Hota-chan's Topics (74)

Guess it's not what Horikoshi trying to do. Even his own son (Natsuo) saying that he wouldn't forgive Endeavor. It's just Horikoshi trying to make us understand about Endeavor's motive. It's not just white and black about Todoroki's family.
No one forgive Endeavor, but readers started to understand him a little. Forgiving and understanding is two different things. Let Horikoshi have his way before accusing him normalized violence against women and children.

I'm not talking about Horikoshi normalizing the violence, I'm talking about the readers of the manga and the comments I've read about Endeavor recently. But still, I'm going to point out that, while Endeavor's sons don't justify his dad, it seems like his wife did because of the flowers. I really hope to be wrong, but I will say it again, because is not a lie: violence against women is too normalized.

I have to agree with you. She was defending him. And that was upsetting and uncomfortable. She did what she did to her son because she couldn't take the similarities between children and parent. And know she comes and is like she is telling them to leave everything he did in the past. I wouldn't be surprise if the kids turn out messed up and became villains and worst... They choose a partner like their father. ┐(´д｀)┌

Yeah, he literally pushed her to an extend where she was mentally unstable and hut her son, and now the author put it like nothing happened, and all is forgiven because of a flower? I can't accept that. #－.－)

I agree with most of what you've said. But whining about how we all accept violence is asinine. He's an asshole yeah but has there been any actual evidence of him just beating them for the hell of it? He was too rough on his son during training and slapped his wife when she protested. He was wrong to hit her but a slap isn't that big a deal. There's not anyone here who thinks they deserved that treatment or believes that that's acceptable behavior IRL. So stop being a drama queen.

I really thought about your comment... Like a lot, so I will give it an answer because I think you deserve it. An I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. Sorry about mistakes or something, English is not my first language and maybe this will be a little long. Maybe you don't ever read it, but I'll do this anyway!

I pointed something real: violence against women is normalized. We see it all the time, and maybe for you is not a big deal, I don't know your live enviroment and if you're a man or a woman, and that can impact on the way you think about this matter and make you see it different. But the thing is that what I say is true. I'm a woman, so I can't let this past just like that, is a reality that we have to suffer, and on top of that I have a major in literature and because of that I am not able to read without being critic with the things I read. Even if I try! So, when I say this type of things, I don't do it to be a drama queen, how you pointed out, I do it with the pretension to generate debate and make readers think about this, about the matter, about what they read.

Liretaure, comcis and manga, all of them are a reflection of the life and you have to be critic about it! We have to use our brain on this things, it evolved this way for us to be able to do it. That's what I think.

So, I will keep saying it. The author portrayed a cruel reality about a man who abused his wife to the point of causing her a mental break, and injured one of his sons many times in order to make him stronger; and for what we read in today's chapter, he forgot about the rest of his children. If we were talking about a person, we would say "is a bad person"; well, he's a bad character, a despictable one. And I think is really low to just put him like a good guy now just because he gave flowers to his wife and now is fighting for a greater good. You don't have to be a genius to realize this arc is about Endeavor's reivindication.

And, as a reader, the question is simple: he deserves to be revindicated about what he did JUST because of that? I think the answer is no. That is not the way to revindicated, and that's why I pointed out violence against women is normalized. Because the way Hoshikori is taking this in his hands says: for a "greater good" we must forgive Endeavor. Now he gives flowers to his wife and for that he's a good boy.

I hope you see my point clearly now. If not, I don't have anymore to say. Also, as a last thing, I didn't talk bad about anyone, and didn't talk bad to anyone. I really think it was bad on your part to use insults. I believe we both are adults that can behave, don't you?

I appreciate your levelheadedness and as I already said I agree with you about endeavor. I don't like him at all, and I don't think he deserves forgiveness. What I take issue with is you shaming/warning us of your real world concerns when I don't think it was justified. Horikoshi is one man, and the few who are starting to root for endeavor are simply awed by his determination. This in no way should be used as an example to generalize society as being okay with domestic abuse. And I'm not an expert on endeavor and his family seeing as we've only had a few short scene's with them. Yes he somehow caused his wife to have a mental breakdown from a marriage she couldn't escape, but were never given any evidence that he physically hurt her other than that one scene I mentioned earlier were he slapped her. This was wrong but not that big of a deal. I can easily see bakugo punching someone at school. But I doubt you would condemn him and his reputation for life for just that. As for his treatment of todoroki, he was training him. He was wrong how he went about it, but there was a reason behind it. It wasn't just some mindless violence. My point is endeavor is scum, but there isn't to my knowledge any evidence that he was an actual physical abuser of his family. And a few people grudgingly admiring his willpower against an even greater evil terrorizing the city does not mean we accept domestic violence as a norm.

I actually like it quite a lot because the way that it’s written is raising a lot of flags, possibly death flags, that make it feel like his efforts to change aren’t going to lead to the outcome that he wants it to, like someone’s going to come and expose the fact that he was - really, still is - an abuser, and then lead to his fall from grace

so it’s going to suck a hell of a lot more for him when that does happen if he’s making an effort to be better now and being public about that

Oh, I haven't thought it like that. I felt like all of them are "forgiving him", just because now he feels sorry. We'll have to wait and see!

i always wanted to say that miro looks like a mario hahahhahha and he was really funny he acts like a eri :'D

Shit... Ikr..!!!
I hipe he gets his quirk back !

hope*