It’s a morally grey combo. One’s a shit, narcissistic guy who scams and steps all over people for a living, and gets dominated and his illusions shattered by being fucked to the point of mindbreak. The top’s completely fucked in the head, probably from his childhood, a delusional bastard who doesn’t know the difference between manipulation, pity, and love.
Loving it so far. I’m surprised this comment section is somewhat calm, nothing like the other comments for stories with similar themes. You get what you’re going to be served right from the get-go.
I read the codename anastasia novel a very long time before manhwa was announced. To be honest, I was so close to dropping it so many times, but I did end up finishing it (+side stories) because I was hooked by spoilers my friend gave me. Yes, there is rape, and there’s a lot of… generally unacceptable stuff. If you cannot handle this kind of behavior, please, i beg of you, to stop reading. There will be more of this type of stuff. If you’re going to continue reading despite that, then that’s great too! Zhenya may seem like the biggest black flag right now (and he is, don’t get me wrong), but I’m telling you that you will adapt (?not sure if this is the correct word) to it as you continue reading. It may leave a bad taste in your mouth as it did for me, but I think that codename anastasia (the novel, especially) is very well written. You might think that rape is a terrible plot device, and it most definitely is, but the story in my opinion is very well written. It is, in fact, one of my all time favorite BL novels. If you *can* handle reading this kind of plot, then by all means, please do not drop this unless you truly hate anything about it! This isn’t a plead for you to keep reading or spoilers for the novel, just informing you that codename anastasia is absolutely worth the read if you can get through the hurdles!
Rape isn’t necessary a bad plot device, but its how the rape is presented that matters.
You say zhenya is a black flag now, but the readers “ adapt” really just says that all the terrible things he does get downplayed and overlooked.
Are the readers meant to zhenya at the end of the story? Doesnt seem like it, which tells me all i need to know, because his character shouldn’t be redeemable.
Sorry, english isn’t my first language, so I wasn’t sure how to use the word. I don’t mean adapt and overlook the rape and sexual violence. I meant his deceptive personality, and how readers eventually come to get used it. I don’t believe that the author particularly made him likeable nor redeemable, even though he is supposed to be a male lead. He is a lot sweeter at the end of the novel, but i’d say that there is no distinct redemption narrative.
I just personally happened to enjoy the novel, and my message was mainly directed to people who are interested in reading ahead of the manhwa. I didn’t convey very well, I apologize very much!
You can read officially on ridibooks, but here’s a reddit link to some other sources for fan translations:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ManwhaSauce/s/xz40Y5PZRS
i suggest reading on scribd, which is where i read it, but it cannot be read offline.
My friend did an amazing job of getting me hooked without spoiling anything, which I am not great at, but I will say that Taekjoo gets revenge — a bunch of violence and explosions. Zhenya doesn’t die in the end, you’re correct, and i’d say i only stayed for Taekjoo. Reading it will feel like less of a romance, and more like a spy thriller with all the adrenaline and risk. It’s constantly kept me on edge as I read through it, throwing all kinds of plot twists where I least expect. It has dark themes, definitely. A lot of violence and action you’d expect from a classic spy movie, except it’s a toxic BL. A lot of sex, too. Some of it consensual, some of it dubiously consensual, and some if it clearly rape. I was totally hooked after my friend pulled out a few snippets, and I read it in two days.
my heart hurts so bad… seo-an trusts and loves woowon but shows it in all the wrong ways
It's not about Seo-an trusting and loving Woowon. He's being controlling, possessive, and selfish. He's treating Woowon like a pet who he can just pack up into a suitcase and take with him, someone who has no agency or other ties that could possibly be more important than his own desires. It's pretty damn gross.
I don’t disagree!! Please read what I was saying, he’s expressing his love badly! There’s a power imbalance and seo-an clearly doesn’t understand what a two-way street is and doesn’t know boundaries. If you’re trying to tell me that what they have is not love and just seo-an being manipulative, possessive, and selfish, then i’d disagree. Though his feelings are far from healthy, i’d argue that he’s just using his own means to protect woowon. I agree the thing with keeping woowon in the dark about him getting reassigned abroad is a great issue, too, and it’s clearly wrong for seo-an to assume that woowon would just come with him. i like this manhwa because it has very nuanced feelings involved, it sort of reminds me of my own home situation and i take a bit of comfort in it, so i sincerely hope that seo-an can redeem himself!!
why does this keep on going downhill NOOOOO i thought last chapter was bad, and now my heart has been shattered into pieces. Maybe if seo-an goes and beats up the dad I’ll forgive him for his past actions