In chapter 17, the tattoo artist reminds me of something and I’m not sure if it happened. Didnt Phi and that tattoo artist sleep and had a threesome? Or was that in the raws? Or I confused this with another story?
Nah I swear I remember this. Fuck my shitty memory.
Phi and him didn’t sleep together. We’ve only seen a flashback of him in the earlier chapters of when he was talking about his tattoos
I swear I remember, I’m only 19, I can’t be having shitty memory right now. Maybe it’s in raws? Have you checked the raws out?
Yeah I reread the series several times. All the raws are translated (which is up to chapter 19.5). The author hasn’t put out a new chapter in over a year
I remember there was chapter 22 in raws?? Nah I gotta go to the doc and get myself checked. I believe you since you said you re read several times.
Nah 19 is the last chapter lool. I’ve been following the author for years. She is currently wrapping up her other manga and took a year off this one
Is there a 2nd Lead? Sorry I detest 2nd Leads, idc how nice there are, if I meet the first ML, I can’t think about anyone else for endgame.
Also when does 2nd lead show up?
I would’ve been fine if someone was a sex worker because they wanted to be and enjoyed the sex, but clearly Phi became one not by full choice, he was a fucking minor and got dragged into such situations. I feel horrible, no one should be in this industry to be honest, unless it’s an adult with full consent if it’s their last resort. And clearly right now Phi did the sex because of his feelings and not because he enjoys sex alone.
As for Apollo, he’s such a great dude. He is self aware of his thoughts and doesn’t assault or rape the bottom like most MLs do in BL.
We'll get to know more about phii and his feelings in more detail in later chapters, so saying he isn't by full-choice or whether he's not is too early tho I understand what you're trying to say.
It isn’t by his heart choice though, it’s clear he has trauma and he’s stuck to this place out of guilt too. So no he isn’t doing sex work because he enjoys it fully. Maybe he likes his companions/coworkers that make him feel at home but deep down there are unresolved trauma and reason he’s here. I don’t think a minor can consent to sex work.
Also what do you mean in later chapters? Have you read raws? I believe I did too but I don’t understand the language. Are you saying that Phi gave full choice to this lifestyle?
I think I’m kinda confusing lol but what I’m trying to say is that I don’t believe Phi wanted this lifestyle if it wasn’t for what he went through as a KID.
Also I think ik what you’re trying to say but there seems to be some confusion lol. I don’t mean that Phi didn’t choose to be in this paradise land, but rather that he’s not there because his heart wants to, but to escape his trauma or something. It’s because of his trauma that he ended up in this lifestyle, so it’s not exactly a choice in doing sex work.
Ah!! Yeah, now it's clear, there really was a confusion lol!!
how does a minor choose to do this work ?
He was 13 when he started having customers. In the real world people would say he was being groomed in the industry, or even sexually abused…. But in this story people are putting the full blame on him which is quite odd. Not sure how to feel about that. Sex work when you're 13??? They are basically a middle schooler, they are taken advantage of at that age.
No one is putting any blame on Phi and I've not seen anyone or any comment saying it's his fault in any way, I just misunderstood op comment, I wanted tell there's more to his story, that's all.
I forgot but is the bottom an experienced bottom or he’s only been top before?
The author said Brett not virgin, he has experience. We only know that, also I don’t think the author will go detail, we just know from his old profile that he use to date Beta girl, Brett is bisexual
Okay so I’ll just assume he’s most likely top in experience cause he didn’t seem used to bottom when I think top dude raped him or something
Well nothing confirmed so reader can think however their see fit. For me, i think he probably tried all the kinky thing to see what he into and not, like how he know he not into whip and leather suit, he also not into role-play (in korean version) and in English version is said he more into being bottom, and in Hayden’s second rut, he even prepared himself with plug. So yeah there no right answer.
Which chapter did he say he’s more into being bottom? That doesn’t exactly answer my question, maybe he just practiced through research. Honestly idk why I’m so curious about this, i tend to ask quite too much so yeah, I’ve always been like this.
And as for seme, does he have past experiences?
In ch.7 the toilet screen. Like i said, you can think however you see fit. I just think it make more sense for Brett to have at least some experience especially when he tried so hard to find someone fit his hardcore kink like Hayden. But i sure Hayden is his first alpha tho.
And for Hayden, he have boyfriend in the past and almost having sex together but his pheromone is too strong that make his ex shock and ended up at hospital. So he not go all the way. He can count as virgin.
Oh no I don’t think that the bottom has had NO experience, I just wonder if he had experience as a BOTTOM. If Hayden is his first alpha, that means he’s bottomed for the first time or something, but we dunno the answer clearly.
Yeah i mean bottom experience tho, like how he know he can only be satisfied with only Hayden. Why Hayden is so rare in Brett eye if he never even tried before. Like if he like being bottom only, even Beta can do it, but he know it have to be with alpha, and Hayden type especially to really satisfy him. Also in ch.8, his friend not even surprised when see he being bottom with Hayden. So i guess that not a new thing too.
Okay yeah that makes sense, I’ll assume he’s had experience.
Both Josh and Angel were being assholes to each other, especially their rude comments to each other out of anger. Key word: Anger.
I’m pretty sure Josh told Angel about being busy and will go out for dinner with him later. So him seeing Angel move on to another girl made him think Angel wasn’t serious. I don’t blame him for feeling upset, neither of them. But neither communicated enough to express that they both want to be in a serious relationship? Josh is a serious person and takes it slow because jumping fast into a relationship isn’t a wise choice.
Angel has only known him for what, a few months or less? Yikes. Yeah he’s pretty, Josh is cute, but both are dumb here and there a bit. Josh can’t be mad because they aren’t in a relationship together and Angel can’t be mad the other isn’t reciprocating or hanging with him, Josh isn’t obligated to hang with you and especially when he said he’s BUSY.
Also yeah I think Josh should’ve told Angel about his boss situation, but it’s not a big deal I think. I mean what’s Angel gonna do if told about the boss? The boss doesn’t allow this at work, just don’t do anything at work. And Angel said that he knows Josh is busy but feels neglected, well I can’t say much because Josh isn’t obligated to be there for him.
Again, Josh also can’t be mad that Angel moved onto another person. They aren’t together and Angel is used to jumping from one person to another, their lifestyles aren’t the same iirc.
Idk why Josh getting so much hate but it’s pretty obvious Angel didn’t communicate either. Just cause he’s the bottom doesn’t mean he gets a pass lmao. Vice versa.
Whole ass passage for what who's gonna read
Damn why so passive aggressive? And it’s not a single passage if that’s what you’re implying, it’s like a few paragraphs of an essay.
And this is for the dumb asses who act like only one is in the wrong and the other is all perfect and not wrong. That shit gets me heated, my bad if I offended you or anyone. Not trying to argue lmao.
People who actually like book reviews and want to talk to other readers...duh? Idk why you're trying to be sly with this person over something normal and expected, wth lol
Yes, thank you. Perfectly said.
Well said. I hope they will communicate more in the future tho they need to make things clear
Why does the Uke of 2nd Couple sleep with White hair? How did it lead to that? Does Uke like White hair?
Is there more than one ML? Based off the cover.
I think so, the kyungsoo dude would be one of it for sure. (The friend/love interest) of the MC
I've seen a comment, it's a quad-love story. The cover has 3 hand + MCs hand. Surely the one from left is the blond twink, the one with bandage probably would be the kyungsoo (spoiler - that dude is still alive based on the story) and the third love interest... IDK, maybe the hot dad or there would be another dude （/TДT)/
CH 17 or 18 just confirms my suspicions that Phi didn’t want to do sex work, it’s just that he was groomed into it at age 13. Even himself is confused about what he can do other than sex work, as if he can only do sex.
Also the part where the staff or someone called while Phi was on a vacation with Apollo, he told Phi: “You know how the owner is worried about you birds”, just screams grooming and manipulative nonsense. And Phi, feeling guilty, he goes back to paradise island.
But with the involvement of Apollo, he can’t get into the sex, because his heart doesn’t want it, and he also wants to be with Apollo who’s still recovering from his wife’s cheating and the divorce.
SO NO, Phi did not want to do this. No minor can consent to this. Although he’s an adult now, he was groomed into this industry. Very nasty of the adults around him. And he also never enjoyed the gangbang that Apollo witnessed, it was because Phi did it out of his jealousy involving Apollo and not because he wanted to.
Clearly Phi didn’t do sex because he likes sex.
I might be wrong (planning on re-reading this soon anyway), but Phi was selling his body for sex before he met the owner. When he got to the owner's estate, he naturally continued to do so. The scene where Phi gives the owner the cash he received for sleeping with one of the customers (when he was 13), is when he was told by the owner that until he reaches a certain age, there are things he can and cannot do: like having sex with customers. Since sex work is legal on the island, it makes sense for the owner to try and explain that to him so he can keep his business going. Notice how he didn't panic even though they're under investigation? He probably believed it happened that one time when Phi was a minor, but by the way Phi stressed out about it and by the words he used, it seems he might have done it a couple more times without the owner knowing.
Do tell me if I'm way off. It's just that that's how I remember the course of events.
I honestly haven’t analyzed the owner enough for me to come to a judgement. You seem like you read well, what do you think?
Based off your comment, I don’t think the owner is that bad as I thought at first.
I agree Phi was groomed, even if the owner was kind to him and the others he was only 13yo, he was a kid, the man was an adult, have money to offer him a good normal live but he choose to offer him a job as a prostitute! (⊙…⊙ )
After all those years now as a adult he started on his own free will, but he dosen't know other life at that point and have nowhere to go.
I think he actually enjoys sex like is a sport for him, it feels good, he just dosen't understand what is like to do it with someone you love and loves back.
There's a reason the 3rd rule exists
I won’t re read this till it’s done. I still feel icky knowing a 13 year old had sex with old ass men, yuck and sad at the same time. That’s why I believe he didn’t do sex work because he wanted to, he was out in this lifestyle, he didn’t get the childhood he deserved nor education, and believes sex is all he can give.
Yeah I was grossed out as well. It’s also a personal trauma so it doesn’t help, but the overall romantic aspect of the story has been so exquisite, it’s just one of my favorite yaois. Logically speaking, and by everything I’ve seen, it seems to be the author basically waited until Phi was of age to put him to sex work. Let’s not pretend he’s a saint, but I do understand why Phi cares so much about what he thinks. I personally want for his world to expand and to see that he can be good at something outside of selling his own body. He should only ever do that if he truly wants to. Forcing himself isn’t the wha to go. I’m glad his own body got in the way of him going through with the last two customers.
Agreed with everything you said, well said. Hopefully the relationship progresses as well and NO TRAGEDY, I did not wait years for updates for a tragic ending.
I can safely say this is one of my top favorite BLs.