looniemoonie's Topics (40)

exactly my thoughts

sexism

If I’m remembering correctly, wasn’t it alluded that the older brother wanted minjae to harm him? But obviously the younger brother doesn’t know because it’s been a secret this whole time. Or did I have a fever dream and make that up?

Tbh I don't remember, but I wouldn't put it past him. That hyung would probably have done it in order to control whatever narrative he wants to keep

The point is that you need to establish a real ass to then have the conflict and then the resolution. That's usually how story telling goes.

But he doesn't feel like an actual character, but porn parody villain. Like the alpha is the there only to fuck the omega. Same for the omega, TBH.

I mean only if you can't come up with a real story, yes you'll go dow the most generic route, however even then it should have some substance. But this is genuine shit.

Mold is crazy ☠

You can dislike him and the story, I'm just saying that it is the set up. Very classic one, like in most romance stories where the bad man realizes his mistakes. You know the drill.

I've read a lot of yaoi manwhas and mangas and it is nowhere near as bad as it can be, trust me. The rating itself is a proof of that. Now, you can dislike it which I support, but then, why would you read a story that bring you so much unhappiness?

Why do you assume that this story doesn't bring me happiness just because I don't really like the characters? I find it so bad it's honestly passing to the funny category and I enjoy reading this kind of things, because of unintentional hilarity.
There's whole category of art for this sort of things.

So hate reading it is. Whatever floats your boat then.

Why hate reading? Why are you flattening my experiences in such an ugly way? I don't hate this story, I don't have bad consuming feelings about those story, I find it badly written which makes it good. It's quintessential kitsch. Yet here you are judging how other people interact with art and what they take out of it and tell them if they don't do it your approved way they shouldn't at all. Such reductive approach to complicated stuff.

Judging? That is a harsh word. You do you king, enjoy the story however you want. I literally didn't say anything about approval, you're assuming.

Saying that person reads something that brings them unhappiness is an assumption, because you have no idea if this is in fact bringing any person unhappiness. Saying somebody is hate reading is a judgment, because it is never used as a positive thing.
Your assumption is that people not liking character/plot but still reading it have no enjoyment out of it.
I could reverse it and say 'I have no idea why people engage with comments of people who don't like the work of art if those comms make them unhappy'. The idea that readers should engage and comment on works they only 100 % like or stand for and only with happy feelings is standing contradictory to the idea of engaging with art.

The Cambridge definition of hate reading: "to read a book, article, blog, etc. that you dislike or think is very bad, because you enjoy laughing at it or criticizing it" you don't have to hate a thing to enjoy reading it but it literally is hate reading. You don't have to like the word because it has negative conotations and while I don't enjoy hate reading and think it's a waste of time, whoever decides to do that has the right to spend their time that way.
Also questioning and not understanding why someone does something negative is valid, be it commenting or hate reading. You just feel called out and mad at me for it and trying to show that I'm wrong.

One question, why are you assuming that the answer I gave to looniemoonie is to you? Either you can't read or you own two accounts so you are samefagging here.

Yeah. That but wasn't even addressed to them.

Depends on the culture. Asian moms are usually like that with their sons. They dote on them.

No you’re right, but the other commenter also is. The mother seems toxic and shallow

I mean yeah different cultures sure, however this is less the dotting and more on the how she behaves. Like in the last chapter she appears she is holding both her sons hands and the daughter just stands to the side. I feel like this hlgors beyond the "how asian moms are with theirs son" but thats just how i view it tho. And i do believe this type of parenting from her contributs to his extremely childish behaviour. Like while funny, sir you are in your 30, please behave.

To give another context, the FL's brothers are also quite childish. Sure, they are not 30 but they are quite old enough. If I'm not mistaken, they are already in college.

Yes, but i believe there is a difference between the type of childish playfulness the brothers have and the immaturity Iseop has. And the difference comes from the way their parents raised them. Even if the twins's mom dotes on her sons, the weird emotional relationship is not as prevalent. It comes across as more appropriate between mother and sons.

If anything, his mother's affection is what saved him from going insane from his father’s pressure. Their mother and son dynamic would only be a concern if the mom ends up not liking FL and he can’t stand up for her. Coming from that type of family, such dynamics aren’t that much of a concern until there’s finally a woman coming in between them, aka wife/gf. Then you’d see the actual problem.

I agree with you regarding how it’s mostly a problem when a woman comes in. I definitely foresee difficulty for FL. I feel like this entire family is so toxic to her already, I wouldn’t want to be in her shoes.

Yeah most definitely, she’s weird. I can already foresee her making FL’s life miserable, I hope not though. I get really bad vibes from Lee Seop’s family and the way he acts sometimes is not it. I feel bad for FL.

Indeed the father is ultimately to blame for the skewed relationship between them. However, regardless of her liking or not the FL, they do not appear to have what i would find to be a more healthy and normal mother-son relationship . But that is just my opinion.

In an ideal world they would both go to therapy and work on fixing the issues: unhappy and unfulfilled marriage/life and the repercussions for her, and all the pressure put on him and all of hix anxieties. But then again this is a manhwa and we do have to turn of our brain for a bit.

Let's see. Didn't read raws so I have no idea. The mother's quip about marrying someone 'useful' stems from Jeon Seob (?) being the son of her sister in law. Can't judge YET if she would be the same if FL would be introduced as the gf. Mom likes her, generally, as a reliable secretary but I know that might change if as gf. My guess rather betting, is that she'll like FL. The genuinely toxic one in the family is the grandfather and father, whose we haven't met yet. Seems that they are set up to he the real antagonists for the MCs.

Actually, even irl, in Asia, going to therapy is a stretch. I'm not rich so idk but therapy is not a thing in Asia, prolly even more in East Asia. Because if it's common and effective, there wouldn't be a lot of suicide cases there.

Yeah definitely can’t tell rn. But, I feel like the mom is fake nice to FL and once Lee Seop shows an ounce of romantic interest in her, the mom’s gonna flip.

She’s nice to her because she’s useful. As long as she’s not a romantic interest she would be genuinely nice to her. But let’s see.