I think a lot of you who arent bothered by this are probably younger in your late teens or early twenties. When you get older, your perspective really changes. Im sure this story is catered to a younger audience so I get why people like it. I know when I was younger I read this type of thing and enjoyed it. But now for me its a bit yuck. There certainly isnt a problem with an age gap but there are some really big changes that happen between like 16 and 21. Even though its perfectly legal Id find it pretty gross at my age to date someone who was 18.
So yeah, i did not like this story. Id be interested to see how many people over the age of 25 were cool with it
I am quite cool with it I mean i don't think too much about the story. And I am 24 turning 25
I’m 25 and I’m cool with it. It’s not the age. I was raised that age gaps are okay as long as ur are an legal age u can date who ever you want. I have so many aunts and uncles that have husbands or wifes with age gap of 10 years or 12 years. That’s why my views is so different form other views. I like this Managa because There was consent. The adult waited until the kid graduated too. And the the kid is 18-20 (20 because I’m confuse on their actual age cuz he said he is 32 and the age gap is 12 years gap, if my math is correct the kid is 20 years old) but yeah we both just have different perspectives. I don’t judge couple irl that have a huge age gaps I have friends that their parents have an age gap. (10 years age gap mostly). So I get it why ppl don’t like this but no it’s not the age thing I think it depends on the culture or society you live in
I’m in my mid-30s, and I was perfectly fine with this story. In an earlier chapter, it says that he was 32, which makes him 12 years older, so base on the calculation, he’s 20.
Dating someone younger or older all depends on the maturity level of that person. Who am I to force what I believe on someone else? As you said, as long as they are not underage and, for me, not forced to do something against their will, then who they choose to date or love has nothing to do with me. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I don't think it's age relevant, more so cultural. My dad dated my mom when he was 26 and my mom was 18. Married 3 years later, and still together 40 years later. My example is not uncommon in Asia. Personally, I'm not into big age gap, but I also don't find it as wrong as many westerner made it out to be. People matured at different speed. Some of my friends expressed that men at their age group felt childish, so they yearned for someone way older than them.
For your reference, I'm 37.
I'm approaching 25 so maybe I'm still not experiencing that something yet to shift my perspective, but I'm not seeing how it's bad. Seijirou is 32 years old and Ryou is 20 in the beginning. Chapter 1 Page 29 shows Seijirou's age and he stated that Ryou is almost 12 years younger (Chapter 1 Page 26) which makes Ryou roughly 20 years old.
32 with 20 is actually not that bad. If Ryou was any younger than 20, that's when it gets iffy, but Ryou's at least 20 approaching 21. This age gap is 12 years which is a little wider than average since more people tend to stick to an age gap in the single digits, but 12 isn't that wide either.
I'm 26 and I'm perfectly fine with it. At first I was quite concern, but the uke have an adult mentality, he's quite mature, and he did not looks like a child. The uke knows what he wanted and he's mature enough to make those decision to date the seme. The seme, I was also concern by the fact that he knew the uke was underage. However, when they dated, the seme actually waited for the uke to be a legal adult. He's not a pedo cuz 16-18 years old does not look like a child anymore. Unless if he dated a freaking 11-12 years old, that would be a total pedophilia. And there's no grooming going on so I'm fine with this manga.
Also, when I was 19, I dated someone who was 18 years older than myself. I was treated with the utmost care, and he respected all my limits. It truly depends on the person and the maturity level of both parties.
Btw, the uke is 20. So get over it. He's an adult.
Actually, the matter about the age gap is personal preference. There are cultures that doesn't really look much into the age gap thing. In Asia, I think it's not much of an issue. I personally grew up in a place where it is normal in some way. And the issue would not be the age gap but the reason why the much younger individual went into a relationship with the older one. If the older one is rich, they'd say the younger is a gold digger. If the older is not rich, they'd say the younger has mommy/daddy issues. Lol. Also, just to be clear, we don't tolerate pedos.
Age gap is not an issue when both are consenting adults.
No he’s not? he’s probably barley 18
*Barely
I’m a bit confused too with everyone debating this but the translator restated that he’s 32 and that there’s a 12 year age gap (forgot chapter) making the younger one 20. People keep saying he’s 16/17/18 and I’m not sure where they are getting that from. ^^
Probably because in the second to last chapter it says that hes in high school and underage
Unfortunately, this part was a bit confusing because it's not consistent with the facts. The only way it works is if Ryou was 19 approaching 20 because the legal age for adulthood is 20. 19 is the closest age to match their 12 year age gap if Ryou isn't already 20. So at the end, Ryou's 20+.
26 here, slightly uncomfy with the age gap and situation but it is tolerable. I have no qualms abt stuff like this as long as there is respect and without any form of abuse.
If you forget that detail, this work is cute and wholesome. Both characters fit each other well.
thank you!! I completely agree, when I was younger I probably wouldn't have thought anything of it, but now that I'm older my perspective is completely different.
I just cant enjoy this. I think when i was younger I might have thought this was cute, but it's just creepy for me. I'm not as old as Hara and the thought of going after or developing feelings for a 15 year old is so wrong. I think this is the type of story I would go for when i was younger so im assuming thats the target demographic. As an adult age gap is cute but not when someone is a minor.
The but that couldnt be translated on page six just says "its a joke, you know"
Maybe more naturally itd be something like "im only joking"
True, but I’m sure they tried their best for everyone!
My friend told me it translated to that after I had posted it, at the time I didn't have a way to look up the kanji but I do for next chapter so it shouldn't happen again, sorry about that!
thank u for translating it!!
Im not worries about it! I just thought id comment it in case people were curious! You do a great job. I can read japanese ok, but reading translations is sooo much faster so im really appreciative of them
Damn, I almost threw up in the last few chapters from the emotional rollercoaster. I dont think Ive ever been so absorbed in a romance without ever seeing the couple really kiss. It wasnt even slightly suggestive and I was super invested in these two. I think im in the minority when i say i like how it ended, but it would be nice to see side stories
I agree, though I really needed that kiss in the end haha
But yeah, it was so beautifully drawn, their faces, expressions, eyes, all contributed to the tension. I've binge read it in one night, couldn't stop!
I will continue it read but this one is weird. I somehow feel like this one would be suuuper cute as shounen ai, but making it yaoi... feels a bit weird. Thats gonna be hard to get out of his feathers. Also, butthole or cloaca? Maybe he'll he be able to lay an egg even the though he's a male birdy
Is Rogi in a different group from the Tatsuyuki? And Tatsuyuki quit his succession and joIned Rogi's group? For what reason? Did i totally read this wrong?
From what I understand; Rogi was a Loan Shark and wasn’t part of any Group or Tatsuyuki‘s Group. When the whole fiasco ended, Tastuyuki’s group wanted to punish Rogi severely like death I believe. Instead, to save Rogi for the sake of his daughter, Tatsuyuki has Rogi join his Group. Tatsuyuki grows into his role as fourth Head of the Group.
Hope that helped~!
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I read this as it was coming out and it was great. Loved it. But i reread it just now all in one go and holy shit is it amazing. Misumi is smitten immediately and is trying to deny it for so long. I feel like the story so effectively conveys his love that I as the reader got butterflies in my stomach. I felt like i was falling in love alongside Misumi. Geez. Such a great read.
I don’t understand why everyone hates hyesung so much. He’s young, in a shitty situation he didn’t want to be in, and then got pregnant. That’s so scary! He and dojin hadn’t gotten along at all before the pregnancy, so dojin suddenly acting all nice and loving wouldn’t be comforting. I think we’re all just used to situations on bl where even after bad shit happens (like a ton of rape) as long as someone starts to have feelings then it’s all ok. In reality, it’s a lot harder to get over those bad feelings. Hyesung is trying to figure it out as best as he can. I’m sure he’ll get it eventually
Well it's true that he's young so he's somehow impulsive and I kind of understand how uneasy it might be to be pregnant with someone you're not close to and that person starts being chummy with you.. I tried to understand him but when he brought up the money thingy and using his child as a blackmailing material is something I can't really swallow.. Like seriously I know you're undergoing a lot of pressure but with the way he's acting like showing off his riches to his friend and to his friend advising him to abort the child I feel like my logic saying huh..
true! those giving this a thumbs down should try experiencing being raped and getting pregnant (even if ur a boy) and see how they feel about it. I don’t mind rape in bl, what I can’t stand is the hate for hye sung (╬￣皿￣)
This shit is so weird.
The first part of this is just straight up medical abuse kink. Nice. Totally understandable. It should have just stopped there or continued with that kind of story.
This romance plot makes no sense. At times it feels like the author wants to go back to their kink roots, but then they just have to bring the plot back in and the plot is soooooo weird! Is anyone even reading this for the plot? I have zero investment in either of their careers. And their relationship is NOT a relationship. I was mostly just laughing along reading it but i was stunned when the doctor discovers pyo eum drugged and being actively raped and responds by blindfolding him and just raping him some more. HUH? WHAT? EXCUSE ME? Maybe if this was some kind of mindbreak short kink fic, sure. Or if it was a psychological thriller, ok. This is neither of those. The actions in this story just do not match the genre at all.
Also side note but his dick is so big that the fisting hypothetical seemed inconsequential. Like dude youre already shoving a fire extinguisher up there constantly, i dont think fisting him is gonna make a dent.
Also blond jimmy fallon? Lol
Art is pretty nice though. I kinda want to see all plot go out the window and just stick to pure kink. I think thats the only to turn this around.
I havent read it in a billion years but i think its kiiiiind of trying to go for a viewfinder vibe, but its just not working.
I only read it to see that fire extinguisher dick