while rereading the final side chapter, i noticed Hwan has the baby holder (is that right?) on backwards. typically one puts it to have your baby on your chest but Hwan has it where Haon is on his back. i’m sure this is so that when Yoo-il is facing Hwan, he isn’t able to focus on their baby but still interesting to notice when you know how Hwan’s personality is like
It's coz he don't want to see the child's face lol
I think we're just overthinking it. What if he just put the baby holder like that because he was cooking? You know, what if the cooking oil suddenly splash onto the baby's face
He was cooking.
does anyone have the raws to this manhwa? i’m super impatient and need to know what’s happening
so this is just cyclic abuse, right? i cannot be the only one that sees it that way. the way these two got together was pretty much because Won was abused by family and his tutor. and then gets involved the emotionally distant brother of the kid that showed him kindness. enters a fuck buddies relationship with said dude that turns out to be obsessive and is ultimately manipulated by him [Won] to continue seeing Jinha. ends up being abused for 5 years by Jinseo. then meets Jinha again post Jinseo’s death. and so on and so forth. season 2 was just so… anticlimactic in the sense that they didn’t really talk about anything. this was just like 30~ chapters of backstory and the rest is back to keeping Won and Jinha isolated from the rest of the world without a healthy outlet to jump the hurtles of their relationship. Won ends up being an abuser in a sense as well in my opinion. Jinha being both the abused and abuser in the end too was just disappointing.
i have a small theory that byul is going to find out the nature behind his birth and it’ll cause- or have been caused by- the revelation of both dojin and byul’s secrecy of maintaining a relationship with hyesung’s mother.
we see that in the first chapter, hyesung mentions how he wouldn’t hold luna bc it would be unfair as he couldn’t hold byul after his birth. more like wouldn’t but i digress. a few chapters later, we see dojin say that byul’s reaction to luna is similar to how hyesung reacted to when he first met byul. obviously dojin doesn’t actually finish his phrase as that would cause confusion and byul notices in both instances how odd the cutoff or phrasing of their words are.
do we know how much dan owes jaekyung?
Probably not what you meant but it felt like you wanted to pay in his place
lmOaoao(￣∇￣")
LMAOOO i’m broke too so no way in hell. but yeah i was just asking bc my sister and i are wondering if he’s in the high thousands or low millions of dollars in debt
ch. 101 has been circulating around tiktok and the way people are going from “#1 skylar defender” to “i can’t defend him anymore” is crazy. was it okay for skylar to say what he said to cirrus? no. but cirrus isn’t innocent in this situation either. he was the one that deleted messages from chan-il on skylar’s phone (and block him, i think). and rather than talking to skylar upon seeing him with chan-il, he chucks a cup/can of a drink in anger. me personally, i would be fucking beyond angry with my partner if they did that out of their insecurity. granted i would also dump them on the spot for that.
i understand that cirrus is feeling insecure but to then ask to be for reassurance after doing what he did? yeah no. again it wasn’t okay for skylar to say that he was only dating him bc chan-il wouldn’t and to beat the shit out of him. skylar should’ve reigned his temper and talked to him to resolve this issue. but he isn’t good at and he was hurting so he wanted cirrus to feel hurt too.
they’re both to blame for being in this mess. they’re two teen boys with a lack of emotional maturity and fucked up personalities stemming from trauma. they both need therapy and time apart from each other to mature emotionally.
Cirrus is not a normal person. And you will say neither is Skylar. But who suggested they'd date? Cirrus confessed and was ready to keep things platonic but Skylar? why did he suggest they'd date if he can beat the shit out of someone he is in a relationship with, for verbally trying to get on his nerves and tick him? Skylar had no right. From what I saw cirrus didn't even defend himself probably thinking he deserved it. Sorry to say Skylar is TO be blamed. Their relationship didn't feel legit from the get go. It seemed like pity dating on Skyla'r part.
Op did say in the end that they both are to blame, we know that they are both are NOT mentally very stable. Cirrus and Skylar both have their set of unresolved issues from their individual traumatic past. And they both are triggering each other with the result of the issues. It was bound to happen, I am in no way justifying either of their actions. It was going to get ugly sooner or later. Skylar has anger management issues, trust issues and cirrus is insecure, has trust issues, fear of abandonment. It's easy to be deluded that you're fine when there's no one around to trigger your mental state. They are in a relationship now which will lead to these situations unfortunately bcz they both are very broken. The wounds they have will reopen and resurface and in the process they will hurt each other. They are kids with absolutely no one to guide them......I hope they learn how to communicate properly and try to realise and resolve their issues. I also don't think Skylar is pity dating cirrus, they genuinely care for each other.
i’m going to reiterate my point. skylar and cirrus are BOTH to blame. skylar for getting physically violent and falling for the taunts. cirrus for also getting physical bc when is it ever okay to throw a drink at your partner bc you’re jealous? and for going into skylar’s phone and deleting messages from chan-il.
as for skylar being the one to initiate the romantic aspect of their relationship? i can’t say why he did it IF his intentions were only out pity. but human beings are creatures that tend to hurt others with their words when they are also hurting. this still doesn’t make it okay for skylar to be a jackass and say he was only dating cirrus bc he couldn’t date chan-il.
like i said previously, they are both emotionally unstable, immature teenage boys. skylar has history of his violent temper and trauma regarding some other dude that for the life of me i cannot remember what he did right now. and cirrus is extremely codependent bc the adults in his life have either left him or abused him. they can’t have a healthy relationship bc they themselves aren’t okay.
I agree with most of what you said and highlighted the one thing i thought was giving a leeway out to skylar. Frankly I don't think they should be together at atleast not at this point of life.
“This isn’t us consoling each other, human to human. It’s more like two beasts licking each other’s wounds in a trance.” “Maybe the only act we’ve been able to master is the one that gives us the illusion that we can forget everything else in that moment.” Ian acknowledging that what he and TJ have is basically just trauma bonding them together and that’s why they go back to each other makes me hate him a little less for spacing out while hanging out with Jo.
this manga has no clear plot and keeps getting messier and messier bc there is now way they’re going to add the “lesbian friend that’s been in love with her friend” trope into this convoluted relationship. i honestly see no hope for anyone and this would all be done with had misaki gone through with divorcing yuki like he wanted from the beginning
My only consolation in all this is that Japan has outstanding infidelity laws. Whether there is a divorce or not, the victim has a right to sue for damages of the offending partner and the offending partners' partner(s).
It doesn't matter if it results in divorce or not. Further, this covers any form of infidelity during engagement or marriage.
And Japan, cheating is widely tolerated and even accepted before engagement end marriage. But, when it gets to the point of engagement or marriage, the tolerance and acceptance for that behavior is null.
If she did get divorced from him and did it on grounds of infidelity, she would get a lot of money out of her ex-husband and his partner.
i hate ian and tj. they truly are meant to be together. and not in a “they have so much chemistry” way, i mean in a “they’re both manipulative bastards that can’t get their shit together” way. ian has been saying he wants to leave his gang life behind but tj so much as comes near his vicinity and he folds. thats not something that someone, who wants to leave their past, would do. which i understand can be practically impossible bc once you’re in a gang, it becomes your whole life. but he needs to get a sturdier backbone bc the one he currently has is clearly not doing its job. and tj.. is tj. he’s a possessive asshole that blatantly disrespects ian’s wishes of being a “normal” person.
this is an extremely biased take as i’ve hated tj the moment he appeared and his influence over ian is really annoying atp. but im also going to keep reading knowing how much i hate them at the moment because i like to torture myself.
YES LITERALLY THIS!!! I’m so annoyed with TJ and his influence on ian, like we get it, mans is tatted up and is a gangster, but that doesn’t excuse his possessive maniac behavior. Man’s is toxic and ian clearly likes that. I’m so done with them, I had to literally skip this whole chapter because they’re just exhausting.
thank you! i feel as if the reasons why people have rooted for him is because he’s tatted up and they love the toxic behaviors he exhibits and the sexual chemistry he has with ian.
No I literally agree with you, this story practically makes me tear apart cus they frustrate me
jaekyung’s dad actually keeling over and dying kind of makes it funny. like i had to let out a burst of laughter (out of shock) when the panel of him foaming showed