels to assume and overthink like you just did.

You specifically mentioned people only caring that he possibly cheated and not that she “cheated” with the ex-fiancé. I think you need to calm down kid because you’re not making any sense. The “double standard” you mentioned was people only caring if he cheated and not if she did… but bro no one cared that she “cheated” bc ml is a rapist who forced her to be with him. Idk if this is news to you, but you can’t cheat on a rapist. The two situations you’re calling a double standard are in no way comparable.

“Arranged marriage” bro at that point she was lead to believe he killed her family and used the chaos of the situation to force a marriage through and take everything away from her. This wasn’t just an “arranged marriage” are you even reading the story or is your superior intellect incapable of understanding context?

Honey are you everyone? Do you actually think your mind is how everyone else’s works and you speak for everyone? There were genuine people who literally didn’t give af about the rape. Please stay on the fucking topic I originally said about CHEATING and cheating alone. If you bothered to read I also mentioned the ML being a bad guy in my original comment but you failed to see that. Which literally means I’m talking on the specific part of cheating. The double standards exist solely on the cheating part and this is also referring to other stories I’ve seen this crap on even green flag MLs. This comment was directed towards those that do like the ML, didn’t care about the rape, and hate him specifically for thinking he cheated.

This obviously wasn’t for you, who clearly hates him for rape regardless.

“If you’re married to someone against your will and they repeatedly rape you, you should still respect the sanctity of that marriage” what are you smoking to get these kinds of morals

I honestly believe that you are continuously making excuses for her that you can’t even acknowledge a single wrong thing. Turns out she was wrong about him killing her family, now what? Just makes her more embarrassed that she now knows she was cheating with her family’s actual killer and cheating on a man who she hated without knowing the truth.

Again, you can’t cheat on a rapist so what she was doing was in fact, not cheating. There is no double standard.

Mf are you actually brain dead??? Do you purposefully see what you only want to see. I very clearly spelled out for you that she was cheating BEFORE the rape as well. But you found an excuse for that. Why are you so hell-bent on trying to make me look evil when you are trying SO HARD to miss the point in order for you to have a better argument. If you’re not gonna bother reading or understanding then why tf are you even here? To have a one-sided argument and only talk about what you want?

You say whatever you want, that’s cool that is your way of thinking- but for many others cheating is just cheating. You like to change the definition of the word to suit whatever excuses you have for it. That’s not how it works either.

Anyways kindly hop off the rape because this discussion was not about that. I specifically targeted a group of certain people who did not care about the rape and more of the possibility of him cheating, but for whatever you reason you keep missing that so I guess maybe you felt personally attacked and it applied to you?? Not once was my original comment for that and you wanted to twist my words to make it look like that to better your argument. If you don’t know how to have a debate or argument with someone, the obvious thing is to not involve shit that was never said.

Bro she never agreed to be in a relationship, this wasn’t even arranged by the family. There was no cheating by her, she broke no trust. “Cheated before the rape” bro she did not marry him willingly, this was never a consensual relationship. There cannot be cheating if there is no relationship. Oh so “she emotionally cheated AFTER he killed her family, but before the rape, so that makes her a cheater” I mean. Where is your logic? You cannot cheat in a relationship you did not agree to be in. There is still no double standard.

You tried to pull some 1000iq bs on how only you saw past the “double standard” and understood the chapter. Because you’re such a big brain elite. But that doesn’t work because with every new defense you make it’s clear you don’t understand context or nuance in stories.

You can keep thinking that but that logic is flawed. The difference between your mindset and mine is that I can see situations like a husband abusing his wife as a cause for the wife seeing another man, and I get why she would cheat. I UNDERSTAND and don’t hate her for it. But I still acknowledge by definition for the word, what she did is cheating. I never said I hated her for it or am mad that she did, I just ACKNOWLEDGE she did the action.

That’s what you’re just not getting. You seem to be aggressively misunderstanding that I’m hating on her when it’s actually me acknowledging the characters actions. You are the one, changing the definition of a word to suit situations you want. No matter what you say, all your reasonings are based on your own morals and beliefs, none of which are factual or based on the actual definition of the word. You’re here finding every excuse out there in order to not make it cheating. When you can just easily acknowledge that by DEFINITION it is, while also understanding why and agreeing with her.

Anyways I don’t even care that she was seeing another man, I only am arguing with you now because you insist that a word shouldn’t be used for a situation you wanna believe is justified. I’m having an issue with your logic, not her.

The husband and wife you mentioned married willingly. If you threaten someone into marriage you are not in a consenting relationship. Locking someone up and saying “we’re married now” does not a relationship make. She did not cheat because she did not agree to be in a relationship in the first place. There were no vows to break. Saying her still being in love with the ex-fiancé, after essentially being kidnapped and unwillingly married to someone would be comparable to the ML sleeping with another woman after confessing his love and desire to be married are two very different things. The people who do not bring up her old affection for the ex-fiancé or compare it to the current ML possibly sleeping with another woman are not dumb, because those two situations are not comparable. She did not cheat because she was never with him willingly in the beginning. It was always under threat and coercion. She was not in a consenting relationship with him when she still loved the ex-fiancé, that means she did not cheat. You cannot cheat in a non-existing relationship.

You’re literally copying and pasting what you already said. I don’t agree with that logic. Simple as that. Until you decide to actually read and understand my comments, this conversation is worthless. It seems you seriously want to have a one-sided discussion only saying what you want and not bothering to understand the other person’s points. You’re stubbornly relating yourself with your own beliefs THAT ARE NOT FACTUAL. Those are subjective beliefs. Until you reread and bother to care for understanding points, this will be my last comment. Don’t even try to say the same copy paste crap I already said I don’t agree with. You changing that crap does nothing.

Bro so you think a relationship isn’t between two consenting adults, but between a kidnapper and kidnapped? You just want to apply the term cheating to pat yourself on the back with the double standard comment. What I understand from your comment is if someone is forced to marry at threat of death and having everything taken from them, it’s still a real relationship? No matter the context, if you are unconscious and someone forces through a marriage certificate without your knowledge or consent, that you immediately try to get out of… it’s still a “real” romantic relationship where cheating is possible?

Definition of cheating since you’re so hung up on it: “when a person in a monogamous romantic relationship has an emotional or sexual relationship with someone else without their partner's consent.” She was never in a monogamous romantic relationship with him, ever. She never consented to a relationship, so there was no relationship. There is no romantic relationship without consent. So no cheating occurred. I do not understand what you’re not getting. Unless you think it’s possible to be in a romantic relationship with someone… that didn’t consent to be in one.

I think the context is more medieval where a woman is married off and the couple have to consumate the marriage otherwise it can not be recognized. Of course it was wrong but it is still common in these type of webtoons, more so when it is inspired by like a Tudor dynasty kinda thing. This also means that even though she didn't want the marriage she would have little say and her being with that other guy was technically cheating, but she also couldn't help herself because of the love potion so the whole thing is a gray area. I still think that the whole beginning was very weirdly written with the whole marriage being done with her literally unconscious. Super confusing but I was curious how the author would redeem it, also the only reason why I am still reading this. I don't really hate the MC tho, as it is common and usually used as a redemtion thing and as long as you can differ between reality and fiction I don't see it as a big deal. Plus I think that the main point of the original comment was also mostly pointed to those who couldn't understand that him being with that other woman was a dream and were condemming him for cheating even tho he didn't do that, which I found annoying myself.
English is not my native language so I apologize for any mistakes, but I was also just very annoyed that people couldn't understand that the whole him cheating was a freaking dream so I really wanted to respond lol

Waitt, on what chapter does the manhwa shows her bro sleeping around?

Literally THAN YOU I’m tired of all these people who can’t think critically

Literally THANk YOU I’m tired of all these people who can’t think critically