Jo having a dubcon moment won't change the fact tj is a coercive rapist. Its so funny seeing tj stans act like only Jo participated in the grey area while tj verbally told Ian no and made him go along forcing the idea Ian likes it even though Ian was obviously exhausted. Pick a struggle, logically by what yall say point to tj being a rapist too. I'll pick the lesser evil.
Jo stans don't seem active on here anymore, i see them more on tiktok, and tj stans have a habit of spamming esp now when tj "won". They care more about winning than reading thats why on the official site majority of the reviews being supported are the ones criticizing the work. Most valid takes are right and they don't like that. It honestly hilarious how everytime a joian says they know and accept jo grey area tj stans stay quiet because they can never acknowledge tj done much worse and make him out as a victim when he's an abuser.
whole story just turned into slopfest once fan aggressions started rising. authors wanted to keep both sides entertained and ultimately bullshitted the ending. i would appreciate it more if she gave SOME kind of build-up between tjian towards the end of the story??? then again, toxic fans caused a lot of neglect on the actual plot of the story. the story was doomed to end like this lol
Tj tattoo looks so wack bro, why does it look like what a bum would do to make up with his girl after an argument lol or looking like what deadbeat dad's do by getting name of their kids after walking out on them dy definitely from the UK because you always seem wankers do that shit there.
that corny ugly-ass tattoo was created with Microsoft Word btw LMFAOO https://x.com/i/status/2040112878313750860
I mean it was meant to be a corny tattoo and I think that was what Doyak was trying to convey. The point is he just wanted his sweethearts initials tattooed on his heart and shamelessly picked out one of the most common (ribbon) template to do so. Hence that dialogue between Ian and TJ calling it cheesy but Ian loving it anyways. Then Ian giving him a reward afterwords for it. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
It's always cheesy to get someone's name tattooed on. She could've made it more nicer and fun but didn't even use creativity when tj does have nicer tattoos. Dude couldn't even get Ian full name, at least his whole first name. Its embarrassing and not worth those 100 chapters. Tj and doyak could've done much better. Doyak just slap it on without much care just like this ending.
...right that's the point, it's a cheesy tattoo. she did it on purpose. that's what doyak wanted readers to understand as it helps add to the everyday interactions of tj and ian in their life together. it's not embarrassing at all but actually very sweet because we get to see how much in love they really are with each other. and all the corny stuff with it. 100 chapters worth the domestic bliss.
Also if you want to really focus on any of TJ's tattoos, it'd be the anchor on his right hand. One of Doyak's whole theme is 'home' and 'destination' and chapter 99 has TJ's hand angled with the anchor pointed towards Ian during their reunion. So it's quite the symbolic tattoo since the beginning because it finally pointed to his 'home' or 'destination' aka Ian, who also happens to be his only 'anchor' (source of strength and security etc) in life. ( ̄V ̄)╭
There so many inconsistencies and unanswered questions.
What was Ian checking with Jo?
What was the deal with teddy?
The fuck happen with Jamie?
No way that killing the top bosses rids of revenge.
Why did Ian say he forgive if tj told him all the things he did but then said he would hate himself for forgiving him?
What the fuck was the point of the detective, he was in S1, now in S3 but wasnt even given a part when itnwas focused on him.
There's probably much more I just I can't remember but really a shame and feel horrible to those who defended this story when it was just a cop-out story.
I think he wanted to check if he loved Jo (he did)
The deal with big teddy is killing “everyone” in K35, no ?
I want to know what happened to Jamie too
Because Ian knows he would forgive TJ too easily, and he doesn’t like that about him. He is also trying to avoid conflict. It’s a similar feeling to when you are jealous and don’t like the fact that you are jealous, I think ?
Maybe it shows he is not corrupted anymore ?
Kinda sad Yeonwu feels like the only way to feel alive is to be thrown around, I mean if you have a kink go for it, but it's obvious it developed after having nothing and beaten into debit. He's so very depressing. He just want to belongs somewhere. Also its kinda weird that people say we shouldn't feel bad for Yeonwu even if thats what he wants. Because let be real Yeonwu has shown that he was still uncomfortable in some situations.
They're trying so hard to make us not want care for a character well being. Also trying hard to villainize him to make us look bad too. Sorry but thats not gonna happen. Yeonwu will always be interesting and complex, regardless what happens. He been so mysterious and always making us theorize about him. Thats what you call a intriguing character
Letting others know that even if Yeonwu character changes and does desire Rosa more in the future. It still doesn't excuse or justify that what happen to him in this moment is sexual assault. We can still read and enjoy the plot of a story while acknowledging what happened without changing the complete narrative.
I have no opinion on the chapter but I do want to laugh at tj stans that got cocky last update. It aged like milk for them.
Not that jo stans didn’t do same (just way less in comparison) but again, it’s really just due to large amount of TJ stans so obviously it’s more of them, duh me. I don’t like either, I just hate one more especially with how they mostly like tj but shit on Ian, and try to self insert as tj’s lover. It’s a comedy at this point.
Exactly! Although both sides had their fair share of shitting on Ian for the sake of their preferred male lead and self insert purposes, I don’t think that the Jo stan virtue signalling and pettiness compares to the nasty superiority complex and spam of insults that TJ stans spread across platforms lmao
i don’t really care if people insult the characters. they’re all fictional so to me it’s just old man yelling at clouds. what i don’t get is people insulting the author or other readers for liking something especially when those same people clearly care a lot since they spend so much time obsessing over other people’s opinions. and as far as i know doyak has spoken up about people (jo stan) mischaracterizing the story about hero and villain and another time was when people were harassing her friend for publicly stanning tj. so i don’t really see them as the quieter part of the fandom.
To each their own, everyone has different interpretations. I read the story, not purely for the smut, and I do care about the characters especially when putting one male lead in a pedestal while putting down Ian, story wise. I do care if someone insults a character while worshipping a fucked one, story wise it should matter. Yes, it wouldn’t matter in general since it’s fiction, but stories are meant to evoke reactions.
Like I said, it’s a comedy at this point and I don’t bother with either fandom wars anymore. I still talk about it but not a lot.
I just dislike one male lead more, that’s all.
I may be a big TJ and some Jo hater, any male lead here actually, but if he somehow becomes end game, I am not going to freak out. I might be disappointed if the delivery is poor, but that’s it. I’ll move on and read my other stories.
I doubt Doyak would just: TJ confessed and Ian gave the cold shoulder, silent treatment for a few days, but they both end up together after TJ pursued him strongly this time. Jo is rejected and cast aside.
With everything that happened in a decade and a bit more, I really expect something more. Something that brings back to the first time they met, something that can override the misery they shared and gave, etc..
i really doubt that’s the direction doyak would take. that would be boring and she clearly hates boring, tropey writing. s3 has been so good because the narrative finally feels cohesive with the three main arcs actually have thematic throughlines (especially ian’s). so far her setups pay off and the emotional beats feel earned so i trust whatever she’s building toward.
what gets me is that ws isn’t even that dark. like sure there’s sexual assault and gang violence but none of the interactions between the main three can really be called rape (maybe except for that one dubious moment with jo). some of the fandom acts like the show is constantly crossing these extreme moral line but most of the central relationships are framed around emotional messiness rather than outright sexual violence. it feels like people project a much darker reading onto the text than what’s actually on screen which is funny considering how deliberate and character focused the writing has been.
Oh yeah no I read dark shit, that wasn’t my issue tbh lmao. Feel free to check my smut list, it’s full of SA so im no moral compass. If I like a story, but dislike male leads, all I can do is hope for the best for mc/usually bottom.
That’s one of the issue with jo stan, some act like jo is a green flag. I personally don’t like to label green or red unless I’m lazy.
"Yeonwu could push her away" yall are so fucking gross. Yeonwu been living in poverty for years and learn how to survive by listening instead of fighting back. Her fucking mother got him beaten for not having sex with her and yall think he can just push away when she the daughter of the house. Its called power imbalance. Get that through yall thick ass heads. You can enjoy the read but there nothing wrong with acknowledging whats happening to him.
Oml when they were at the campus he pushed her away when she kissed him slamming her into the ground. When he was drugged he walked away after the woman kissed him. When the gardener touched him he also pushed her away and told her to fuck off. He is simply not able to physically and emotionally push Rosa away 1. they know each other and she was probably the only one who treated him like a human being back in the orphanage. 2. He has a tatto of her name. 3. THIS MAN IS FORCED DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES OF BEING BEATEEEEEN TO Go for round two on the mother she basically BOUGHT him HE BASICALLY OWES HER BIG TIME. He had a hell of a big pile of debts which this RICH woman was able to make it go away. He simply can’t physically and emotionally say no to her because he is also a fuck up obsessed with her. While he is getting allegedly as yall say „SA‘ed“ HE IS LOOKING AT HER SWEATER „oh this a mans shirt.“ talking about her smell while he is having the worst time of his life according to yall. Please I beg u the only time he got sexually harassed was when she just showed her hand in his dick and the night he got drugged and she basically used him to give her oral sex which was the worst. This chapter isn’t rape it’s simply undefined con.
Say it louder please!!!!
These people are in real denial, it makes me wanna laugh!!! They can't digest the fact that this so called "innocent" ml is actually attracted to rosa..they keep portraying rosa as unhinged and calling every little thing sexual harassment, but forgetting that this guy actually has a thing for her since god knows when!!
Another point to be noted, Aside from all the things you mentioned, this same dude thought Rosa looked like a princess at the party when he was perfectly sober.... He's secretly down bad for Rosa but he's keeping it low-key cuz he ain't in a situation where be can drool over his sugar mommy's daughter... He also couldn't get close to her because she kept shutting him down with insults here and there....
When two morons says "exactly". It doesn't matter if Yeonwu deep down likes Rosa and questionably desires something. His rationally is verbally saying no and stop. Only ones in denial are the dumb brains like yall excusing to call it what it is. Rape. Don't come under my post for your rape apologist agenda. And rei keep your nasty ass mouth shut taking about how women can't be rapist.
NOBODY HERE IS DENYING THATS ITS RAPE DID U READ MY COMMENT WITH UR ASS? ITS JUST WHEN IT COMES TO ROSA HE IS JUST SIMPLY NOT CAPABLE TO SAY NO WITH HIS BODYYYYYYY HELLO? HE KNOWS ITS WRONG TO HAVE SEX WITH THE DAUGHTER OF HIS SUGAR MOMMY HE LEGIT SCARED SOMEONE MIGHT HEAR HE TELLS HER TO BE QUIET HIS HANDS REMAAAAAAAIN BEHIND HIM THE WHOLE TIME ROSA TELLS HIM TO CLEAN HER SHIRT SIMPLY LICKING HIS CUM AND HE GOES AND SUCKS ON HER TITS. Fucking hell it’s like some of u read my comment and half of what I say goes out of the window and yall concentrate to the part that doesn’t need to be concentrated on.
Its amazing how dumb fcks like you can talk big instead of doing a little bit research... You call basically every fucking thing rape nowadays and blur out the different level of offences.. women can't rape thats a given .. get out of your fairy cocoon and research a bit about all these offences before shading other people on comment section and acting like a twat... Plus nobody excused Rosa's behavior, we are just saying in this chapter it wasn't what your thick head making it out to be...
And you really think a drugged person has rationality??? Hahahahah the funniest shit i have heard... Dude's drugged over there and this dumb ass talking about rationality....
Just because you hate rosa, it won't make your innocent ml stop fucking her btw...live with that fact hahahaha
Im gonna guess most of yall don't have an understanding of what power imbalance is?
Also stop that bullshit about "if its BL" same shit applies. Why are yall trying so hard to cover up rape? What's also funny, since someone mention Jinx, few days before chapter 24 drop an idiot, similar to those defending Rosa sexual assault, defended Jinx rape and guess what the bl community did? Called them out and ratio them. So yes, im complaining of you all weird behavior in SA but I am gonna continue to read this story. Its weird how yall put blame on BL or who reads it when its both bad regrading SA leads




Bruh how did Jo have a better ending the the endgame couple lol now tj has to look over his shoulders constantly with Ian still subconsciously doing things that remind him of Jo. While Jo free like the most rare fucking majestic bird that he is. I don't hate epilogue because im glad Jo show up to tell us he's doing very well and thriving.
Exactly! You nailed it! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I really hope that’s the end of the story, no need for side stories.
If you think that then you're kinda slow.
TJ is literally shown to be wary of his surroundings because he's been living a gang life. Hence why he think it's was the same for Ian as well. Because Ian was wary and out of his depth when trying to live a normal life after leaving the gang at the start..
What Ian is doing with TJ is btw what millions of normal ppl are doing.
I swear ppl just purposely being obtuse now to push an agenda.