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The comments have gotten me confused. Is this actual, intentional BL, as in the author meant to write BL and all the subtext is deliberate and indicative even if not explicit or it is one of the stories that have gotten miscategorized as BL because people are reading too much into a friendship just because it is the focus of the story?

This needs a warning or a tag for incest. Disgusting!

The seme is repulsive as hell. Sure, the uke is a stupid, thoughtless, unintentionally manipulative little ass but at least he is a respectable, loyal, devoted son and brother. Granted he is a pitiful attention seeker with little common sense and forethought who doesn't know to stay in his limits and it's cringe, but I guess that's how horny young people behave; intrusive, callous, entitled and disrespectful of interpersonal social norms and other people's boundaries. But, the seme is a worthless, ungrateful bitch who deserved to be disowned, perhaps should have never had a family in the first place. There exist far too many bastards like that IRL, fuckers who take family for granted, think of them as sorry, duty bound suckers who are only useful as long as they pamper them and humour their every tantrum and will sell out their own parents for the sake of some cheap fling. These selfish, unfilial assholes misuse the natural unconditional loyalty and love that their family hold for them and abuse the heck out of that god-gifted security. This isn't cute, this is a mark of a disgusting, unethical and highly dysfunctional person.

Around 12-13 chapters in. I'm dropping this trash because the bigotry against adoption is fucking disturbing. And the one person who does speak up does so only to say that it's because he doesn't have a girlfriend. Fuck all of them. Adoption isn't a second choice. It should be the first choice for people with resources. The seme character would have been otherwise an admirable character if not for the fatal defect that he didn't bother to defend his child against the bastard old man. As for uke, dude is just a creep. Chinese manhwas are often deeply problematic, significantly more frequently than the other two. While the source cultures for those aren't necessarily models of progressive values either, but atleast, the artists try to do their part in their own way.

The uke fucker doesn't deserve family, doesn't deserve a brother. Who in their right mind after gravely injuring their brother would be able to push that to the back of their mind to obsess over a boyfriend? But yaoi logic. Everyone else is normal, responsible and forms same attachments except for the main characters who actually are caricatures who move as if programmed to stop caring about anyone else the moment they find a boytoy.

Why is this MC so unlikeable? What a little bitch! They're making him rise by pulling other people down in nefarious ways and they expect us to cheer for him? If that's what we're supposed to root for, wouldn't the antagonist from the first arc, Junhyeok, I think, have made a better protagonist? Atleast he came with a more sympathetic backstory for his manipulative behaviour unlike some near 30 year old who comes from wealth and has powerful family connection in the industry who couldn't make it as an idol, regresses and uses the knowledge he has from previous life to screw over teenagers for no good reason. Idol mangas are similar to sports manga as in they are brilliant at getting you invested in the characters and pulling at your heart strings like any good story but at the same time they are so down-to-earth, heartwarming, wholesome that you can't help but care for nearly the whole cast as if they were actual people. I don't know what went wrong with this one. Trying too hard to please the God MC crowd or veered a little too far into shoujo territory, whatever it was, it was very hard for me to get comfortable with this story at any point.

I dislike the recent trope of OP MC works as well but very rarely I do come across a couple of bearable ones. But, I hate the regressor and transmigrated ones with a passion. They just feel so pointless. There's no conflict, there's nothing at stake and there's no character to develop because the character is just a audience stand-in who is not a real person in the story but a third-party overseer who always has the benefit of hindsight.

OP MC works that don't have a regressor/transmigrated MC are still annoying because they're nothing but Mary Sue stories where every moment is happening because of Deux ex machina, unlike normal stories where Deux ex machina only interferes at a few critical moments. But, regressor/transmigrator ones are unbearable because they are the same kinds of hollow pretentiousness that is self-insert fanfiction and religious myths.

What's the point in reading about how your MC is the greatest thing to ever grace our world, how they're always perfect, how they are invincible and infallible, they always make the optimal choices, and how everyone will love them and the ones who don't have been programmed to act as pokemon episode villains so that your MC has something to do while you pull up a dialog box telling us how much of a victim they are and no one in the story has more burden than your dear MC , but being the once in a lifetime scholar, philosopher, statesman, warrior, scientist, and humanitarian that they are, they are able to sort out those people that don't like them by the end of the episode? When it comes to regressor/transmigrators there is also the final nail in the coffin, where you're essentially breaking the fourth wall by making it that everything is happening exactly how the MC desires simply because they're essentially in on it.

If I wanted to read this kind of insipid, frivolous stories where no amount of suspension of disbelief is going to allow one to take it seriously and feel invested in the characters or the plot, I'd read the Bible, the Ramayana or something like that. In fact, I'd have a more rewarding time if I went and read one of those "I did this awesome thing and everyone clapped" posts on the internet or go listen to a kid's chuunibyou fantasies. There's probably more tension, logic, humor and catharsis to be found there than in these huge 200 chapters comics that have had so much time and effort gone into them. So much creative potential, so many great ideas, all wasted just to keep an immature, impatient low attention span audience happy with rapid, consistent doses of instant gratification.

Only a decade or so ago, these kinds of plots would have been soundly mocked by the mainstream manga/anime community. There was a time when these were solely confined to the harem/romance/wish-fulfillment genres. But, these even worse mutations of Kirito are everywhere now and the audiences are lapping them up with barely a comment calling out the obviously weak storytelling.

I can ignore age gap when it exists only in the name. Where the characters act so out of character for their given character background they're given that the age gap and the resulting power gap doesn't manifest at all. But, not here. The characters are realistically depicted. But, that also means that the age gap and the power gap becomes real.

The older actor is significantly more mature than the younger one. He is also significantly more accomplished. He is clearly a mentor figure to a younger person who looks up to him and significantly more child-like, in a very real sense, compared to himself. While 24 and 31 are not far apart enough to raise eyebrows in every situation, this is definitely a situation where it would be concerning. Because the effective age gap is a lot larger because of additional power gap and hierarchial gap.

It would be really gross for the older actor to encourage and misuse his young colleague confusing respect and gratitude as sexual interest. The responsible and the moral thing for the older, wiser person to do is to stop the boy's confusion as soon as he realises it and help him see wisdom and to not soil the mentor-student relationship. This kind of a character dynamic would be better served in a shounen. The older character is giving a much older sibling vibes. Romance stories should not be written around these kinds of dynamics. A good shorthand for what kind of dynamics should not be sexualized is if at any moment you feel that an inter-character dynamic can be likened to a familial dynamic in anyway, that's your sign to stop writing a romance centred on these characters and go back to the drawing board. Acquaintances energy. Green. Friends energy. Green. Family energy. Big flashing Red flag.

So, only one chapter in, and I am wondering. Is the MC just James Charles of the "I like forcing myself on unwilling people and people who can't consent and believe in conversion therapy for straight people" fame transmigrated into manhua world?

Huh..what, where, how! How did they go from a nice, casual friendlly chat at the bar between two acquaintances to sexual tension and f***ing, all within the flip of a page! It's hilarious how abrupt that was. It almost felt like I was suddenly switched to a completely different story. That was funny.