Shirousagi's Topics (793)

this isnt even CNC what are you talking about bruv

"Do whatever you want" and basically offering himself up whenever / not reacting negatively at all to being sleep molested is cnc or at the very least dubcon even if it wasn't explicitly stated

he literally had a sad face and buried his face into the pillow, even the mc noticed his oof behavior why can’t you?

this shi is something else i js can’t label it

Trying to reference something like I'm stupid but missing the point is crazy. He wasn't sad bc of the dubcon sex, he was sad bc of the comment that reminded him of what they were. Literally right before that comment when he mentioned not being able to keep his hands off or whatever, he was happy and blushing about it, it was literally the comment that reminded him that they were sex buddies that made him sad after. The way he said that after was in a sad tone, sure, but before that and since they started, it has been mostly dubious consent at best for the entirety of the relationship and they have both enjoyed it

doesn’t matter he hopped onto someone who was sleeping and then continued to sa him those are the facts

Jaeyi said he was just going to run a bit, then asked and Ideum told him to keep it in, and to continue basically. Thats when Jaeyi thrusted fully and fucked. Dubious at best. I agree with you

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that discussions is meant when they are awake. THE CONSENT IS MEANT TO BE GIVEN IN SANE MIND. waking up to someone assaulting him and then telling him to keep going is CNC? i feel like i lose a neuron everytime someone tries to redefine terms that exist irl

Somnophilia is a thing and also considered part of cnc, if you want to label this particular instance something else, okay, but focusing on semantics over the fact that he DID NOT MIND BEING MOLESTED? LOL?? And even told him to keep going is a choice.

even for somnophilia its supposed to be discussed when they already awake not chosen spontaneously. "oh i'm being assaulted but turns out i dont mind it because this is my partner anyway" this only makes sense cuz its fiction

also, his choice came later. its already not non consensual if he gives consent. before that ml had already touched him and that does count as assault? which he wasn't aware of? he had no prior knowledge of it? him later giving consent doesn't negate what ml had done before he woke up?

i could suck you off rn.

Lmfaooo okay but did the seme give consent to Luke's voyeurism to begin with? He was also sexually harassed. And it turns out both of these people are freaks that are okay with each other doing these kinds of things which is why I mentioned CNC. LIKE I SAID, if you want to get caught up in semantics I'm not going to sit here and argue with you bc you're fully missing what the actual point of my comments were but I think y'all should have stopped reading from ch.1 if fictional sexual assault is something that turns you away

i would still read it. you dont need to blatantly slap CNC on it just to make it look valid. even jinx has audience but they dont say it was CNC cuz kim dan agreed to sell himself

Jinx is nothing like this, dan felt awful and guilty and weird about all of it but was desperate for money but both partners in this are literally active participants and just as interested and willing

Seriously I’m confused on how ppl are saying “oh we’re going the abusive route” have yall forgotten how he was in the beginning ???

How he was the whole time including the last 10 chapters!!! He literally calls anything he says annoying and thinks about how he just wants him to shut up and stop complaining every two seconds and literally snuck around while he did everything because he knew how much it would be hated which is so toxic

ANDDD in the beginning when he’d go to yeomins place, he would only go for sex and would even force himself on yeomin even though yeomin would tell him to stop or slow down. He has always been toxic.

hes so fricking cute ong

I can't blame him it feels good

Some couples give each other permission to do this in real life. Perhaps some authors just assume it's normal in all relationships, or that readers will understand that there's permission beforehand. But definitely, it's something that should be discussed between the couple before it happens.

Definitely! However, it really seems that he didn't mind / was happy with it in the story so I don't get why people are really upset with it..especially bc everyone is cheering on woori who forced himself on mc when mc was visibly upset and confused

right lol double standards

ikrrr they just want to shit on ml cuz they like woori better

I feel like the point of this was to say that /was/ no way he could have loved him in the past. And if they got the chance to try again without the sol/luna social confines, it might be better, sweeter, or purer.

Yeah but they never even developed a deep relationship either..I think my issue is that they played it up like it was going to be a super tragic backstory (which on paper of course it was awful) but we never got to feel that emotional aspect/attachment that makes it believable that they'd have such a strong magnetism to each other now