Did the blondie kiss Uke or uke initiated the kiss while drunk? Cause ew. And then what happened? I’m at ch 47 and it’s not mentioned what happened after the kiss/taken advantage of scene
Someone said: “Cirrus is a type of cloud , and the name Skylar has the word “sky” in it.”
Now it makes more sense when I said that Skylar is Cirrus’s whole world. He’s the clouds with the sky.
Edit: think my second comment got cut off so
Link to my “discussion” cause slay: https://bato.to/comment/664b01f5deac22e890e08e22
IS SEO WRONG FOR NOT COMMUNICATING AS WELL and doing it without consent? Someone’s really hell bent on the idea that he isn’t and that Woo should basically be grateful. I mean yeah he did a good thing standing up for woo, but this isn’t the first time Seo has done stuff without partner approval. Woo clearly has expressed that he feels they are unequal/ or how he wished the other would have asked for consent/let him know at the very least
Someone told me: “ but really, none of those things are issues. you're trying very hard to sell an idea, and the truth is that it just isn't working (on me, at least). honestly? it's like you're just creating problems in your own head bc there are none in actuality (by any chance, are you a a Gemini?).
oh, and you wrote, "If Woo feels upset about this [...], who is anyone to say it’s not wrong when clearly the person finds it wrong?" like girl, please we're the readers. who else is going to decide whether or not characters are being shitheads, if not the readers (and I'm not saying Woo is being a shithead!)? funny how you think I can't say that Woo is wrong, but you can say Seo-An is. it doesn't work like that, babe.
in conclusion, (imo) Woo is wrong for not communicating his feelings and needs with Seo-An— and Seo-An is wrong but going through Woo's phone, and not for anything else relating to the issue of Woo's father. if you think otherwise, then that's your opinion and perception, and I disagree with it. you can't change my mind about this, just as much as I cannot change yours (nor do I want to).
anyways, if you truly think there's a problem in all of this, then that's your thought to mull over. have fun with it. but to me, you're making absolutely no sense, therefore I will no longer be entertaining this (you).
hope you have a real good day! x”
Why are readers saying the father is a pedo? It’s confirmed he’s the father, not someone who’s interested in children like that. But yeah the lighting yourself up in front of a kid was wrong.
I caught up to most of the chapters and Uke only did it one time with the bdsm show dudes, he didn’t “often” sleep with others. Why do some readers tell me he did it a lot? I don’t see him doing it with anyone else after that shit. Also I read that the woodsman dude isn’t a pedophile, Uke’s mother implied him being his biological father in volume 2 chapter 6, 5th manga panel. And chapter 4, vol 17, last panels CONFIRM that.
YUHHH I’m glad it went well and that it wasn’t where uke continuously slept around, it was just once and it was rape.
1. Any cheating? Betrayal?
2. Love triangle?
3. I heard uke has sex with others??? What chapters
Does uke or Seme sleep around? Thank you.
If these are things you are worried about then you might as well turn away now lol
So which ones are here? I’m asking those who would be willing to answer. It’s just a list of warnings before I read, I’ve read worse.
I mean considering it has rape, hardcore "bdsm" ((it can't even be considered that when the one on the receiving end actually wants to be killed)), it's got psychological trauma, rape, I'm not sure if it counts as cheating but the uke often runs away from the seme to have sex with others 'cause he's afraid of his own feelings, there's talk about a prominent memory for the uke where he thinks he was almost murdered by a pedophile who committed suicide in front of him so he's constantly asking others to kill him since he thinks he doesn't deserve to live.
There's not really a love triangle ((besides, ya'll get that term wrong all the time anyways when ya'll actually mean a love V)) but there's a guy who is obsessed with the uke and kidnaps him.
Should I continue??
As much as you’d like. Tbh I enjoy reading when I know spoilers, I like to be almost omniscient reader .
I read the first 6 chapters and yeah it’s pretty okay so far, there are def some interesting scenes. I mean as long as they didn’t commit to a relationship, it’s not cheating but being annoying/indecisive is all haha.
When you say often, is he still having sex w others in latest chapters or that ended in a specific volume? I’m not a big fan of indecisive people but I can tolerate it.
But I get why uke has a hard time. And are you talking about that glasses dude about kidnap part?
Um I caught up to most of the chapters and he only did it one time with the bdsm show dudes, he didn’t “often” sleep with others. I don’t see him doing it with anyone else after that shit. Also I read that the woodsman dude isn’t a pedophile, Uke’s mother implied him being his biological father in volume 2 chapter 6, 5th manga panel. And chapter 4, vol 17, last panels CONFIRM that.
YUHHH I’m glad it went well and that it wasn’t where uke continuously slept around, it was just once and it was rape.
This story isn’t for pea sized brains (like mine), even my head hurt literally trying to analyze and process and the info. Author did a great job, it’s hard for people to choose and that’s when you know it’s a good love triangle story unlike some BLs.
Through author’s story, I have fallen for them. I’m blushing every time a new chapter releases. I can’t even get turned on seeing TJ anymore or anyone except author’s exceptional writing.
Many said this all referring to chapter 44 and I agree: “Y’all need pay attention to what Ian said. Ian just realized that their sex isn't romantic but a coping mechanism for their trauma. It's a form of escapism from the reality they do not want to face, its a unhealthy emotional outlet. I'm glad he realized that and hope he starts a healthy way with TJ, like actual communication, if that's possible. But damn Joseph is a great observer, he just can tell and read ppl well even with his own problems happening behind scene.”
It’s like a a drug addiction for them both too, unhealthy and destroying yourself. Binge eating all the cookies and ice cream no matter how much you know too much is going to make you absurdly unhealthy, but you still want more.
If these relationships don't make progress, I don't think there will be a good male lead choice for Ian. With TJ it will be a destructive and toxic relationship if he’s endgame and they haven’t resolved any traumas/insecurity, and with Jo, the fascinating sense of novelty will wane if they have fights and arguments because of any insecurities. The power of love cannot magically solve all problems. Ian, Jo and TJ have to deal with their traumas and insecurities.
TJ sees Ian as a romantic partner and as Ian said maybe he also did love TJ in the past (there is, there was) but I think Ian is so done with anything related to the gang that inevitably TJ is also placed in the same category because as Ian also admitted in the past chapter TJ would always remind him of the past hence I think that for Ian this "Love" for TJ naturally thinned out and just stayed as a habit in the form of sexual attraction. But I’m sure he holds some lingering feelings still, but it’s more codependency too.
People also say Jo is kind and boring, but in chapter 45, he admits in monologue: “I’m not as kind as you think.” And he also thinks in that chapter, “I wonder if he’s (Ian) thinking about him (TJ) right now…”. SO YES JO IS AWARE THAT IAN POSSIBLY HOLDS Feelings still. Ian saying “there was” is a flashback from chapter 15 when Ian was saying he’s only been in love with one person in the past, referring to TJ. Jo realizes Ian never actually stopped loving that person or his feelings didn’t completely fade, though Ian himself isn’t aware of it.
Both TJ and Jo are superior in some aspects to the other. That’s just a fact and the cognitive dissonance it causes is meant to push the reader to think harder than surface level, to decide (or not decide) what to make with these relationships. Therefore it's completely reasonable why people root for different love interests, that's what the story is trying to achieve, but there is really no plausibled reason to attack someone with a different opinion to yours, whether you see it as wrong or problematic or whatever else.
As far as I understand it, he likes them both at the very least and he cannot commit to an exclusive relationship. It’s been so clear to me from the beginning that I really don’t expect anything else. Like I don’t think he’ll make a real choice until we’re at the last season at least.
2) People say Jo is boring just cause he has no tattoos or some shit but: When JO said “Don’t dismiss that consideration of his (TJ), it is Jo being considerate but not in a way you think. He definitely saying this to Ian, so Ian would respect TJ’s wish in not getting Ian involved and don’t want Ian to go looking for him, in a way this benefits Jo relationship with Ian. Hence why Jo says he's not that kind. Ngl I love that he did this. This makes him so much more interesting.
Read the author’s interview. Read that she’s into film noir, which shows in this, and has never been into “pleasant stories,” which I can grasp here as well. I’m lowkey intrigued since Jo just said to himself that he’s not as pure as Ian thinks he is: by telling Ian to respect TJ’s wishes, he’s lowkey hoping to keep them apart so he has a better chance with Ian.
Someone also stated this and I kinda agree, it’s hard to tell right now as the story is getting to that in maybe third season:
There's a difference between being IN love and just loving someone. I don't think he is IN love with him. They have a trauma bond, that is not genuine romantic love. Do I think at one point he COULD have been IN love with TJ, yes. Now? not so much... especially after everything hit the fan. Too many people are throwing around the word love when its more complex than that if you look at their history. It's pretty easy to "fall" for the guy who's your only "family" and looked out for you in a hectic environment. So many feelings can mimic "love" you just have to know the difference between them. He probably doesn't really understand it himself since Tj is the one he's been closest to, even if he is in denial about any feelings he has toward him now. I just know they're not as romantic as everyone thinks.
3) LAST ONE: Also didn’t Ian already vowed to TJ that he will go back to him and Joseph doesn't know that. Things will most likely get messy since Ian was not being honest.
That's what the author also said Ian was the worst out of all three in a (joking manner) because both TJ and Joseph are struggling because of him and he's a heartbreaker. She also said people being mad about Ian because they blindly babying their favourite tops, TJ and Joseph. They only love to see him being paired with them but don't try to understand the context of the story and the complex situation between the characters. She said there's no perfect characters in this story. Everyone is so imperfect as humanlike.
What caused Skylar to lose his feelings towards Chan-il? Or does he still have some? But if he does, then why confess to Cirrus who clearly likes him but he isn’t Skylar’s ideal type (author said his ideal type is Chan)
I hate seeing Cirrus anxious because Skylar seems distant and more happier around Chan-il, but it’s also because of his own toxic behavior. Both are teens so I can’t exactly be mad at them or hold a grudge.
MAYBE ITS JUST ME, but I feel like Skylar isn’t emotionally involved with Cirrus. They keep kissing and making up, but I feel that it’s still the same. And author said that the story will end soon, no fucking way, I want to see Skylar be more in love with Cirrus and see Cirrus feel loved for once in his life (Not one adult in his life chose him, the only one that did was the pedo ew.)
I can see why Cirrus gets anxious, but I don’t condone his behavior. I JUST WANT SKYLAR TO EXPLAIN THAT HE IS NOT THE SECOND CHOICE, I need panels where it shows more of Skylar’s POV and how he doesn’t really feel the same towards Chan-il. Or at least Skylar falling in love with Cirrus.
This shit is hurting me. Fuck me
“I will wait for you to fall in love with me,” — Cirrus 2024.
“I’ll do anything so don’t leave me, so I can go on living.” — Cirrus, in need of affection, 2024 (Insert crying tears because mangago said no emojis) DUDE Don’t BE A DOORMAT.
I’m sorry but pleas never confess to a mentally ill person who wants love if you won’t commit fully emotionally and hold lingering feelings for another.
It’s not clear if Skylar still holds those feelings but hopefully author explains cause ain’t no way the story ending without it being explained? I’ll knock on author’s door if I gotta.
PSH future me NAHHH Skylar doesn’t hold the same feelings towards Chan-il, he just blushed because he’s embarrassed, calm your insecure ass down. In chapter 99, look back, you see the way Skylar blushes at Cirrus? He’s head over heels for that sexy talker
In chapter 100, page 52–we can see that Skylar has those blush marks because he is embarrassed.
In chapter 100, page 60–we can see that the small blush lines form.
Then in page 61, we see Chan-il’s face dropping with water, usually authors do this to show what one looks like in another’s eye.
And in page 62, we see how the author dramatically shows Skylar with the red lines on his face. Why so dramatic? Is he blushing because he finds him beautiful/still has feelings lingering or because he’s embarrassed? But then in the panels after that, we see him looking down with the red lines with gloomy expression so I can’t tell.
But the embarrassment blush lines between page 52 and 62 are completely different.
But he did reject the offer. I think he was tempted to take the offer but because he has an insecure bf, he said no.
Am I taking this too seriously? But I just extremely hate it when someone confessed to date and holds lingering feelings so my insecure ass will wanna know sorry y’all.
BUT I don’t think Skylar ever LOVEd Chan-il because he saw that he looked like Minwoo, just infatuation but I hope those feelings are gone now…
Cirrus wants love and I want that for him too, Skylar is his first.
This is what I
Mean when I say I’m similar to Cirrus’s insecure ass.
I think even though Skylar feelings for Chan-il started as an infatuation for his resemblance to Minwoo, he might have actually liked him at some point. We saw it when Skylar and Cirrus went to the ferris wheel and Skylar cried.
Also in one of the autor's note it said skaylar first impression of Cirrus was that he was very pretty and everyone seems to like him, but he wasn't his type, or something like that. He found someone like Chan-il, easy going, nice and manly more attractive.
Remember Minwoo was "manly", rebellious and a jerk, and so was Skylar when they were together, a rebellious boy.
When Skylar blushed talking to Chan-il even though he has Cirrus now, it might be a memory of lingering feelings when he had a crush on him and hoped he looked his way, and now he was thinking of him and asked him out as friends, but now he dosen't feel the same as before. Maybe he felt guilty too because Cirrus blocked Chan-il number to ignore him and now he was going to reject him himself.
I FEEL like he still has lingering feeling and I hope that isn’t the case. From the looks of it, his blush was shown way too dramatically to be just “embarrassment”. And the way they showed and highlighted Chan’s appearance made me more suspicious.
I mean yes I’m sure Skylar liked Chan at some point but I feel like it was mostly infatuation cause he said Chan looked like Minwoo. But the nicer version of Minwoo.
But the “embarrassed” could also be it. It’s just that if he does have lingering feelings, I’m gonna feel so bad bruh cause why confess to someone who clearly likes you..while interested in another that is his ideal type?
Even though Cirrus needs serious help, I want him to be loved for once. I can see why he gets so anxious, everyone’s been picking another person over him in his life (ex. His father picked his mother over him and blamed him for her death etc.)
Also what caused Skylar to lose/fade his feelings? Cause Cirrus isn’t his type, so I don’t get it. There’s a lot of questions, I hope author answers them in later chapters and I really want to see Skylar be more emotionally involved with Cirrus, it feels like it’s all just physical and a trial relationship.
MAYBE ITS JUST ME, but I feel like Skylar isn’t emotionally involved with Cirrus. They keep kissing and making up, but I feel that it’s still the same.
It’s okay if Skylar used to like Chan at some point because who wouldn’t? But I hope not still, that’s gonna hurt me…
Also the author said story is ending soon.
Yeah nah I don’t think Skylar holds much feelings for Chan anymore cause chapter 99, he also blushed pretty similarly but seemed way hotter, towards Cirrus. I’ll stay in my peace world
I don't thing Slykar likes Chan-il as before, i don’t know how to word it.
For example i had a liked this boy, we were good friends, we lost contact and when i saw him again i was nervous because i used to like him but that was all, i still thought he was nice and we liked each other when we were younger but not anymore, it was just a nice memory.
Another friend also had a crush and when she finally moved on and had a boyfriend his crush looked her way and ask her on a date, she said yes because she wondered "what if" but at the end she said she didn’t like him anymore, and remembered how crazy she was for him.
Sorry for all the rambling.
I just think he dosen't like him anymore, but i also wonder how Skylar came to like Cirrus. For Cirrus is pretty obvious, but for Slykar there were small moments when he felt happy to be with Cirrus, and i think he was moved because he could be himself with him and asked him out just because Cirrus confesed first and wondered what it'd be like to go out with someone that liked him.
Last sentence, that’s what I also wonder. How did his feelings for Chan fade? Maybe it wasn’t as strong feeling as he thought
What chapter is the Christmas special? Cause what do you mean the author put threesome?? Yikes