She goes from from a child abused for seven years and having a mental breakdown at a touch to a bad ass adult with adult logic and reasoning ( inner thoughts) in a span of a week! And the dissonance between a child blabber and mature inner thoughts makes it look like she is pretending. I mean she is not aa reborn adult but an actual seven year old with severe menal and physical traumas! The author makes it feel like she just spend a bad weekend there(((
No sarcasm just curiousity: eople who really enjoy this... how old are you? In your teens? Twenties? thirties? I feel like maybe I am getting to old for this stuff(⊙…⊙ )
I'm 23 and have been reading manhwas,mangas and others since i was 15. There's never "too old" for anything, if you like something will you stop doing it for people who "thinks" It isn't "age appreciate"? No! Sucks to be them but never ever in my life I'd quit loving something because society excepts me to.
He ramed her all night and then has the audacity to claim "i was hurt"? He is so self-absorbed...
Man was drugged af he was as much a victim he had every right to feel frustrated, angry and upset by the whole thing. He’s only wanted to treat our heroin softly and to show her his best side and due to the drug he mistreated her and that’s something he’s always going to have to live with. He has every right to be just as upset.
You can whitewash him as much as you please but the fact stands that excessive and forceful sex for a prolonged periode of time is not just painful and tiring for a woman. It can lead to serious conciquences including inflamation, sepsis and death. And if the man is drugged and absolutely out of control at the time? It is practically a rape which could lead to illness or death. What exactly was he risking? Slight dehydration?
You should deffinitely come by our gynecology department before talking about his "grievences"
okay let’s talk about this, she should have died? What about him? Forget he’s already suffering from some kind of curse for a second. You know like everyone else knows drugs can have severe side effects so for you to say “slight dehydration “ is laughable. You go on to talk about “factual” things but clearly disregard the effect drugs can have on someone. He could have in fact died and you pretending not to know that is showing how narrow and shallow minded you are. Yes our heroin suffered herself but does that not mean they’re both victims to some unfortunate accident? Yes they are. Both are allowed to feel negatively about the whole thing because both are victims here. He was drugged, the drugs clearly messed with his magic and caused side effects, these side effects then went on to effecting the fl. BOTH of them, not just her. Stop trying to invalidate someone’s feelings because of some weird agenda you have. Maybe you should go to some psychology classes to better understand human emotions. Heck go back to school and learn about the side effects of drugs because clearly you was skipping class.
You are triggered or something? Were you raised with "patience is woman's best virtue" or something? You scream your head off to protect him and put him before her, who was actually at risk from both physical and magical sides.... The side effects of the drug? Do you know what those would be? Here you entered a world of pure speculations and are trying to pass them off as facts. And phychology? Go back to class yourself. He is a person with trauma who thinks he is important and others are not: she is taking a risk of dying every time she near him. Has he told her? Was she cared for enough to be informed? No. And all his "i can kill her" doesn't stop him. Real catch worth your undying loyalty.... ( ̄へ ̄)
I think you’re the one who’s triggered because someone argued with you with a valid point. Read what they said again, no one is protecting the ML, they clearly said BOTH ARE VICTIMS. You are the one protecting just the FL, and ignoring what the ML went through as well. You should adjust your perspective and look at the bigger picture, not just pointing fingers and putting blame on one person. You also clearly do not know how drugs work (assuming it was a dose more than it’s intended use, as implied when the FL said one drop is enough to make her past husband crazy). Potent drugs in high doses can do wonders with a person’s mind (or body). As the other person said, maybe you should take a psychology class, and additionally, a pharmacology class to complement that. The story is not perfect but what we are saying here is you have a one sided perspective, you blame one person and invalidate the others’ experience. And let me repeat because you clearly did not get the other person’s message. No one is protecting the ML, no one is saying the FL did not suffer. THEY ARE BOTH VICTIMS. They were both hurt in the process and it’s up to them (or I should say, the author), how to resolve that.
You do advocate bigger picture and all. Give medismissive and mocking advice (go to classes) to a person simply because I disagree with your "bigger picture" ? Learn some social manners why don't you?
Pharmachology ... Do you know the difference between injesting, ihailing and applying to the skin? He bathed in a solution of the drug he needed to drink. You say he was in danger of sideeffects? Do you know what absobtion rate is? Go study yourself before talking nonsence and calling it "a valid point".
And "they both hurt"... It is not true and you know it. In this situation he is keeping secrets from her and risking her life 24/7 without feeling the need to warn her. Yes, she asked to come with him bbut that doesn't making it right. Constant life treat vs theoretical sideeffects of one time? You seriously gonna put equals between the two?
Sure, that’s exactly the advice you gave someone earlier on though, I added another because it does contribute to the topic. Funny thing is, I actually had a class in social manners back in the day, but thanks for the suggestion anyway. And yes, I do know the difference. I’m in the pharma industry, maybe I spoke carelessly, sure. I see why the other person stopped the conversation, probably. We’re not even saying you’re wrong, we’re just telling you that maybe you should look at the other side of the coin as well. But you know what, you’re entitled to have an opinion so we’ll leave it at that. Have a great day or night ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
She is still an annoying girl with victim complex. Always relying on others to help her: if it was not for Asher family or her "boyfriend" she would have been dragged back home by the hair and would only whail how unfare it all is
She literally went and got her adoptive father, before she was called to the palace. She's the one who pushed each person in her old and new family to take important steps.
Really the Leroy family being there was just sweet, but the FL was already steadfast in not returning to her old family.
There are different types of strength, but that doesn't make said illustrations of it invalid or not valuable.
Don't make me laugh. All of them would have moved forward without help : they had both skills and ambitions. And her "important push" is just a couple of profunctory statements - like a those charlatans selling 'personal life changing courses' on instagrm. What has she done really? Besides emty talk?
P.S. "she ran to her adopted father" - exactly a definition of weak person hiding behind others and using others to achieve her goals. What would she have done if Ashers did not think to adopt her? Right: cried while being dragged home.
For me she is strong, after she was kicked out she stays strong even if at that time she was weak really weak cause of the life she had with her family....but once out she decides for herself what she need to do....and she hold heaf against her ex brothers and fiancee....even against Keena...just to be able to do that and not cower in a place and to not move is to be strong....after sure she can't do all she needs to do by herself and need to ask helps. But all comes from her decision not those of others....
I understand the desire to punish him but why would you blame the most brainwashed character in the novel and let everyone else off so easy? Like Killion, who also made her suffer a ton we let off with "it's not your fault it's the author's will"?
You may argue that Killion changed but he only changed because Edith oposed him and the author mostly ignored him. While Cliff was under full control and had only incoragement from Rizze?
You don't get this in the manga but in the novel you get that Cliff knew what Rizze was doing especially her wrong acts. She in fact was lying about being innocent these supposed coincidences Cliff pieced it together. Keep in mind Cliff is so brainwashed into loving her that he notices all the things she does, but still goes along with her. So Cliff in fact knows that she is behind all the events that took place from the time Edith even fell into the water on the ship. As Rizze was in fact talking to Cliff about the ship & had someone go to the ship. Cliff openly knew but didn't care.
Spoil below if you don't want to see don't go further.
In the end of the novel we see that he was truly obsessed like a stalker mindset with Rizze not so much mind control by Rizze or the system. Though he only see this when he finds true love and he realizes the difference.
Yeah I’m struggling to see him as a villain as well. He’s playing the role he was assigned to play. Never broke away from the home she had over his character. Everything you mentioned about Killion and Edith just forgiving him because he was brainwashed is also part of the reason why the main love story isn’t all that great to me, but that’s a different point.
By the second stage the restrictions were more than half removed he could've stopped reeze, even if he was "obsessed" catering to her wishes and harming his family was his full conscious choice. Just like how killlian chose Edith over reeze he could've found a middle ground of his responsibility and his obsession with her
Stype, insulting me for having a different opinion and then coweredly blocking me? Coward (︶︿︶)
And Is insulting someone your only argument? Even if you are a die hard fan there should be some brain left to understand your opinion is not the ultimate truth of this world, right?
For anyone curious this moron said that Owen thinking of Nix as a test subject at first was WORSE than if he had groomed Nux for a relationship ever since he was a minor. Yep they choose grooming a minor for sex over being being left to grow and die, eventually making it to adulthood and meeting up with Owen to have our story. They rather he was groomed.









It is so disgusting I nearly puked out of frustration! First he made her a social outcast and a subject of gossip and ridicule. When she got over that trauma he suddenly feels entitled to her time, devotion and love? Why should she be the one to understand, forgive and make him comfortable? After more than two years of neglect???
I don't find the princess's and ml's "regret" comical: looks more of an annoying baby tantrum to me. "Oh, we were joined at the hip all this time but we didn't mean it! Oh, boo-hoo poor us!".
None of the student councel is on fl's side. They are only worried for their buddy. And if he said "I am with the princess" they would keep ignoring her lonliness and suffering...