nah i was loving it until he started flip flopping between the two i was gen so fucking lost plus the background plot there were so many unexplained holes why make it seem like comedy with a dark subplot to not actually expand into it omg… i did love the comedy though but lord the writing was some hot hot shit all over the place
and like why could i literally not actually determine what he feelings were at all and I genuinely did not like Ordin, fenrir for life that past life stuff was geniunely pulled out of the ass i swear the author was trying to go for making him a villain second male lead (first flashback) then changed their FUCKING MIND OH MY LORD
and the ending was jus so so rushed like there was no build up and it felt like the author got tired of the serious subplot and just smacked all the lore (with a million missing info bits) in the span of three chapters and then did the shit with fenrir’s ending I GUESS BC THE AUTHOR DECIDED AFTER FLIP FLOPPING THAT ORDIN WAS GONNA BE ENDGAME FUCK TBH AT THE BEGINNING I WAS LIKE YO I WOULDNT MIND ORDIN BEING ENDGAME THE STUFF WITH CHILDHOOD LOVE IS CUTE PLUS SEEMS LIKE THERES SOME PAST LIFE STUFF
then the past life stuff was geniunely outragoues like are we fr, he wakes up from being a child to being an adult, sits on the dudes face and literally gets violated by him (story’s words not mine) which makes him into a sex addict with attachment issues, which fenrir awakens him from and makes him realize stuff, BUT I SWEAR THE AUTHOR HERE CHANGES THEIR MIND AND GOES OH NAH BUT HE LOVES ORDIN SO MUCH LIKE ALL OF THIS IS HIS FAULT FOR MEETING ORDIN LIKE BABE
IMO IM SEEING THIS AS LIKE AKIN TO STOCKHOLM SYNDROME KINDA LOVE BUT ABSO NO DYNAMIC OR PLOT WRITTEN TO IT.
LIKE CMON IF YOU WANTED ORDIN TO BE THE ENDGAME WRITE THAT PAST LIFE SHIT MYCH BETTER OTHERWISE MAKE IT MY BEST BOY FENRIR
read this shi for three hours straight to have it be a goddamn mess with like no ending satisfaction (though during early-mid i was very very satisfied and intrigued this geniunely had rlly good potential even if Ordin was endgame, ik i seem bias to Fenrir)
Honestly I get why it’s frustrating but I also find it strange we get so mad over things that just… make us human?
We assume, we act irrational, we make mistakes, we are stubborn and resilient—it’s what makes us human. So yes, it is annoying the ML love-bombed, it is annoying the MC & ML doesn’t communicate but it is things we all do by accident or immaturity. Yeah they’re adults but the brain fully develops at 25, and they’re still undergrads. Why do we expect every person to have to be perfect, that would remove what makes it so akin to normal life.
I think we all get mad because we don’t fully realize we do that in our lives, or that people around us create problems over little or big things all the time.
Honestly, to give so much attention and love, in obvious way, uncommon to himself to be asked to his face by the very one he loves to remain friends, and that he would help him find his true love? That would be painful to anyone, especially a man like ML who usually doesn’t act like this for someone. Things like this happen all the time in friendships/situationships
Now I’m not saying that it’s wrong to be mad or frustrated, or that how impatient and love-bombing the ML was, isn’t something he is guilty of, I just hope we can try to understand characters at a human level rather than an omnipresent level. I just find it strange so many people dog on miscommunication, stubbornness, or poor decision-making, when I am very sure we have all done such a thing in our lives. We are not perfect, and a perfect character who makes perfect decisions has no depth or value to them.
what the flippity fuckity fuck was this
man I know the author can do better than this they wrote eternal covenant and sweet man A ffs
DinDin I love you please dont leave us here with Kaizen Mythtoon and Desire…
TELL ME WHOEVERS HARASSING YOU ILL FIGHT THEM UP FOR YOU
why the flying fuck does every new manhwa now have 3 uploads of the same chapter.
Fuck you guys. You upload AI translations the least you could do is not be a goddamn bitch and coordinate. And the way you take over actual translators… You ruin the manhwa transation community. (obviously alongside DMCAs, but goes to show you’re just as bad as them)
You really think having three chapter uploads will make anyone any more incentified to pay for your bullshit? Maybe if you weren’t so goddamn annoying people would. Now I bet people just sigh when they see you, because they know two others are coming.
And seriously, mangago should start implementing rules against this… No duplicate chapters unless it is an official…
Because after officials come out we’ll have FOUR versions of the same goddamn chapter.
Isn’t it literally a rule to not upload low quality translations? Because sometimes it’s freaking horrible and incomprehensible to read
It IS a rule
Not uploading low quality translations
but mangago is not enforcing it apparently
mangago cmon
I rlly hope they change the post-abyss plot… Because seriously in the novel it started to become a slog that didn’t focus on what actually mattered…
I do love me a revenge but to spend 40 chapters on actual goddamn fodder who don’t contribute to the overarching plot of the abyss was so annoying…
praying author changes it because so much was filler and pointless.
Honestly, (spoilers ahead)
Everything they leave the abyss starts to lose its meaning. The stakes and the dire situation written so well in the abyss is just totally brushed aside, there is no trauma to face, and we start to get less and less dyanmics of the main gang, instead so much writing on Park Seungmin and Go Jaewon that gave no insight or real satisfaction (as it had been dragged on for too long)
and finally when they returned to the Abyss plot, so much was just… not there???
Like so many plot points from when they were in the Abyss were not address or chalked up to be something so simple. Like are we being fr that Hyunmook’s negative trait is “To never give up” and it was quite obvious there was more to it? Or the foreshadowing about how he is very irregular and why despite every other member turning more non human, he stayed human-like, yet at heart was the least human of them all? WERE JUST GOING TO MOVE ON FROM THIS WITHOUT TRULY ADRESSING IT?
When finally going back to the Abyss plot, what made the novel so amazing was not there. I wasn’t tense at all, I no longer felt such a deep attachment to the characters (that’s what happens when you focus on fodder) and there was little character development to be made. It felt so cheap compared to the quality presented in the abyss, how descriptive and terrifying things felt, the anguish the members would feel, and the hopes of conquering the Abyss.
God I loved this from when they were in the abyss but I was so disappointed at the deterioration of the writing once they escape (Which btw, was done by a fluke and had many unadressed things that I was so sure was going to be readressed, until we started focusing on human fodder instead of the thing the novel initally portrays to be the big bag, the Abyss) there’s so much shit i haven’t even mentioned like the Black mountain and world of the Abyss… Such good worldbuilding for it to go to waste.
ok done ranting I applaud you if you’ve read this all.
I can only hope the manhwa excutes the novel better. because god if we spend 40 chatpers on fucking Park Seungmin, I know everyones gonna start hating. (I still love this novel at heart)
like cmon the title is “follow the sheep jnto the ABYSS” not follow the sheep into EARTH POLITICS AND IDIOTIC GOVERNMENTS
i think the part where hyunmook struggles to be back on earth after they got out bc he believes he's no longer human- he hollowed himself out trying to keep his team alive in the abyss pretty compelling ngl. i didnt hate it that much bc i looked forward to the revenge arc, the people who made them enter the abyss deserved to suffer and it was fun to read how they set everything up for these people to get their just desserts (not disagreeing, just a diff opinion about the post-abyss stuff)
no its not that I hated the revenge its I hated how it was executed. Novel spent way too much time on characterizing the revenge fodder and the actual revenge was unsatisfying for the amount of chapters it took. Because we spent so much time bringing them up and hyping up the “fall” and that “fall” wasn’t even close to being enough to justify the chapters it took. I’d rather have more chapters focusing on the gang’s dynamic together and settle the revenge quick and sweetly, as they did for the one fodder character group (Not PSM or GJW)
also about the hyunmook struggling back on earth thats what I wanted to see but I barely saw it at all? He really doesn’t struggle, he does perfectly fine. and there’s barely any depiction of trauma from the abyss for all of them. (Note: there is, just not enough to show significance) In fact I did not see much of the “hollowed out” self you speak off because there wasn’t many chapters entirely dedicated to the team, and the few chapters solely dedicated to our main characters were sex scenes that didn’t show any of that characterization or struggles.
Also Seungryong legit just vanishes from the plot until they finally after 55 chapters go to face the Flood thats invaded earth/Great rift. Done my boy dirty. Also wish the author actually used his and Yakrin’s banter dynamic, once they exited the abyss they didn’t interact once. Stuff like this is what I’m complaining about, so much dialogue building of a revenge that was rather lackluster, over focusing on these characters and dyanmics.
yo sorry for the rlly long message,
tldr: Revenge had no need to take 50 chapters to finish, was lackluster compared to the one that took 2 chapters, spend that time on characterization & Sunrise team dynamics instead
why do we have a new additon of desire scans… holy shit
kaizan, mythtoons. desire or whoever the fuck wants to join in
make a fucking group chat and coordinate this bullshit no one is getting any more paid than the other with this fuckery
why are there so many and for how many chapters have they just been all strewn all over the floor like that i cant lnfhafafafsfw
jujucat save us
in jujucat we trust
in jujucat we believe
jujucat will save us
jujucat must come for us
jujucat please
save our poor souls
and this beautiful manhwa
jujucat i need you
jujucat WE need you
jujucat come save us
jujucat jujucat jujucat
anyways this shi peak asf