As much as Minyoung's action were bad, from his POV, the way his mind works, it was right. I think it was also right for him to help Cheol by telling his father the truth and letting him face his demons. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE APOLOGISED IMMEDIATELY, then they should have talked it out so that Cheol never tries to go back and even let Cheol study abroad, away from his abusive family.
WTF, yeah in the make-bieleave world of Minyoung's mind, sure he thinks he is justified. But anyone can bieleave they are doing the best for someone but CONSENT is the key to anything being right.
Im sorry but "letting" him face his demons?? More like locking him in a room with them. You can't just make decisions for someone else and then apoligise after the fact. Cheol is clearly dependant on Minyoung becuase of his trauma. Situation is so messed up T T
I agree, but it still was the push cheol needed, he was 21 and still being beaten, after the very much traumatic moment of his father learning the truth, he actually distanced himself from them, so yeah, very much needed I don't agree with how minyoung just upped and left him, that was the perfect moment for cheol to actually learn to break from his father's grasp and actually be at least Also I acknowledge that minyoung is a red flag, I just think the action was what was needed and the only right thing he did
He didn't fully get out of his father's grasp since he still tried to live like a "normal person" as per his father's standards and also get him money Reasons I believe it was right 1. Cheol got out of the abusive household 2. Cheol learned to rely on his uncle a little bit Reasons it would have worked if the Minyoung was mentally stable and a green flag 1. They would have addressed the trauma head on and even seek counselling, further breaking the grip cheol;s father has on him 2. Since his uncle viewed him as a son, he would be ready to help them in anyway, especially financially like scholarships or even some allowance money or a job 3. Cheol would eventually get to chase his passion, since he would probably still take a hiatus from school, with a positive environment he would go back and complete his course or actually look for something he has passion for. 4. Cheol would finally learn to accept himself as a gay man and would actually stop avoiding all his problems.
He didn't fully get out of his father's grasp since he still tried to live like a "normal person" as per his father's standards and also get him moneyReasons I believe it was right 1. Cheol got out of the abusi... Cap
As someone who has come through all the stages of getting out of an abusive relationship: You can't get someone to help themselves if they can't change their worldview and realise that someone is abusive/bad and you don't deserve that shit. The start of the healing journeu ocurs from that that shit. Piling on more trauma and unilaterally making the decision for them means the stary of the healing wash pushed down the line as he was dealing with supressed trauma and basically grieving losing someone close to him (which could happen in a normal situatuon as the trust is broken when you F*ING OUT SOMEONE FROM THE CLOSET. TF.
As someone who has come through all the stages of getting out of an abusive relationship: You can't get someone to help themselves if they can't change their worldview and realise that someone is abusive/bad an... Scarletfox
You have no idea what could come from a situation like that basically. If you don't know the mindset of someone in an abusive relationship, you don't know how they will react if yet more trauma is dumped on them. Sorry if you have good intentions but its a little triggering. Also 21 is still young, and often people in abisive relationships need opotunitu and distance in order to break out of old mindsets and feel safe to enough to start processing trauma. I think given the laxk of empathy Minyoung exhibits it seems to me his motive was inherantly selfish. There are a million other better ways to try and help someone out of that situation other then out them. If you are gay, would you stay lovers with someone if they intentionally outed you without having to have a proper chat with you or anything??? Keeping in mind the relationship with Minyoung (a sociopath) and someone with trauma is provably not gonna end well... as the author has pointed out.... damn i serously got baited into writing this damn long parahraph when im dyslexic lol(￣∇￣")
You have no idea what could come from a situation like that basically. If you don't know the mindset of someone in an abusive relationship, you don't know how they will react if yet more trauma is dumped on the... Scarletfox
sorry for causing you to write with dyslexia and it's true that I actually am speaking from a privileged point. Thanks, I was wrong
As someone who has come through all the stages of getting out of an abusive relationship: You can't get someone to help themselves if they can't change their worldview and realise that someone is abusive/bad an... Scarletfox
sorry for causing you to write with dyslexia and it's true that I actually am speaking from a privileged point. Thanks, I was wrong Cap
Lol, no dw. Sorry i kinda pressured you into changing your mind :/. I went autamatic deffensive mode cos its the internet. If you wanna discus more we can and ill be chill ٩(●'◡'●)
Lol, no dw. Sorry i kinda pressured you into changing your mind :/. I went autamatic deffensive mode cos its the internet. If you wanna discus more we can and ill be chill ٩(●'◡'●) Scarletfox
You didn't pressure me, I like getting feedback and criticism, and I was in the wrong. After reading your take, I put myself in Cheol's shoes and realised I would be on the brink of commiting suicide, so thanks for correcting me I would love to discuss more or any other recs
As much as Minyoung's action were bad, from his POV, the way his mind works, it was right. I think it was also right for him to help Cheol by telling his father the truth and letting him face his demons. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE APOLOGISED IMMEDIATELY, then they should have talked it out so that Cheol never tries to go back and even let Cheol study abroad, away from his abusive family.
WTF, yeah in the make-bieleave world of Minyoung's mind, sure he thinks he is justified. But anyone can bieleave they are doing the best for someone but CONSENT is the key to anything being right.
Im sorry but "letting" him face his demons?? More like locking him in a room with them. You can't just make decisions for someone else and then apoligise after the fact. Cheol is clearly dependant on Minyoung becuase of his trauma. Situation is so messed up T T
I agree, but it still was the push cheol needed, he was 21 and still being beaten, after the very much traumatic moment of his father learning the truth, he actually distanced himself from them, so yeah, very much needed
I don't agree with how minyoung just upped and left him, that was the perfect moment for cheol to actually learn to break from his father's grasp and actually be at least
Also I acknowledge that minyoung is a red flag, I just think the action was what was needed and the only right thing he did
He didn't fully get out of his father's grasp since he still tried to live like a "normal person" as per his father's standards and also get him money
Reasons I believe it was right
1. Cheol got out of the abusive household
2. Cheol learned to rely on his uncle a little bit
Reasons it would have worked if the Minyoung was mentally stable and a green flag
1. They would have addressed the trauma head on and even seek counselling, further breaking the grip cheol;s father has on him
2. Since his uncle viewed him as a son, he would be ready to help them in anyway, especially financially like scholarships or even some allowance money or a job
3. Cheol would eventually get to chase his passion, since he would probably still take a hiatus from school, with a positive environment he would go back and complete his course or actually look for something he has passion for.
4. Cheol would finally learn to accept himself as a gay man and would actually stop avoiding all his problems.
As someone who has come through all the stages of getting out of an abusive relationship: You can't get someone to help themselves if they can't change their worldview and realise that someone is abusive/bad and you don't deserve that shit. The start of the healing journeu ocurs from that that shit. Piling on more trauma and unilaterally making the decision for them means the stary of the healing wash pushed down the line as he was dealing with supressed trauma and basically grieving losing someone close to him (which could happen in a normal situatuon as the trust is broken when you F*ING OUT SOMEONE FROM THE CLOSET. TF.
You have no idea what could come from a situation like that basically. If you don't know the mindset of someone in an abusive relationship, you don't know how they will react if yet more trauma is dumped on them. Sorry if you have good intentions but its a little triggering. Also 21 is still young, and often people in abisive relationships need opotunitu and distance in order to break out of old mindsets and feel safe to enough to start processing trauma. I think given the laxk of empathy Minyoung exhibits it seems to me his motive was inherantly selfish. There are a million other better ways to try and help someone out of that situation other then out them. If you are gay, would you stay lovers with someone if they intentionally outed you without having to have a proper chat with you or anything??? Keeping in mind the relationship with Minyoung (a sociopath) and someone with trauma is provably not gonna end well... as the author has pointed out.... damn i serously got baited into writing this damn long parahraph when im dyslexic lol(￣∇￣")
sorry for causing you to write with dyslexia and it's true that I actually am speaking from a privileged point. Thanks, I was wrong
Glad you made it out
Lol, no dw. Sorry i kinda pressured you into changing your mind :/. I went autamatic deffensive mode cos its the internet. If you wanna discus more we can and ill be chill ٩(●'◡'●)
You didn't pressure me, I like getting feedback and criticism, and I was in the wrong. After reading your take, I put myself in Cheol's shoes and realised I would be on the brink of commiting suicide, so thanks for correcting me
I would love to discuss more or any other recs