Dumpling14's Topics (152)

Jingi said that because he knows the uncle would target Myeongil just to get back at him. And he also mentioned before that everyone who got involved with his uncle ended up dead, so if Myeongil gets dragged into any of that, there's a real chance he'll end up dead too.

No he meant he'll kill anyone connected to his uncle and Myeongil will only get in his way if he becomes emotionally involved with him. The death metaphor with all the worms is Jingi thinking Myeongil will be in danger (uncle might come for him) if he involves him in his revenge.

Oh so i’m just stupid then, thank god. Thanks for clarifying guys.

I take what i said about you jingi i’m sorry

*take back*

Nah you're good, he's still shit lol

In studies, breast milk accomodates for baby's needs. Like if the baby is dehydrated the milk becomes watery (theres an example of this shown through by the mother travelling away from her child and the milk adjusted itself through that assumption.

So no, it won't taste like strawberries at all, since its adjusted to the baby's nutrition.

Thats why the milk is only for the baby. Breastfeeding someone else changes the milk, which I appreciate that they mentioned it briefly. Still despite it being fictional, I think we should remember that breastmill should be strictly for the baby it'll consequently alter the nutrient needed.

While I do somewhat agree with your point that this is supposed to be traumatizing and focus more on the psychological aspect of things I feel like this story constantly constantly showing graphic depictions of rape kind of desensitizes the readers and makes them kind of expectant of it and as such it doesn't shock them anymore or make them feel anything really as they've gotten SO used to it.

I feel like if the purpose of this story was purely to make psychological kind of fucked up story it would do more to focus on showing the deterioration of jiwook rather than just GRAPHIC rape rape rape all the time. If you constantly have to show and don't tell it's not as good as a story as you think.

In my personal opinion as well I feel like while it's obviously ok to show rape in any forms of media trying to make it "justified" or "deserved" by making the victim a pos just minimises what a horrible and disgusting person you have to be to commit such an act.

I was confused too at first on why the hell juhyeon is doing all that and why so much rape but now when i see the spoilers i kinda get it. I can’t say the word “deserve” (cause deserve is really a strong word for me and no one deserves to be raped or killed or whatever) but.. i also can’t blame juhyeon for feeling this way. If it was another person jiwook would be killed right now but what juhyeon is doing right now is not just revenge but also a slow suffering method or “slow death” and i can see that juhyeon has all that build anger and sorrow in him. (Even that I couldn’t see that in earlier chapters but now i do) also we are not gonna forget that it’s not just juhyeon who suffered of jiwooks actions but it’s also juhyeons mother. I would go insane too if i was i juhyeons place.

Now to the rape part, i understand your point that it has too much rape and it all feels like its fetishised (and maybe it is since it also yaoi) but maybe that is the point? I may sound crazy now but what if the amount of rape you are seeing now is the same amount juhyeon got raped too when he was young? Also the word that juhyeon is saying to jiwook is also what jiwook used to tell him?( I might be wrong so all novel readers you can correct me if I’m wrong) but i only thinking about the title “reverse” what juhyeon is doing now is what jiwook is used to do to juhyeon.

Also about jiwook we can see that he changed, he is slightly losing weight, he is more pale, even his hair got long. So we actually can see that something is happening not just rape. If it was the old jiwook he would get angry and throw fists but now he is just obeying and actually got stockholm syndrome which is a normal reaction if someone is being locked up in a room that long and being both abused and humiliated

I do agree that some affects have been shown but to me the HUGE emphasis on constant rape even though that's what jiwook did in the past is a bit much.

I think for me it comes down to (for me at least) is what would be a more effective way of showing the brutaluty and cruelty on jiwook and getting the readers horrified and shocked without being borderline fetishistic. I do understand what your saying about revenge and the parallels of juhyeon doing what was done to him back to jiwook and looking more at the story I honestly do see that.

I just think overall while I wouldn't go as far as to say this is 'rapeslop' the story does go overboard with some scenes in a almost fetishistic way imo and just does some stuff for the sake of either 'wow look how brutal this is guys' or 'guys isn't this kind of hot?'.

but we can agree to disagree as I get some people will have different interpretations of scenes/actions.

He deserves to know. I am not sure if rape was involved in the past, but what is happening rn is also not justified since the person itself doesn't remember. He deserves to know and actually repent for his crime.

i would say both jiwook and juyeon are a victim and perpetrator. a victim can become a perpetrator and vise versa. present jiwook is a victim and juyeon is the perpetrator while young jiwook was the perpetrator and young juyeon was the victim.

does jiwook deserve all this torture even though he has amnesia so he didn't remember what he did? yes and no. i think he still deserves the consequence but not to this extent. juyeon already got his revenge but instead of stopping once he just take it to extreme. there's no justice for both sides.

also spoiler : jiwook got his memories back at the of the main story. before he got it himself, juyeon told him what actually happened in the past.

I like that ur not giving any context of what he did

oh well i thought op already know what he did

anyway spoiler :

back in middle school juyeon confessed his crush to jiwook in which jiwook proceed to manipulate juyeon and then he along with his friends gangraped juyeon. not only that, they also recorded the rape and sent the video to juyeon's mom after that his mom got so shocked that she's now in psych ward

But does that make them both “equal victims”? And if that, doesn’t that make juhyeon less of a victim compared to jiwook? Since he was going through more stuff than jiwook. (Especially the thing with his mom being in hospital)

idk about them being "equal victims" but i do know they're both a victim and perpetrator. anyway since this is fiction, if we compare their suffering then uhhh....i guess they both got it equally from each other. both of them ruined each other mental lol idk comparing which victim suffer more doesnt sit well with me. both are wrong and none of their actions are justified no matter which one of them suffered more than the other

i agree with your last point a lot lot lot

Okay, thank youu. For sharing thoughts with me.

hi im joining the conversation

Hello, yes you can do that

Yes i think he deserves to know too.

Ikr that Tired person is annoying asf and obviously has way too much time on their hands to be arguing in the comments over a manhwa they don’t even like. Like get two jobs or something XD Had to report and block tbh messing up my user experience

Thanks.

Super high rn and making waffles. Everyone gets a waffle.

Yeah i saw that long ass chain of arguing. I was just scrolling and scrolling. It never ends just wait, there’s coming another one soon after this ends.

Didn’t know you would actually answer lol, but you’re welcome.

Big shout out to Max, that’s baby right there