Maybe i misread past scenes, but seongmin's motivation is difficult for me to wrap my head around. Does he genuinely not see yuwon as a friend? Or is he saying he /doesn't/ consider yuwon a friend to "cover up" wanting to sleep with him just so dohun doesn't slime him out? But he clearly doesn't care what dohun thinks. And at the same time he's kind of asking for permission to cuck dohun—if only in a goading/teasing/"you can't please him therefore i will" way. So like, what's up? What's with the lack of subtlety all of a sudden? /Does/ seongmin even want to sleep with yuwon? It feels like a redundant question, but at this point, i'm questioning his presence in the story altogether. He feels like three different characters rolled into one and it has nothing to do with yuwon's unreliable narration. Beyond the wonderful art, I'm a bit iffy on this chapter and what purpose it serves in building yuwon's world as one devoid of real connection.
i def see where youre coming from and i think it may be clearer when official translations come out… do know this though, seongmin is deathly afraid of yuwon finding out about his true feelings (from raws), so do what you will with that information
Cool, that's good to know. My main frustration while writing this is the reader is somehow supposed to operate under the fact that seongmin schemed for over a period of 2 years to deliberately isolate yuwon without ever once tapping that. No wonder dohun is the seme here bro you are useless. But i guess he's like, the schemer who yearns.
sorry wait.. im not following. i dont think seongmin ever deliberately isolated yuwon from his coworkers, he just simply acted in self interest (didnt put himself in a disadvantageous position by not standing up for yuwon when the coworkers were talking behind his back) and this was witnessed by dohun who used this to prove to himself that seongmin was two-faced and not worth of yuwons attention
I believe seongmin liked the fact that yuwon was already in isolated position at work so yuwon would rely on him more because he was his only friend at work plus it benefited seongmin that yuwon had no one he simply used it to his advantage to stay close but nonetheless, he friendzoned himself definitely still a two faced bitch because how are you gonna socialize with the other co workers and never include yuwon
really tickled by the fact that the most advanced math kwon jiwook can muster up in times of distress is elementary school geometry formulas. i'm actually very proud of him for remembering how to calculate the volume of a cylinder. some of you are even learning alongside him
I've seen lots of polarizing opinions on this manga in various different himejoshi spaces; it seems one either loves HDWR or hates it. I feel a little like I've missed something crucial, because I think it's Just Okay. It's not a bad manga by any means. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's an exploration of "realistic" relationships (by whatever standard you want to measure those), because melodrama still plays a big part in most of the major arcs. It's compelling, but, yk... dramatic. A raw, heavy emotion blankets the atmosphere, and yet it's not bleak or oppressive. The characters make sound, albeit frustrating, decisions while navigating their tentative relationships with one another, and they develop in meaningful directions that make for an engaging plot. With a loveable ensemble like this one, you'll find yourself relating to each woman quite a bit. I'm partial to Miwa and Tamaki. Their arc was probably my favourite because its culmination was exactly what I expected from two people with vastly different ways of giving and receiving love. Tamaki's simmering frustration for being unable to express herself to Miwa, to connect with her in a way that felt meaningful to Tamaki without performing the superficial act of sex, and eventually lashing out because of her fundamental misunderstanding of Miwa's motivations for their relationship—all of it was beautifully done. Neither of their needs were met, and they both suffered for it. Probably a highlight of the story for me.
The answer the title asks—How Do We Relationship?—is given indirectly: however you're able to, in spite of your and your partner's flaws. It's almost so perfectly imperfect that it becomes an unintentional parody of what a real life relationship is. There is no standard for realistic relationships in fiction, only that many choose to label a romance that features conflict, miscommunication, or even ends in a breakup as "realistic" because those things happen in real life. Fine, I guess, but that's not a strength of this manga. Because of HDWR's minimal reliance on external conflict, it must convince the reader to connect with these characters and their experiences within this setting, not shill you an after-image of reality. It depicts the lesbian experience in a believable way, but for some reason, that believablity doesn't extend to some of the dynamics—simply because I struggled to resonate. I wish more people sold the relatablity aspect before the "realism". Semantics, but whatever.
It took me months to actually finish. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood to read, but there were parts where the story dragged its feet and I just couldn't get myself to care in the slightest, even with all my love for the characters involved. The visuals, though sleek and expressive, were consistent and almost... safe, for a manga of this nature. Personally wish there'd been more bold visual choices (a stand out being Miwa and Tamaki's final sex scene). I'm probably nitpicking by this point, but I was a little underwhelmed, so it can't be blamed. If all you hear are raving reviews, I'd suggest managing your expectations a bit. A very solid yuri, all things said.
I respect that but you just didnt get it ig
soap opera levels of bullshit in this manga but i read it for the friction. wdym you want to be her mom... mhm.. yeah.... let's hang onto that train of thought. not sure why anybody would look for healthy relationships or communication here, lol
this should show yall not to jump to conclusions when it comes to ongoing manhwa lol. i understand making predictions that end up being wrong, and entertaining these theories is all in good fun—but some of you look like idiots accepting them as fact when it is very clear that the big picture remains obscure to the reader. give the author room to write what they need to write. that being said, *i* personally believe seongmin remains suspicious af and I've thought so since last year. the fact that he's actively standing by and even joining in on their coworkers gossiping about yuwon tells me his intentions are less than noble. people oscillating from "seongmin is an evil rapist" to "oh no, my bad, he's not, it's the weirdos on twitter who made me think that!" when 80% of them haven't even read the chapter themselves is hilarious.
I HATE when girls fight. I HATE IT I HATE I HATE IT. Ladies you BOTH are beautiful, and life is too short to argue about dumb shit! Please just kiss and make up........now feel each others boobs ok now lick each others pussies...yeah now rub them together...yeah....
i only await the day rosa buys a strap and also starts harassing — sorry, engaging in intimate acts with female subs. to restore the balance of nature.
You Are My World does not deserve some of you motherfuckers as fans lol. i vote for more toxicity on suah's part, in hopes it will erase the absurd notion that he was EVER a "green flag." writing fanfiction in your head and then having the nerve to feel mislead or cheated out of a "fluffy" manhwa... idk what neurons in your brains misfired to come to these conclusions, but feel free to stop reading the manhwa and ruining the fun for everyone else. preach elsewhere.
The7 cant even appreciate anything anymore
You’re so real bruh
thanks for saying it, can't they just touch grass and stop dissing both seme and uke. The trope is right where the creator wanted it, what's wrong w it gosh
fr fr with all the whining and bitching there has been lately I hope this manhwa turns even more toxic
Lmfao right
Like bitch Ima obv still read this regardless of whomever. Eating popcorn atp
"More toxicity" and its just straight up rape just say it if y'all can't handle opinions so you get mad when people call out the problematic rapist
yes, thank you for saying it for me. i'm glad your brain functions. suah is not a "problematic" rapist, he's a fictional character who functions under a set of rules unique to his fictional world. character analysis is important when reading; crazy, i know. he's a traumatized individual, and stemming from this trauma is a vicious possessiveness. can we call the fictional act of scenting someone allegorical, and a form of rape? yes. does it make heaps and loads of sense for suah, a *fictional character* who serves a narrative purpose, to cum inside juhyeok without prior consent, because of his controlling and jealous nature? yes. now please ask yourself why someone would want more of these kinds of acts from suah. because they fall in line with exactly who his character is presented as to us, the reader, who is hopefully able to come to sound conclusions regarding the characters in this story. the reader who sees it as out-of-character and shoe-horned for suah to be toxic — as you say, a "problematic rapist" who needs to be "called out" — is the one who has not been paying attention. yeah, i want more "straight up rape" if it filters the fuck out of lobotomites like you.
This is not about him acting out of character this is about the author portraying a rapist whose actions are then forgiven cuz he has some childhood trauma literally implying that his actions were justified and therefore you should sympathize with him. You're all free to express your opinion and say whatever you want about him but then maybe don't tell others to shut up if they want to call it out and get off the comments section if you don't like seeing what others have to say. We can't all agree on something but it should be understandable that people are tired of seeing rape and abuse normalised so much in bl so obviously they're gonna complain and talk about it
If your mood is ruined cuz people are calling romanticised rape in fiction disgusting (which it is) then that is your problem
"in fiction" you almost have the answer there, if are so immature that you can't differentiate between fiction and real life then that's also your problem.
Fiction doesn't get a magical no-critique pass
if this is what you come up with after reading 21 chapters of this story, then i feel justified in finding your comments banal. giving him a sad backstory doesn't lessen the weight of his actions. you're the one who can choose whether or not to sympathize with suah based on how he was treated in his childhood. i don't need him to personally redeem himself to me, and i don't give a fuck if he's a rapist. that is my personal opinion that i am expressing. yaoi doesn't "normalize rape and abuse" because unless you fulfill niche conditions, a manhwa is incapable of reforming your morals. it's a source of entertainment and escape, and if someone chooses to portray a rapist with a sob story being forgiven with no consequences, it shouldn't have an effect on my ability to distinguish right from wrong.
i don't think you're illiterate for disliking rape in yaoi. i just think you're illiterate because your argument is framed in a way that implies i am okay with rapists and abusers outside of a manhwa, simply for liking a character within a manhwa. you can "call out" people romanticizing rape and start witch hunts all you want, but please don't misunderstand my original point. i'm calling some fans hypocrites when they act like the toxic aspects of suah's character were never there to begin with.
sure it's okay to critique but this isn't the first time a fiction has problematic tropes, problematic fiction has ALWAYS existed, you are my world doesn't have anything new covered. Again criticism is fine but y'all are lowkey don't way too much. It's almost like people here are reading problematic omegaverse fiction for the first time while is definitely not true.
Yeah no shit Sherlock. The problem is the TikTok hive mind, self–righteous policing brain rot where y’all just have to have everyone else agree with you
You just said you don't care if he's a rapist, thats not separating fiction from reality, thats you telling me that within THIS story, sexual violence is meaningless to you as a moral event. I'm not against the existence of a rapist character, what I'm calling out is the narrative framing that is literally asking us to move past or forget about his actions because he's "hot" or "sad".
I never said you personally endorse irl rape, I said the STORY romanticizes it. You're allowed to like a villain or a rapist in a story but don't pretend the narrative didn't forgive him with a sob story, its giving denial
"Always existed" is not an argument, it doesn't make critique invalid and people calling it out isn't doing too much, its just engaging with media
it's not like i ever thought of jinx as high-class literature, but this chapter is unintentionally one of the funniest things mingwa has ever put out. i very honestly didn't think we'd resort to the most melodramatic plot development that could've occured. it was just not in the books for me to assume the Big Bad Guy jaekyung would duke it out with would hire a hit on kim dan — hitman being his target's weird, creepy, former colleague. i mean, we had to get rid of him somehow hahahahaha
i'm proud of joo jaekyung. he's begun to use his face to actually emote instead of looking slightly backed up at all times. this is the part of the yaoi where the seme gets an uke-injury-induced power-up and wins the match. we learned this in seme school.
don't take this as hate lolol i enjoy jinx. i dedicate 15 minutes from three days of every month to read these chapters; i wouldn't if i disliked it. just felt the need to lighten the mood.
so like what are u implying, is that a good or a bad thing
“We learned this is seme school” lmaooo
Yeah ig something dramatic like dan being stabbed has to happen for jaekyung to break off character LOOLOLL I LOVE IT
i'm saying that this is the single most cliche thing to ever happen, and it's par for the course considering what manhwa we are reading
Mark your calendars people