Finally, Twink x Twink. They are so rare to find in BL; for some reason people keep complaining about twinks in BL and make it their whole personality how they hate twinks because of "heteronormativity" when, in fact, the men that BL can't get rid of are the big masculine men. But whatever, I'm not surprised; feminine men always get shit. Anyway, I'm getting off topic. I like the stories where ML is being a loser and lives miserably but has a turnaround to fix their life, it's weirdly comforting You know, stories like those give some hope, and it feels like you are not alone. I have some hope for this story.
and in reality, there's no buff or masculine gay. Feminine gays are the reality. I love being feminine!
Thank you for saying that! I've been going crazy in fujo spaces these last couple of years, because why do feminine gay men get so much hate? They are literally the backbone of the community! It's not more "woke" to like buff men, it's the opposite in fact, but they act like they are so progressive
While I have seen some gay frat bros here and there, and to be honest, I don't believe in stereotypes, but feminine gay men are a huge part of the gay community, and people trying to erase them or remove them from media is just super shitty, I can't lie. I love femininity too, and I don't understand why it's so hated or why it's shamed.
Right? I literally don't understand why it's quirky to love two masculine men together when they love men anyway. BLs with two masculine men It's literally evened out with BLs that have twinks, and I literally don't understand when it's enough for these people. At this rate, they just want to erase twinks from BL and have one type of body, and it is men with steroids, literally forcing body standards; it's literally not woke.
Exactly! It's not enough for them to have their manhwa and manga - they want to erase any other type! Every time I'm reading something with a pretty bottom there are people in the comments saying how bad it is that he is a twink and even saying that they look like children (which they most certainly don't - they look like real life men that don't hit the gym every day that's all!). People commenting how they are "not real men" too, which is a whole new layer of homophobia
OMG, you are so right about the children's part. Remember, if you are a twink, you are either a 6-year-old child or a woman lol.
Bro someone jumped me just now for commenting the same thing omg
Yes!!!’
This person just kept going on and on
Asking me to provide them evidence that they were feminine. I did not want to engage so i simply said i think so, if you dont thats fine. But they kept INSISTING
like wtf is wrong with a man being feminine??? Let them be once
He is literally more fem-leaning than masc-leaning; he is slim, wears makeup, has long hair, and uses mascara to make his eyelashes longer. What does he need more of? Wear eyelashes and dresses to finally see him as a feminine? While MC is just being short, he wears normal clothes; he wears no makeup, but still that person says nothing about him. Weird, I think that person is just in denial that they like feminine men, and they don't know.
Fr bro… like its ok to like feminine man
So the ML killed/zombified a guy while that guy's 3-4-year-old son was behind the door, and the ML decided to tie that guy by the neck on that damn door, the door that kid was behind. The kid is now without a father. Holy shit, the ML is a psychopath. It's beyond me how anyone can root for this guy to get a happy ending. And the more messed-up thing is if the author swept this under a rug and made the kid grow with the ML, That would be fucking disgusting. I'm fine with psychology stuff, but the author needs to treat it right instead of making it kids' play and romanticizing it.
Well, I wish I could say this in the comments instead of topics, but whatever. wasted premise, Instead of the author letting their characters' relationship develop, they resorted to sexual assault instead. Like, are BL fans THAT horny that they can't read the first 10 chapters without sex, so the author needs to think of a way for the characters to do sex in the first 10 chapters? And most of the time they are raping each other because it doesn't make sense why one side would consent to it when he never thought that he would be with a man anyway because, God forbid we have two sides who had experience with men. And for people who are celebrating pegging, just read Josei; there's plenty of pegging representation there, I don't know why people are clapping for this, but I get it, The mangago tagging system sucks; they wouldn't let people find stuff easier. Also, the "bisexuality representation is so rare in BL" comment is not true, Maybe it was true two years ago, but I'm seeing plenty of it these days, so I don't know what you are talking about. I really liked the first 5 chapters, but after the hostess club thing? It's all gone downhill for me. It's really interesting to see people barely talk about the story or premise but instead magnify the pegging and bisexuality representation, making it seem like it's a big deal and never done before when it's done many, many times before.
lol this. their relationship is built off a lot of coersion, I feel bad for Taesung because he was trying to get away from his exploitative boss only to be stuck with Jinu. There is so much better bi representation and without all the rape too
Well, now I feel bad for the prime minister. Why do authors give sad backstories to the villains? Whhhhhhhhhhhy? It just makes me feel bad for them. Anyway, these last two chapters just show the author can go back to their old art style, but they chose not to do so. I'm not a kind af person that complains about characters being twinkified because the more twinks for me in BL, the better, but I just find it interesting. I really thought the art changes because the art changed naturally for the authors, and they can't help it.
Wait, is the long black-haired person a guy or a girl? The translation keeps flip-floping; they keep calling them a girl, then a guy, He/she like, "What?????????? and their looks don't help either; sometimes they look like a guy and sometimes like a girl.
I thought Riley was a guy but now I’m also confused
Riley's definitely a guy that looks quite androgynous because of the flashback it's just that the translation is kinda shitty on their pronouns
as I thought. Thanks for answering. While I'm grateful for the translation, I just wish at least they get characters' pronouns right.
i was under the impression riley was an androgynous guy who got mistaken as a girl by everyone but the people who know him personally
The problem even his father called him "my favorite daughter" or something. I was confused as to why the father called him that to begin with. Maybe this was translated by AI, or something, and the AI was confused about the gender
oh yeah i forgot that...
i initiallt thought riley was a girl too but then there were so many contradictions... yeah it was probably translated by ai sigh
People here complaining about the BL having a plot is wild lol. I mean, how dare a BL have a plot when all we have to see are characters smooching and smashing, aka 70% of the BLs that already exist? I mean, if I want plot, I will consume straight works, queer media that is not sexual and plot-heavy? Pfft, yeah, right, show me dicks. Queer people having fun is not in my book. God forbid we tell other people BL is not actually bad and there are BLs that actually have heavy plots rather than prove people right by complaining about BLs having plots.
Anyway, beside the comments giving me brain damage, I don't understand how people expect the ML character to change overnight. I think the author still making him have casual flings even after starting dating the MC was realistic and reasonable for them. Making him try to better himself gradually and not have forced character development overnight was a wise choice. I love the MC. I like the ML and MC relationship; they are a funny duo. The only thing that I didn't like is MC being happy about the ML being jealous; bro, I would be pissed if I were you. Besides that, I loved most of the plots; the megane guy being the killer really surprised me. Hats off to the author for pulling that one off, most of the time, I'm good at guessing killers. The only criticism I have for this manhwa is that I think the author fucked themselves on the sex part in the middle of the murder scene. I think if they didn't do that, more people would have taken the manhwa more seriously. Anyway, I'm giving this 5 stars because I think 8.8 is waaaaay low by Mangago standards.
So glad you pointed this out, I actually enjoyed the murder mystery aspect of the series a lot as well as both the characters relationship.
I made a post regarding ML’s ‘playboy’ behavior and it’s not even bad as comments made it to be. This is coming from someone who hates borderline cheating and cheating. https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/22209238/
Can people stop comparing stories that have straight characters turning bi with gay characters turning liking the opposite sex and saying, "But BL has this, so it's fine if we get it in straight stories"? It's not the same thing. Straight people tell us all the time, "We just didn't find the right opposite-sex person." Stories like these just force this narrative. Just make them bi lean more into guys, and maybe he'll like FL. It's not that hard; you don't need to make them 100% gay and then turn them into loving the FL. Also, in my eyes, the people who keep wishing for that kind of storyline just want to fantasize about turning gay men into liking them.
For now the manga doesn't seem to have a romance tag, but the ML will just get fetishized left and right. Also, I would love people to stop tagging straight Josei/straight seinen into the yaoi tag; at this rate it's just getting annoying.
shes not the love interest dw this is a BL but from the perspective of aoi with mebuki just letting him freeload
I hope so; the manga update doesn't have the yaoi tag but doesn't have the romance tag either. I think the idea really is interesting if it didn't turn into romance. We need more manga that have FL and ML just friends and love each other in a platonic way. It's really sad to see people in the comments just want it romantic instead. My comment was more critical of those comments than the manga.
It's cute. But are you telling me the ML remembered the guy's username and him having earrings just by watching him once, while he said he didn't even enjoy the stream? huh? It would have made more sense if the author had made him bi or gay and he just happened to like his streams, but I don't know why authors avoid this kind of plot like a plague. It's always because "he just happened to stumble on it once." "This is not the first time an author is guilty of that.